GDT: 2025 NHL Draft Lottery 5/5/25 at 4:00pm PT (UPD: Sharks will pick 2nd. Isles get 1st)

[cheechoo]

If the Isles take Schaefer 1st overall but still want Misa or Hagens, would you trade 2nd overall for Dobson straight up?

No lol

 

[StrawHatEklund]

Seems like a lot of Isles fans are okay with taking Misa at 1 or trading down to 2 to take Misa. Maybe a trade is possible if GM is as receptive.

 

[ChompChomp]

Misa-Celebrini-Chernyshov

Or run
Celebrini
Misa (With Cherny tied to his wing)
Smith?

Down the middle for years to come. Seems like Misa wants to play center, and it's possible the Sharks aren't giving up on Smith at C.

Even putting Smith aside, Celebrini and Misa as your 1C and 2C could be incredible.

 

[SJS1991]

Or run
Celebrini
Misa (With Cherny tied to his wing)
Smith?

Down the middle for years to come. Seems like Misa wants to play center, and it's possible the Sharks aren't giving up on Smith at C.

Even putting Smith aside, Celebrini and Misa as your 1C and 2C could be incredible.

My thinking is… Smith/Misa, we need a 2C. Best one gets it. Loser is on Mack’s wing.

If injuries come knocking… be ready to play 2C

 

[STL Shark]

Chicago takes Hagens and becomes the smurphiest group of smurphs that ever smurphed.

 

[STL Shark]

My thinking is… Smith/Misa, we need a 2C. Best one gets it. Loser is on Mack’s wing.

If injuries come knocking… be ready to play 2C

Chernyshov-Misa-Smith could feed families as a 2nd line.

 

[fasterthanlight]

2nd is a lucky statistical win, hell yeah

 

[sampler]

1. Isles will not take a C. Schaefer is gone. their NHL D has no one under 25. But htey have several good youn forwards. Unwiserman, nelson, Holmstrom, Bednarik.... On D, they have NOTHING. Pulkannen and odelius? ummm.... not much there. Schaefer is just what the doctor ordered for them.

2. I too think grier prefers martone. Misa doesnt match need. However, if he selects martone #2 over Misa, it will be one of the worst GM fails Ive ever seen. Chicago desperately wants Misa. So do like 4 other teams. Grier could easily move down for a nice package and still get martone, so picking him 2nd over misa would be nothing short of horrific asset management and would leave no less than a 1st or more on the table.

Personally, this draft shapes up perfectly now for an SJ/CHI swap for one of their top D prospects. Would chicago part with Rinzel to swap picks with the sharks and get their clear #1C? personally, I'd even be willing to add a sweetener for that deal (dallas 1st?)

imagine we walk away with martone and a 6'5 RHD who is totally NHL ready at age 21?? What a win that would be!!!

 

[SactoShark]

Seems like a lot of Isles fans are okay with taking Misa at 1 or trading down to 2 to take Misa. Maybe a trade is possible if GM is as receptive.

I think in this scenario, the Sharks make it known they are taking Misa at #2 and stand on it.

 

[Hodge]

You absolutely trade the Dallas pick to move up and draft Schaefer if that's all it takes.

 

[spintops]

Fans are going to freak out if Grier takes Martone over Misa but I think Martone fits Grier's vision of our build better than Misa does.

Martone was considered a better prospect than Misa coming into the year and has been selected over Misa by Team Canada at the World Juniors and now at Mens Worlds. He's bigger, is a right hand shot and a more natural winger to complement Celebrini and Smith down the middle.

Hagens was considered a way better prospect than Martone coming into the year. Some even said better than Macklin! We should totally just draft off old rankings instead of using the new data we have?

 

[Roasted Nuts]

Chernyshov-Misa-Smith could feed families as a 2nd line.

It would feed all the starving kids in the world

 

[Hodge]

Hagens was considered a way better prospect than Martone coming into the year. Some even said better than Macklin! We should totally just draft off old rankings instead of using the new data we have?

The newest data being that Martone was invited to play for Team Canada with a bunch of elite NHLers, Misa was dogshit in the playoffs and people are openly speculating Misa won't be the first forward picked.

 

[Wedontneedroads]

Or run
Celebrini
Misa (With Cherny tied to his wing)
Smith?

Down the middle for years to come. Seems like Misa wants to play center, and it's possible the Sharks aren't giving up on Smith at C.

Even putting Smith aside, Celebrini and Misa as your 1C and 2C could be incredible.

You can really do whatever you want. A player like Misa gives you so much flexibility. Obviously they aren’t McDavid and Drai, but that’s the style of relationship you could try to copy with Celebrini and Misa.

I just love the thought of Misa and Celebrini on the same line even though it probably never happens.

Misa-Celebrini-Cherny
Eklund-Smith-Musty
Bystedt-Ostapchuk-Graf
Lund-Svoboda-Wetch

If everyone hits their ceiling that forward group is legit.

Big question marks still on a ton of those guys and this completely ignores the blue line, but you can see the type of team Grier wants to build.

 

[Sturminator]

Fans are going to freak out if Grier takes Martone over Misa but I think Martone fits Grier's vision of our build better than Misa does.

Martone was considered a better prospect than Misa coming into the year and has been selected over Misa by Team Canada at the World Juniors and now at Mens Worlds. He's bigger, is a right hand shot and a more natural winger to complement Celebrini and Smith down the middle.

I would probably take Misa if I had the choice to make, myself, but then I'm not a huge believer in Will Smith as a center. If Grier likes Smith at center as much as he says he does, Martone should be a strong consideration. He and Misa are in the same tier of talent.

 

[Juxtaposer]

The newest data being that Martone was invited to play for Team Canada with a bunch of elite NHLers, Misa was dogshit in the playoffs and people are openly speculating Misa won't be the first forward picked.

Misa was hurt in the playoffs to the extent that he missed the last game, in case you didn't know that.

 

[Hodge]

I would probably take Misa if I had the choice to make, myself, but then I'm not a huge believer in Will Smith as a center. If Grier likes Smith at center as much as he says he does, Martone should be a strong consideration. He and Misa are in the same tier of talent.

If we can't get Schaefer I'm fine with any of Misa, Martone, Frondell or even Desnoyers if that's who our scouting staff thinks is the best player.

I'm just worried Misa might be more of what we already have in the top six but maybe I'm underrating his defensive and physical game.

 

[BaileyMacTavish]

The bad luck od this franchise never ceases to astound me. My head might just explode

 

[Hodge]

We can also put to bed the idea we would have been better off with Pittsburgh's unprotected 1st this year over Dickinson. They're picking 11th in a weaker draft.

 

[Sturminator]

If we can't get Schaefer I'm fine with any of Misa, Martone, Frondell or even Desnoyers if that's who our scouting staff thinks is the best player.

I'm just worried Misa might be more of what we already have in the top six but maybe I'm underrating his defensive and physical game.

If you mean that he's a lot like Celebrini, what on earth is the problem with that? There is a long history of good NHL teams built around a pair of strong, play-driving centers.

 

[cheechoo]

If we can't get Schaefer I'm fine with any of Misa, Martone, Frondell or even Desnoyers if that's who our scouting staff thinks is the best player.

I'm just worried Misa might be more of what we already have in the top six but maybe I'm underrating his defensive and physical game.

I think you're definitely underrated his physical attributes and his ability to be a goal scoring phenom. He's a borderline elite skater and an elite shooter of the puck and has that stocky build that allows him to win in a plethora of ways around the net, and he's a bull in the corners.

I think he's a future 1LW in the NHL and a player that could equally compliment Macklin or Smith or drive his own line.

 

[Hodge]

If you mean that he's a lot like Celebrini, what on earth is the problem with that? There is a long history of good NHL teams built around a pair of strong, play-driving centers.

I meant more like Eklund and Smith, undersized skill, but Celebrini isn't the biggest forward in the league either. You need size and physicality along with skill in order to win in the playoffs.

 

[Hodge]

I think you're definitely underrated his physical attributes and his ability to be a goal scoring phenom. He's a borderline elite skater and an elite shooter of the puck and has that stocky build that allows him to win in a plethora of ways around the net, and he's a bull in the corners.

I think he's a future 1LW in the NHL and a player that could equally compliment Macklin or Smith or drive his own line.

If the plan is to draft Misa to use him on the wing then trade Eklund for a defenseman and add size around your three star forwards then that could make sense.

 

[Timo Time]

The bad luck od this franchise never ceases to astound me. My head might just explode

Statistically speaking, it wasn't bad luck though. It could be worse, we could be Anaheim. Really can't be terribly mad at this result.

 

[sharski]

trade up for Mrtka

Misa-Celebrini-Smith
Dickinson-Mrtka

death lineup