Red Sox/MLB 2025 Hot Stove - Mets land Juan Soto on 15-year, $765M deal

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I don't even really hate this deal. It's just that it's a poor use of the assets they have available (including money, prospects, players) and given their current operating model, they can't really afford to do that.
 

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The thing that annoys me the most about this trade is they did it cause its cheap, moneywise. His cost is low and come time to pay him, if he does perform like an ace, they will let him walk.


If he develops into a true ace and is healthy, I can't see a team that just offered over 600 Million to a player letting him walk because of money.

I'm certainly not guaranteeing anything, but I really think they have turned the corner on being cheap.

I think getting a quality arm at this point in the "rebuild" via trade is prudent, especially if, as they have said, they're also looking to add another quality arm.
 

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I personally love the deal. They moved their #4 and #5 prospect for a 25 YO that pitched like an ace

Campbell/Mayer/Roman untouched? Yeah sign me the f*** up. You accumulate the prospect depth they have so you can deal from it guys
 
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The thing that annoys me the most about this trade is they did it cause its cheap, moneywise. His cost is low and come time to pay him, if he does perform like an ace, they will let him walk.

The funny thing is I'm pretty sure he doesn't want to throw another pitch without an extension, but that's really just because he knows his arm's about to fall off.

If he develops into a true ace and is healthy, I can't see a team that just offered over 600 Million to a player letting him walk because of money.

I'm certainly not guaranteeing anything, but I really think they have turned the corner on being cheap.

I think getting a quality arm at this point in the "rebuild" via trade is prudent, especially if, as they have said, they're also looking to add another quality arm.

I don't know, pretty sure everything they've done so far says the opposite.
 

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You know what? I think this is a horribly run organization and I just don't care anymore.
That I totally agree with. Even the reports of infighting between Kennedy and Breslow (not that I believe that reporting but still). The owner has fans by the balls and doesn't care about the team. The management team led by untouchable Sam Kennedy couldn't find a GM to take the job.

The real person to blame for the Red Sox having to trade for a potential ace? Chaim Bloom. Fact not opinion.
 

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I personally love the deal. They moved their #4 and #5 prospect for a 25 YO that pitched like an ace

Campbell/Mayer/Roman untouched? Yeah sign me the f*** up. You get the prospect depth they have so you can deal from it guys

It feels like a Dombrowski trade. It's not so much trading the prospects that's the issue, it's that you're not doing it efficiently.

Dombrowski could get away with it because he had the top payroll in baseball for half his tenure (and didn't have to deal with the obvious rebuild that was coming). As currently constructed, I don't think this team can afford a deal like this. I'd be happy to be wrong if they go out and spend a ton of money in free agency, but I think the timing of this deal suggests that's not going to happen.
 

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That I totally agree with. Even the reports of infighting between Kennedy and Breslow (not that I believe that reporting but still). The owner has fans by the balls and doesn't care about the team. The management team led by untouchable Sam Kennedy couldn't find a GM to take the job.

The real person to blame for the Red Sox having to trade for a potential ace? Chaim Bloom. Fact not opinion.

Nothing changed under Breslow. Tells me Bloom was following the same orders.
 
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If he develops into a true ace and is healthy, I can't see a team that just offered over 600 Million to a player letting him walk because of money.

I'm certainly not guaranteeing anything, but I really think they have turned the corner on being cheap.

I think getting a quality arm at this point in the "rebuild" via trade is prudent, especially if, as they have said, they're also looking to add another quality arm.
I am not drinking that Koolaid yet. They could have had Fried and all they had to do was match according to reports.
 
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White Sox made a fantastic deal but Sox did solid

Sox need another SP & I’d love Bergman but seems a long shot with Campbell & Mayer staying

I’m Cashman - I sign Bregman and trade for Kyle Tucker

Tucker in Yankees Stsdium could hit 40

Bellinger could be a Yankees too

I am not drinking that Koolaid yet. They could have had Fried and all they had to do was match according to reports.
Where is the link - I don’t doubt you haven’t seen it
 

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It feels like a Dombrowski trade. It's not so much trading the prospects that's the issue, it's that you're not doing it efficiently.

Dombrowski could get away with it because he had the top payroll in baseball for half his tenure (and didn't have to deal with the obvious rebuild that was coming). As currently constructed, I don't think this team can afford a deal like this. I'd be happy to be wrong if they go out and spend a ton of money in free agency, but I think the timing of this deal suggests that's not going to happen.
Doesn’t feel like that all, I think you’re underselling Crochet. You have to give to get and this doesn’t seem excessive at all

Guys they just got a 25 YO ace without giving up a top 3 guy. Thats insane
 
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They fire Dombrowski because the farm system was depleted, they hire Chaim Bloom to rebuild it, fire Chaim because the pro roster was lacking and uncompetitive, so they bring in Breslow to get the farm system.

f***ing Henry and Werner cannot make their minds up on an organizational direction and it left the team pissing in the wind for the last six years.
 

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I personally love the deal. They moved their #4 and #5 prospect for a 25 YO that pitched like an ace

Campbell/Mayer/Roman untouched? Yeah sign me the f*** up. You accumulate the prospect depth they have so you can deal from it guys
Yes but Montgomery is 2 and at worst 3 on every other team

Cora pushing hard for Bregman apparently
 

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The funny thing is I'm pretty sure he doesn't want to throw another pitch without an extension, but that's really just because he knows his arm's about to fall off.



I don't know, pretty sure everything they've done so far says the opposite.
or it just might be because he doesn’t want to provide top of the rotation value at league minimum, probably that

Every pitcher is an injury risk, you can’t play scaredy cat

Yes but Montgomery is 2 and at worst 3 on every other team

Cora pushing hard for Bregman apparently
Very good prospect but that’s depth you can trade from given the outfield situation we have in the org. Same with Meidroth. Teel is the piece that truly hurts but yeah give me the 25 YO top of the rotation guy
 

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