Red Sox/MLB 2025 Hot Stove - Mets land Juan Soto on 15-year, $765M deal

[RoccoF14]

Sounds like Teel is the guy that hurts losing the most.

Montgomery a bigger question mark having missed a full season.

Montgomery was a College Player this past season at Texas A&M (after transferring from Stanford). That's my alma mater and I watched a lot of their games this season. They lost in the finals of the College World Series to Tennessee, and had Montgomery been healthy, I think he would have put them over the top.

Montgomery played a full season last year, he just broke his ankle playing in the College World Series. Had he not done so, he would have been a Top 5 draft pick. Instead, he fell to Boston at #12. I'm probably biased, but I like him a lot. Switch hitter, with good power and hit for average as well. Very good arm (he also pitched in college), but probably more suited for corner outfield. Boston's got a lot of outfield prospects, so he got dealt, but I think he's gonna be a solid major leaguer.

 

[GatorMike]

At the risk of saying something patiently obvious, but if Garrett Crochet becomes the next Tarik Skubal, then no one will care what was traded to acquire him.

 

[CDJ]

I'm sorry, but one single season as a starter where he wasn't allowed to throw more than 4 innings in the second half of the season is not established in anyway.

He threw 140 innings of great ball, 219 innings overall in his career. I’m sorry but he’s for sure a very good pitcher at the big league level. Established big leaguer

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Montgomery was a College Player this past season at Texas A&M (after transferring from Stanford). That's my alma mater and I watched a lot of their games this season. They lost in the finals of the College World Series to Tennessee, and had Montgomery been healthy, I think he would have put them over the top.

Montgomery played a full season last year, he just broke his ankle playing in the College World Series. Had he not done so, he would have been a Top 5 draft pick. Instead, he fell to Boston at #12. I'm probably biased, but I like him a lot. Switch hitter, with good power and hit for average as well. Very good arm (he also pitched in college), but probably more suited for corner outfield. Boston's got a lot of outfield prospects, so he got dealt, but I think he's gonna be a solid major leaguer.

Thanks!

 

[N o o d l e s]

Maybe people forget because this seems like it would have been a different lifetime, but Crochet was in the pen because he was drafted and immediately joined a playoff race. He was absolutely disgusting last season and if he hadn’t had the injury he did, wouldn’t have been limited IP wise. The updated WAR projections for this year have him at 5.5. The next highest from the group of Snell, Burnes and Fried is 4.5.

 

[EverettMike]

Maybe people forget because this seems like it would have been a different lifetime, but Crochet was in the pen because he was drafted and immediately joined a playoff race. He was absolutely disgusting last season and if he hadn’t had the injury he did, wouldn’t have been limited IP wise. The updated WAR projections for this year have him at 5.5. The next highest from the group of Snell, Burnes and Fried is 4.5.

....Yes, exactly.

But even if we're not worried about the fact he's already had TJ (which isn't unreasonable, actually), we literally don't know how his body will hold up when he hits even 160 innings. We have no idea if he can pitch a full workload. Some guys can, some guys can't.

Maybe I'm gun shy after watching Chris Sale disintegrate into dust every September, but when I give up this much talent I'd like to know a guy can be effective when he's throwing his 200th inning in mid October, you know?

 

[wintersej]

I think this is absolutely right. The goal is to build an 85-win team knowing that a) bad breaks will mean a last place finish and a high draft pick, b) good breaks will mean 95 wins and competing for the division with a WIld Card guaranteed and c) normal breaks will mean they are "in it" until the end.

The days of striving to build a 100-game winner are long over. They were once driven by a single goal of winning titles by building the best team in baseball. Now they want to buy scratch tickets.

Agree, but I do think they when the kids are all ready (and if they are as good as we hope) they will try to make runs. Just not all the time.

 

[EverettMike]

Agree, but I do think they when the kids are all ready (and if they are as good as we hope) they will try to make runs. Just not all the time.

I genuinely thought Mookie Betts did not want to play here and defended ownership for trading him based on that belief.

I now 100% believe they simply didn't want to pay him because they're cheap and aren't driven by winning. And if they won't resign their own homegrown Hall of Fame talent why should I expect them to ever sign any players, their own or FAs, to big deals?

I have less than zero faith in them. That's why they couldn't even hire a GM because no legitimate candidate was going to accept this awful job working for awful bosses. That's why they had to bottom feed with Breslow who is in over his head by 8 feet of water.

Bullshit ownership trying to avoid criticism and nothing more. That's how you end up trading high-level prospects for a cost-controlled pitcher when legit talent is available in free agency. Trading prospects doesn't cost anything!

 

[N o o d l e s]

....Yes, exactly.

But even if we're not worried about the fact he's already had TJ (which isn't unreasonable, actually), we literally don't know how his body will hold up when he hits even 160 innings. We have no idea if he can pitch a full workload. Some guys can, some guys can't.

Maybe I'm gun shy after watching Chris Sale disintegrate into dust every September, but when I give up this much talent I'd like to know a guy can be effective when he's throwing his 200th inning in mid October, you know?

I think I’d be more concerned if he pitched like 90 innings then was limited. He pitched nearly 150 innings and he struck out 209. It’s absurd. He also didn’t even show any signs of injury. I follow him closely because I’ve owned him in my super deep dynasty for years.

 

[BradPark22]

Is the team better with Crochet?

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

Is the team better with Crochet?

Will let you know in August

 

[EverettMike]

Is the team better with Crochet?

If they traded Roman Anthony for a decent middle reliever the team would be better.

 

[GatorMike]

I hate to keep bringing his name up, but Tarik Skubal had flexor tendon surgery at age 25, missed nearly an entire season, and had never thrown 150 innings in a season prior to this year.

 

[CDJ]

I hate to keep bringing his name up, but Tarik Skubal had flexor tendon surgery at age 25, missed nearly an entire season, and had never thrown 150 innings in a season prior to this year.

Yup and now there’s no way of getting him. If Crochet went out there next year and threw 180 innings of the kinda ball he’s shown in his career the cost would be exorbitant. Would start with Roman Anthony or Campbell, would also include Teel+

 

[Chevalier du Clavier]

 

[DKH]

Conflicting here - Gammons makes it sound like Casas was offered they don’t want ???

But starts with (correctly) Casas born to hit in Fenway - hits away pitches to left

 

[CDJ]

I think they offered Casas for Woo or Miller and got rebuffed judging by reports that have been out there

 

[BigGoalBrad]

Is the team better with Crochet?

I just want him to demand the announcers pronounce his name correctly and every time he strikes a guy out he stares at them and grabs his crotch.

His starts would be events of their own and like prime Pedro starts.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

I just want him to demand the announcers pronounce his name correctly and every time he strikes a guy out he stares at them and grabs his crotch.

His starts would be events of their own and like prime Pedro starts.

So crotch grabbing is on the same level as watching Pedro pitch?

I think not.

I hope not.

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

I just want him to demand the announcers pronounce his name correctly and every time he strikes a guy out he stares at them and grabs his crotch.

His starts would be events of their own and like prime Pedro starts.

I used to think stuff up like this. Then I turned 18.

 

[Chevalier du Clavier]

 

[Chevalier du Clavier]

 

[GatorMike]

 

[GatorMike]

 

[FrankerC]

Tough for Williams, another beard lost to the Yankees