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Wow, Canada is destroying Sweden in the final game, 5-0 after 2 periods. Brady Martin with 2 goals. Jack Ivankovic is working on his 2nd straight shutout. Jackson Smith has a goal as well, playing well in the final game.
 
Honestly it looked shoulder to shoulder on the replay. I don't think it was particularly dirty.
It was dirty; it may not have been a head contact, but the Slovak player is not playing the puck - the kid is not expecting it. Absolutely, a penalty.
 
Whoops. That was a nasty one though

It sure was - and there was some real panic in him as soon as he realized what happened.

Scary!

Staying on draft track:
We've barely mentioned the younger Eklund in the past week or so, but for my liking, he's every bit as good as his older brother, and likely a better goalscorer.
 
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Honestly it looked shoulder to shoulder on the replay. I don't think it was particularly dirty.

I agree.

Just a tad bit late. And it didn't help that the Slovakian player had his head twisted in the other direction.

Added to the devastation the SVK player was subjected to.
 
By the way, while watching the U18s, Sweden & Canada are full of excellent prospects for the 2025 draft, not surprising they both made it to the U18 Finals. Sweden has the top 3 scorers and the top 2 goal scorers. Filip Ekberg is having a monster U18s with 10 goals and 8 assists in 6 games so far (broke a Swedish record). Ivar Stenberg has 8 goals, 5 assists and 13 points, also in 6 games. And Sasha Boumedianne, a defenseman, has 1 goal and 13 assists for 14 points in 6 games.

The Canadians have 4 of the top 10 point scorers (including Brady Martin). The Americans were led by forwards Will Moore and LJ Mooney who each had 11 points.

Stenberg has been doing that as an underager. And Björck is actually the underager who everyone was most looking forward to seeing at this tourney.

But Canada also has a few really nice looking 2026 players as well.

It's shaping up to be a real doozy of a draft.

I think Berchild and Casey Mutryn will be hot topics among Americans at the 26 draft.
 
It was dirty; it may not have been a head contact, but the Slovak player is not playing the puck - the kid is not expecting it. Absolutely, a penalty.
He had just played the puck. Like Chapin says, it was just a tad late in real time. Dirty would imply intentional, but it was just unfortunate timing.

 
In the last 25 years of the draft -

Summary Table by Draft Position (%):

Pick #BustNHL PlayerTop 6/Top 4Top LineHOFSuccess RateToo Early
1st4%0%12%28%52%80%4%
2nd4%8%16%28%32%60%8%
3rd8%24%20%24%16%40%4%
4th8%24%20%20%20%40%4%
5th12%20%16%32%8%40%12%
6th24%8%32%20%4%24%12%
7th24%12%28%20%8%28%8%
8th40%16%20%4%8%12%12%
9th24%12%24%28%0%28%12%
10th44%20%12%8%4%12%12%

  • Bust = Bust
  • NHL Player = bottom 6, bottom pair, decent goalie
  • top6/top 4/starting goalie
  • Top line player/top pairing/all-star goalie
  • HOF = Hall of Fame or trajectory is Hall of Fame
  • Too early = still a prospect
Odd that 9th picks outperform 8th picks. I wonder what 10-15 looks like? I think there's a point where teams feel more free to depart from the consensus - not sure if that impacts outcomes long-term.
 
It sure was - and there was some real panic in him as soon as he realized what happened.

Scary!

Staying on draft track:
We've barely mentioned the younger Eklund in the past week or so, but for my liking, he's every bit as good as his older brother, and likely a better goalscorer.
He's actually my favorite player in the draft. I love players that always have their feet moving and play hard. Never quit on the play and putting up 19 goals in a mens league is impressive. Has skill and competes.
 
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He's actually my favorite player in the draft. I love players that always have their feet moving and play hard. Never quit on the play and putting up 19 goals in a mens league is impressive. Has skill and competes.
Yea he’s one of my favorites as well, it’s just that for a team like the Isles who struggle with ufa’s, it’s important to target key positions like C and high end dmen in the draft. Eklund as a player is probably worth a 5-7 pick, but he’s a small winger which is as replaceable as a position gets. I think I still value him high enough though where I’d be very excited he falls to 10.
 
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Does not sound like this is really the year to win the lottery. I guess it never hurts but those top 2 forwards seem awfully small and a DMan going one unless you're talking Hedman type level which he definitely is not often does not have the impact you hope.
 

McKenzie has Hagans rated 5th on his latest rankings


In these latest rankings, Häagen-Dazs is rated 8th.

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The U18 Worlds is now over and you'll always find those who'll argue that after a full season (or several seasons) of viewings, the tournament will not sway the minds of the scouts very much.

I agree that if you like a kid over a longer period of time and he flubs it a bit here, it's not going to change your opinion much on whether you'd like to bring him in or not.

But the tournament can have a big effect on possible lottery picks and my experience is that it has definitely effected whether a guy ranked 25 can now be seen as 15-17 or one ranked 40 may slip down into the end of the first round.

With the tourney over, I think the biggest impact on a player felt to go in the top 6 or 7 has far and away been to Frondell.

He won a huge title in Sweden, then flew right over to Texas and played like within 3 hours of arrival. That he wasn't great in that game was understandable. But he never really got great and was then even firmly implanted on the bench at some point in the finals. Furthermore, I've seen him with absolute canons for one-timers at the pro level, but didn't see that once at the U18 against boys his age.

Ouch!

So, yes. Teams picking top 6-7 are now going to decide on how much they factor that into their perception - because there'll be other options there, most of whom were NOT at the U18 Worlds (and don't forget, Misa WAS eligible and available - yet Canada didn't take him!).

Hard to tell how the scouts will view Smith and Mrtka now.

At the same time, a number of the Canadian forwards likely put themselves in a better light. For the first round, Martin and Reshny surely got a bump. Maybe Cootes too. If Katzin was looking like a very late rounder, that likely changed here.

Then you have cases like Ekberg and Boumedienne. Pointwise, they put up incredible stats. But both have their issues and it doesn't look like they pushed the needle either way.
 
Does not sound like this is really the year to win the lottery. I guess it never hurts but those top 2 forwards seem awfully small and a DMan going one unless you're talking Hedman type level which he definitely is not often does not have the impact you hope.

Every year is the year to win the lottery. You never know when you'll do it again.

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I don't care what folks say about this draft when labelling it "weaker"!

The kids at the top look just fine (Schaefer = Chabot/Theodore, Misa = Strome/Eklund/Cooley, Hagens = Fantilli/Hughes, Martone = Kempe/Boldy, Frondell = Carlsson, Eklund = Caufield, etc.) and many others after that have plenty of tools to become adequate NHLers - or even perhaps just as important - assets for future trades.

As usual, a couple of teams will make their 6-9 picks and in 5-7 years, we'll realize they set themselves up for future competitiveness largely based on their work at this draft.

*This said, the draft next year is currently looking really special.
 
Every year is the year to win the lottery. You never know when you'll do it again.

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I don't care what folks say about this draft when labelling it "weaker"!

Yeah even if we win this year we still have the ability to win 1 more time within a 5 year period. Take it whenever you can. Simple fact is our odds of getting a valuable NHL player increase dramatically if we pick 1-2 instead of 10.

For me perfect world we get the #2 pick that way our ability to win 2 #1s in future years remains intact but bit with win #1 I won't be upset(part of me wants #2 so we don't have to decide do we go with Shaefffer or not)
 
If Hagens falls to 5 or 6 We might have a shot of trading up. Now that being said it would be hard pressed seeing Boston and Philly it those picks passing him up
I have to admit, I do value the fact that he is a hometown guy.

I guess Tavares, Kovalchuck, Stamkos, Panarin type situations have burned me.
 
He had just played the puck. Like Chapin says, it was just a tad late in real time. Dirty would imply intentional, but it was just unfortunate timing.
Yeah, I don't know about dirty, but it was late by North American standards, and very late by international standards. Martin definitely didn't stride into the hit or launch into it.
 
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He's actually my favorite player in the draft. I love players that always have their feet moving and play hard. Never quit on the play and putting up 19 goals in a mens league is impressive. Has skill and competes.
I agree. I like Eklund a lot. I imagine the combine is going to be important for him - does he have enough of a frame to fill out? Because if he does, he's going to be an excellent pro player. If he doesn't it's going to be a tough slog.
 
If Hagens falls to 5 or 6 We might have a shot of trading up. Now that being said it would be hard pressed seeing Boston and Philly it those picks passing him up
Here's a thought:

If the consensus among NHL evaluators is that Hagens can stick at center with his size/strength, then he'll be gone by those picks. The only reason I can understand for any team preferring Desnoyers over Hagens is that Desnoyers can be a center, and Hagens can't.

If that's the case, I think NYI can trade up for him. And that's probably only a good idea if NYI think he can stay at center.

If that's not the case, and especially if any team past #2 thinks he can stay at center, he's gone at that pick.

Basically if there's a team who think he can be Logan Cooley, the only way NYI has a shot at him is by getting lucky in the lotto.
 

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