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Konk said:
It's not just this one tournament, as Martin's played extremely well all year long in the OHL, albeit on a weak team. Martin's game is a known commodity, so it's not so much a coming out party at the U18s, as it is a chance to see how much more his game can be elevated when he's playing with other skilled players. His performance at the U18s indicates perhaps there's more skill and hockey sense than some have given him credit for.

So like you normally would, take the complete year's performance into consideration and it helps complete the picture a bit more clearly. The U18s are a piece of that.
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Darnit, I was hoping to hone in on him tonight...
 
The NHL is apparently airing the lottery ball draw live this year.

So, the odds of rigging this in our favor in exchange for the ASG debacle just went down a little bit.
 
I wonder what accounting firm is verifying the results. Typically it has been EY...
 
Konk said:
It's not just this one tournament, as Martin's played extremely well all year long in the OHL, albeit on a weak team. Martin's game is a known commodity, so it's not so much a coming out party at the U18s, as it is a chance to see how much more his game can be elevated when he's playing with other skilled players. His performance at the U18s indicates perhaps there's more skill and hockey sense than some have given him credit for.

So like you normally would, take the complete year's performance into consideration and it helps complete the picture a bit more clearly. The U18s are a piece of that.
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What's your read on O'Brien? is he top 10 talent?
 
If you want a good take on 2025 and 2026 draft eligible prospects and the under 18 tournament, I suggest watching Chris Peters of Flo Hockey podcast with Cam Robinson of Elite prospects. Both are at the under 18 tournament and have access to many NHL scouts and their opinions on the players participating. They don't seem that high on any of the 2025 prospects playing at the under 18 tournament as top 10 picks in the 2025 draft even though Frondell is most likely to be one but love the 2026 prospects. Just google Chris Peters NHL and you can find his podcast for free on his twitter feed.
 
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Bill Herlyn said:
If you want a good take on 2025 and 2026 draft eligible prospects and the under 18 tournament, I suggest watching Chris Peters of Flo Hockey podcast with Cam Robinson of Elite prospects. Both are at the under 18 tournament and have access to many NHL scouts and their opinions on the players participating. They don't seem that high on any of the 2025 prospects playing at the under 18 tournament as top 10 picks in the 2025 draft even though Frondell is most likely to be one but love the 2026 prospects. Just google Chris Peters NHL and you can find his podcast for free on his twitter feed.
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2026 is where I want the isles to have a bunch of picks. I see this draft as maybe 15 deep.
 
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I saw some random draft preview website on my phone that had Milton Gastrin in the top 5. I hadn't even heard of him. He actually seems like he'd be a good pick later in the 1st round or 2nd if he drops. Seems to be more of a safe pick to be a player someday.
 
SI said:
What's your read on O'Brien? is he top 10 talent?
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I think someone is very likely to take him in the top 10, but they're doing a lot of projecting. He's a smart and very good playmaker, but he's a PP merchant that very much benefitted from feeding Nick Lardis. He doesn't have the skating or 5-on-5 game that someone like Martin has, which to me, makes O'Brien much harder to project as a pro.
 
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doublechili said:
I saw some random draft preview website on my phone that had Milton Gastrin in the top 5. I hadn't even heard of him. He actually seems like he'd be a good pick later in the 1st round or 2nd if he drops. Seems to be more of a safe pick to be a player someday.
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f***ing love him he’s my sleeper!!! I think he goes middle to back end of first round. Most have him in the 2nd round.
 
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In the last 25 years of the draft -

Summary Table by Draft Position (%):​

Pick #BustNHL PlayerTop 6/Top 4Top LineHOFSuccess RateToo Early
1st4%0%12%28%52%80%4%
2nd4%8%16%28%32%60%8%
3rd8%24%20%24%16%40%4%
4th8%24%20%20%20%40%4%
5th12%20%16%32%8%40%12%
6th24%8%32%20%4%24%12%
7th24%12%28%20%8%28%8%
8th40%16%20%4%8%12%12%
9th24%12%24%28%0%28%12%
10th44%20%12%8%4%12%12%

  • Bust = Bust
  • NHL Player = bottom 6, bottom pair, decent goalie
  • top6/top 4/starting goalie
  • Top line player/top pairing/all-star goalie
  • HOF = Hall of Fame or trajectory is Hall of Fame
  • Too early = still a prospect
 
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SI said:
In the last 25 years of the draft -

Summary Table by Draft Position (%):​

Pick #BustNHL PlayerTop 6/Top 4Top LineHOFSuccess RateToo Early
1st4%0%12%28%52%80%4%
2nd4%8%16%28%32%60%8%
3rd8%24%20%24%16%40%4%
4th8%24%20%20%20%40%4%
5th12%20%16%32%8%40%12%
6th24%8%32%20%4%24%12%
7th24%12%28%20%8%28%8%
8th40%16%20%4%8%12%12%
9th24%12%24%28%0%28%12%
10th44%20%12%8%4%12%12%

  • Bust = Bust
  • NHL Player = bottom 6, bottom pair, decent goalie
  • top6/top 4/starting goalie
  • Top line player/top pairing/all-star goalie
  • HOF = Hall of Fame or trajectory is Hall of Fame
  • Too early = still a prospect
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Thanks for the research. Seems like a team needs to pick in the top 5. After that the success rate drops a lot.
 
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GM4Hire said:
Martin looks like a good player but I see more of a passer , energy guy. Never seen Cizikas when he was that age but reminds me of him.
He certainly should go before Jackson Smith , who I don’t see much from in this U18 tournament.
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I think Smith may fall due to his performance in the U18’s, he’s been awful defensively, seems to be on ice every time the opponent scores, a bunch of giveaways too. Reminds me of Dobson, good offensively, but can be scary (in a bad way) defensively.

I agree, Martin is a really good passer, but aren’t we going to need that to pair with Eiserman in the future ? Hell, Hagens is more of a pass first player too. He’d be perfect for Eiserman (believe they’ve played together in the past). But I doubt we get Hagens, so I’m looking at Brady Martin.
 
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By the way, while watching the U18s, Sweden & Canada are full of excellent prospects for the 2025 draft, not surprising they both made it to the U18 Finals. Sweden has the top 3 scorers and the top 2 goal scorers. Filip Ekberg is having a monster U18s with 10 goals and 8 assists in 6 games so far (broke a Swedish record). Ivar Stenberg has 8 goals, 5 assists and 13 points, also in 6 games. And Sasha Boumedianne, a defenseman, has 1 goal and 13 assists for 14 points in 6 games.

The Canadians have 4 of the top 10 point scorers (including Brady Martin). The Americans were led by forwards Will Moore and LJ Mooney who each had 11 points.
 
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