2025 NHL Draft: Lose a ton for Porter Martone

[Cas]

3 7th round picks

That would be very high for Rutta.

 

[Star Platinum]

Not many, but you can always bundle lower picks together and trun them around on another deal? or would you just want to keep those guys?

I would happily trade all 3 for whatever the best offer is, but I don't expect to be offered much.

 

[Juxtaposer]

Brad Stuart's son plays for the NTDP... man I feel old.

 

[PattyLafontaine]

How many high picks you think we can get for Kunin, Sturm, and Rutta?

Depends on how injuries go for other teams.

Sturm has value as a face off wizard, which could inflate his value immensely. Kunin has 4th liner value. Rutta is 6/8th defenseman.

 

[Barrie22]

Brad Stuart's son plays for the NTDP... man I feel old.

Considering stuart was only in his early 20's when i joined the sharks wagon with his departure and i was also early 20's yup very old.

 

[JoeThorntonsRooster]

Play like your most of your defensemen are worse than Luca Sbisa for Michael Misa.

 

[Juxtaposer]

Play like your most of your defensemen are worse than Luca Sbisa for Michael Misa.

Pithy and accurate. First tag line I've seen in this whole thread I can get behind.

 

[Lebanezer]

Play like your most of your defensemen are worse than Luca Sbisa for Michael Misa.

Very nice. Best part is Sbisa works for the Sharks now.

 

[Juxtaposer]

Very nice. Best part is Sbisa works for the Sharks now.

Everything is becoming clear now!

 

[Grinner]

Atone for Martone

 

[Barrie22]

Everything is becoming clear now!

Outside of marleau, the player development team is a whos who of i barely made a play my entire career.

 

[JoeThorntonsRooster]

Pithy and accurate. First tag line I've seen in this whole thread I can get behind.

The question is, can you get behind Misa at 1OV? Statistically, his profile is arguably the best of the big 4. But feels like people hold him in a lower regard than the other 3.

 

[Juxtaposer]

The question is, can you get behind Misa at 1OV? Statistically, his profile is arguably the best of the big 4. But feels like people hold him in a lower regard than the other 3.

At 1OA? No. At 3OA, where we are statistically most likely to land? Absolutely.

 

[Erep]

Sharks UFA's after this season: Granlund, Kunin, Sturm, Rutta, Ceci. I say deal them all for high picks in the next 2-3 years drafts, and/or prospects, and/or strategic player targets.

Almost forgot the goalies, UFA's Blackwood and Vanicek

I feel like the way Macklin is playing, and the signs that Smith and Askarov are showing mean you have to keep Granlund (assuming he is willing to resign).

Whether or not the team will actually be good enough to push for a playoff spot next year, I feel like you have to embrace the positive momentum those guys are bringing. Plus, Cagnoni and Dickinson have a solid chance to be in the lineup next year.

Trading Granlund feels like you are telling the kids and future core guys, who are already starting to carry the team "you aren't allowed to win, yet, stop it" which I don't think is a message you want to send.

 

[OverTheLine]

What are the chances we get Schaefer without the lottery win? Feels like Chicago could go either way with him or another forward to give Bedard some much needed help. Not sure about the other bottom dwellers.

 

[Shark Finn]

What are the chances we get Schaefer without the lottery win? Feels like Chicago could go either way with him or another forward to give Bedard some much needed help. Not sure about the other bottom dwellers.

50/50, we either get him or don't.

 

[DG93]

... Play Badly for Matty?
Bad Play-fer Matt Schaefer?

Suck for Schaefer is a bit pedestrian but might be the kind of slogan that wins elections

Break like a wafer, Draft Matt Schaefer

 

[Juxtaposer]

What are the chances we get Schaefer without the lottery win? Feels like Chicago could go either way with him or another forward to give Bedard some much needed help. Not sure about the other bottom dwellers.

As of right now? Certainly possible. Hagens, Martone, and Schaefer are all viable choices at 1st overall right now, and while I have yet to see a list with Misa 1st overall, I've seen plenty of him at 2nd and he could still have another gear.

 

[landshark]

I feel like this group desperately needs a class on acceptable rhyming.

Really? After the absolute bullshit rappers get paid for these days?

 

[Lebanezer]

Really? After the absolute bullshit rappers get paid for these days?

They aren’t the gold standard. This is HFboards. We exist far above the rest of society.

 

[coooldude]

As of Thanksgiving (happy one to you all!), the Sharks:

• Have the lowest point % per Tankathon.
• Are second-lowest ranked in Moneypuck's Power Ranking a.k.a. chance of winning against the average NHL team - ANA amazingly is worse due mostly to terrible 5v5 play and a weak PP (and power play )
• Have the fourth-hardest remaining strength of schedule according to Tankathon (ANA worst, then DET and NYI).
• Are projected to finish last with 65.4 points, according to Moneypuck.

Lots could happen, and the team is a huge step above last year, but it is indeed projecting to be a bottom 2 team. We may be really glad for the 0-7-2 start by the end of the season.

 

[Barrie22]

As of Thanksgiving (happy one to you all!), the Sharks:

• Have the lowest point % per Tankathon.
• Are second-lowest ranked in Moneypuck's Power Ranking a.k.a. chance of winning against the average NHL team - ANA amazingly is worse due mostly to terrible 5v5 play and a weak PP (and power play )
• Have the fourth-hardest remaining strength of schedule according to Tankathon (ANA worst, then DET and NYI).
• Are projected to finish last with 65.4 points, according to Moneypuck.

Lots could happen, and the team is a huge step above last year, but it is indeed projecting to be a bottom 2 team. We may be really glad for the 0-7-2 start by the end of the season.

Take out those 9 games and we are 7-6-3 in 16 games. 17 points in 16 games. Points % of 1.06.

If we played at the same pace for the 1st 9 games as we are now, it would be another 9.54 points. 9 points added to the 17 brings us to 26 points. Tied with colorado for the 1st wild card spot and 1 point back of 3rd in the pacific.

 

[Lebanezer]

As of Thanksgiving (happy one to you all!), the Sharks:

• Have the lowest point % per Tankathon.
• Are second-lowest ranked in Moneypuck's Power Ranking a.k.a. chance of winning against the average NHL team - ANA amazingly is worse due mostly to terrible 5v5 play and a weak PP (and power play )
• Have the fourth-hardest remaining strength of schedule according to Tankathon (ANA worst, then DET and NYI).
• Are projected to finish last with 65.4 points, according to Moneypuck.

Lots could happen, and the team is a huge step above last year, but it is indeed projecting to be a bottom 2 team. We may be really glad for the 0-7-2 start by the end of the season.

Macklin being injured played a big part in the poor start. They’re 4-5-4 with him. Had he not gotten hurt their record would be better.

 

[hohosaregood]

I think that the staff did change a couple aspects of the system too. Like we were kinda piling on Smith and who the F3 tracks back on during back checks but we haven't really seen that issue lately.

 

[coooldude]

I think that the staff did change a couple aspects of the system too. Like we were kinda piling on Smith and who the F3 tracks back on during back checks but we haven't really seen that issue lately.

We've seen the F3 track to the puck and the defensemen hold their lanes, as long as it's before the red line and/or the back check is sufficient, so he probably made the right read but too late, causing harder reads for Thrun and Benning. This is basically what Jack Han said. The system has been clearer and more stable lately, likely owing to the team just getting more familiar and it becoming more second nature. Therefore we've seen the F3 attack the puck immediately in the NZ, and sometimes as the break approaches the OZ, but not at the expense of the middle ice.

To their credit, either due to coaching or figuring out themselves, the D have also been more patient on the breakouts, and once they get the puck on their stick from a turnover in the DZ. Fewer flailing forces up the boards or reverses, a lot more patient D to D or other small area plays in corner or behind the net.

Have to say generally ... All the issues we have complained about, all the line problems or PP problems I've whined about or seen others mention, seems to me like the coaching staff addresses them pretty quickly. I think they're making the absolute most of this lineup.

So yes, we may very well improve, but we dug a pretty deep hole and I'm not yet convinced we're about to finish out the last 55 games at 0.500 to get us to 74 points. Especially not with injuries and possibly trades. Even if we do, we're probably still finishing bottom 3.