Prospect Info: David Reinbacher - Get Well Soon Edition

[Michelangelo]

You say tbh but you're not honest. He hasn't played a game in the NHL yet, so it's impossible to know until he plays.

Impossible to know indeed, but still an doable exercise if you consider the information available to date

Is it really a hot take though? This 2023 redraft has Reinbacher at 15: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5708066/2024/10/15/nhl-redraft-2023-bedard-michkov-fantilli/

 

[ReHabs]

Reinbacher wouldn't even go top 10 in a 2023 redraft tbh

He was ranked as low as the 20s toward the Draft Day lists. That doesn't mean other circumstances didn't come up to change the draft order -- by all accounts most teams were enticed by his package + position + handedness.

If he's as smart and focussed as his prospect reputation, he should be a fine pick at 5OA (in a vacuum). Skipping on Michkov (high upside offense) and Leonard (skilled, powerful forward) to pick him is another story.

Reino is a late birthdate player and he was playing in Europe. Those are literally the hardest players to scout in their draft season. He was not eligible for those U18 tournaments who are heavily scouted by NHL and it is extremely difficult to compare players who play totally different level of hockey e.g. Swiss men league, Allsvenskan (2nd mens league in SWE), MHL (RUS juniors), etc.

The difficulty to scout doesn't mean only Hughes and Bobrov have the magic tools to get it right. If they're hard to get a read on, it means precisely that and nothing more. Hard to get a read on = hard to get it right.

Reino (good nickname, better than Orville) can be a welcome addition to the team by all accounts and help propel the Habs forward so we'll see how it shakes out but I'm not expecting him to have a better career than Michkov. At this point it seems unfair to the Habs and the player alike.

 

[Guy Larose]

Impossible to know indeed, but still an doable exercise if you consider the information available to date

Is it really a hot take though? This 2023 redraft has Reinbacher at 15: 2023 NHL re-draft: Connor Bedard, Adam Fantilli, Leo Carlsson lead the class

That's not how a redraft works. You need metrics for comparables. A lot of players from that draft class haven't even played a game in the NHL yet.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Reinbacher wouldn't even go top 10 in a 2023 redraft tbh

That has a lot to do with his injury and taking away development games. I was not high on the Reinbacher pick but he is that rare big RD body with very good skating. Those are sought after and we were not the only ones who wanted Reinbacher.

When I look at that 2023 list (today), I can see 5 or 6 guys that would go before Reinbacher and then it's very subjective. There is no way to prove any feeling on this today. It's way too early to act on any credible context.

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In a blow out win I would say it wasn't his best game but not bad either.

I like Fowler just like any other Habs fan but he is on a stacked team. Difficult to evaluate him on his stats IMO. The other goalie has very good stats in 3 games as well.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Impossible to know indeed, but still an doable exercise if you consider the information available to date

Is it really a hot take though? This 2023 redraft has Reinbacher at 15: 2023 NHL re-draft: Connor Bedard, Adam Fantilli, Leo Carlsson lead the class

Gonna cite a list from the dude who put Hutson's compete and puck skills as average?

Pronman is an idiot, there's no one taking Danielson over Reinbacher. Reinbacher outpaced his production as a defenseman last year, in the AHL.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

I'm sure it isn't the right thread for it, but I had Reinbacher 10th I believe in 2023. Of guys I had ahead of him, I think Wood is probably the only one who I'd drop below him at this point. Of guys behind him, there are a fair amount who I could see jumping him in the next little while (Willander, Cristall, Musty, Ritchie), as well as one who I believe has passed him at this point (ASP).

All works out for a net redraft at 10 for me anyway, with Bedard, Michkov, Carlsson, Fantilli, Leonard, Smith, Benson, Perreault, and ASP ahead of him in my eyes.

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

Not in the same league? No top 10 hype at all?

• McKenzie Midterm Rankings 2025: Hensley No 11
• McKenzie Midterm Rankings 2023: Reinbacher No 20.

I keep hearing how it makes perfect sense that a RD gets pick earlier than he should...why wouldn't a guy who is ahead of where Reinbacher was at the same period not be a top 10 player?

I personnally, I don't. 'Cause i never value position ahead of BPA. But we are not NHL teams right? Nobody saw Reinbacher at 5. At best, McKenzie final list at him at 8.Would you have said the same thing in 2023? If I would have said that I didn't want Reinbacher at 5....that there was no way we'd do it as there wasn't top 10 hype at all? And yet....

I called Reinbacher months in advance for us, was so obvious the Habs would take him

It was either Reinbacher, an undersized forward, a LD, a Russian, a bigger reach than Reinbacher, or another Slovak.

We were't willing to take a Russian so high in the draft so Reinbacher became the only realistic option given the circumstances.

I think Hughes would've taken him above Will Smith too because he was too close to him.

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Feb 22, 2023

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We just beat NYI, EDM and NJD. We play the shitty Flyers on the weekend, we win that and we are 2 pts behind with 2 games in hand. Once we pass Philadelphia, we won't get ahead of them again. Blues are scorching everything down and sucking worse than most other teams.

Really dire spot. If we had played as we should have, we'd be at 47 pts tied with SJS and 1 game in hand.

f***ing idiots.

I have faith that the lottery portion of it is rigged either way so I don't much care about the odds, and unless we're top-3 I don't think it really matters since we won't be...

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[1000eeer]

Reinbacher might actually pan out as a solid two-way defenseman (30-35-40 pts).

Though I don't get why taking so much risk picking him instead of Ryan Leonard. We have a lot a success drafting from the USNTDP and Leonard was a sure shot.

I'm not sure our scouting staff get the notion of risk/reward and the importance of drafting BPA.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Reinbacher might actually pan out as a solid two-way defenseman (30-35-40 pts).

Though I don't get why taking so much risk picking him instead of Ryan Leonard. We have a lot a success drafting from the USNTDP and Leonard was a sure shot.

I'm not sure our scouting staff get the notion of risk/reward and the importance of drafting BPA.

Reinbacher's profile isn't a lot of risk. You are getting a NHL right shot defenseman at minimum.

They understood that you rarely get a shot to get a Reinbacher's package, so when you get it, you better take it.

Leonard's a great player but who many wingers do we need? Our RD position would be beyond dire without the Reinbacher selection and Leonard already would be finding it difficult for PP time with Suzuki, Demidov, Slafkovsky, Caufield and Laine in the mix.