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Predict CBJ's draft position

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CalBuckeyeRob

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Should ask their position before the lottery draw since we know that even if they have the worst record they won't get the #1 pick.
 

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I'm think somewhere in the 5-10 range but need to see who they talk into coaching this team before I'm willing to cast a vote.
 
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tunnelvision said:
You should be able to change your vote until Oct-12.

Btw do you have any early favorites yet?
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Not sure Id say I have many favorites yet, havent seen a ton of most of these guys. I dont know what his ultimate upside is but Spence has me intrigued. If he rounds out his offensive game on top of his compete level he could be a menace
 
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Btw do you have any early favorites yet?
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Two guys that interest me.

Ivan Ryabkin is a Russian center. He is signed through 2027, so he might fall a few spots later than he should. We can wait on him and we have potential Russian linemates to help him get used to the NHL when he comes over. He is the kind of guy who could fall to 7 or 8 so if we improve but are still pretty bad, he could be our guy.

Sascha Boumedienne is a former AAA Blue Jacket and Youngstown Phantom. He’ll be at Boston University this fall. Of course his dad has been in the scouting department and an assistant coach with the Jackets. 6’2” left shot D who can skate. He could be there around 10 if you look at some way too early lists. I generally say “stay away from Columbus guys” but he could be seen as an eventual Werenski replacement (10 years younger than Werenski) that you wouldn’t have to rush. Nobody will know more about him than the scouting department of the CBJ.
 
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I went with stupid pool. Its stupid because the ranges are only 2 long.Should be 4 long.

And I agree with above comment that result should be where they would draft pre-lottery. As a winner from last year I sweated out dropping to 5.because of two teams jumping us. That would have made a mockery of my skill. :sarcasm:
 

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koteka said:
Sascha Boumedienne is a former AAA Blue Jacket and Youngstown Phantom. He’ll be at Boston University this fall. Of course his dad has been in the scouting department and an assistant coach with the Jackets. 6’2” left shot D who can skate. He could be there around 10 if you look at some way too early lists. I generally say “stay away from Columbus guys” but he could be seen as an eventual Werenski replacement (10 years younger than Werenski) that you wouldn’t have to rush. Nobody will know more about him than the scouting department of the CBJ.
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Yeah I'm a fan already, and least because of the connection to CBJ. I've seen a few Youngstown games from last year and he stood out positively in every one of them. I won't be surprised if he's the first D taken at the draft although I haven't seen much of the other highly ranked defenders yet.

I think he can grow into a dynamic two-way 1D some day if everything goes right, as of now I see higher upside than what Werenski is and has been. Just needs to bulk up so that he can be more effective defensively on 1v1 situations and get his strides even more explosive.

Other than the lack of physical growth, which is totally understandable at his age, so far I haven't been able to detect any red flags in him. The skating might be as outstanding as people tend to say but what I've found maybe even more impressive are his reads, and passing and deception skills. He can do flashy carries out of the zone, subtle saucer pass breakouts and hard tape-to-tape cross ice passes through forechecker's triangle. To see some of that special offensive stuff on a 6'2 frame defenseman who also happens to play a smart and active defensive game is really exciting.
 
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Pronman: 20. Sascha Boumedienne, LHD, Youngstown-USHL (7th defenseman on his list)

Boumedienne was quite good as a 16-year-old in the USHL. He came out of the gates on fire, although his production cooled down significantly in the second half. His skating gets you excited about his NHL projection. He has NHL footspeed and edge work, and his stride gets him around the ice effortlessly. His puck game is good, not amazing. He makes plays and has above-average skills, but he doesn’t project as a major offensive type at the higher levels. He will play his draft season at Boston University.
 
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Avoiding being overly optimistic and needlessly negative, I look at it like this: who can realistically be worse than CBJ? In the West I figure Anaheim, Chicago, San José definitely could. Maybe Calgary too. In the East I think Montréal might be worse and Pittsburgh in the unlikely event that all their star players fall off completely.

So that's 4 teams that are possible below Columbus and 2 that is a maybe. Thus, I figure Columbus, as of right now, will have pick #4 pre-lottery. But I assume or hope that D-Wad's got a few more moves to make this off-season, so that is subject to change based on those and, of course, the choice of Head Coach. I will change my guess accordingly.
 
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Aaaarrgghh said:
Avoiding being overly optimistic and needlessly negative, I look at it like this: who can realistically be worse than CBJ? In the West I figure Anaheim, Chicago, San José definitely could. Maybe Calgary too. In the East I think Montréal might be worse and Pittsburgh in the unlikely event that all their star players fall off completely.

So that's 4 teams that are possible below Columbus and 1 that is a maybe. Thus, I figure Columbus, as of right now, will have pick #4 pre-lottery. But I assume or hope that D-Wad's got a few more moves to make this off-season, so that is subject to change based on those and, of course, the choice of Head Coach. I will change my guess accordingly.
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This type of analysis ignores the biggest source of improvement that teams experience year over year: young players getting better over time.

When the Jackets get better, it won't be because of a free agent signing or trade acquisition. It will be players like Chinakhov, Johnson, Jiricek and Fantilli simply maturing into the high end players they have shown glimpses of being.
 
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Crede777 said:
This type of analysis ignores the biggest source of improvement that teams experience year over year: young players getting better over time.

When the Jackets get better, it won't be because of a free agent signing or trade acquisition. It will be players like Chinakhov, Johnson, Jiricek and Fantilli simply maturing into the high end players they have shown glimpses of being.
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This sounds suspiciously like "The Answer Is In The Room" talk, citizen. Saying such things could get you in trouble...
 
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Crede777 said:
This type of analysis ignores the biggest source of improvement that teams experience year over year: young players getting better over time.

When the Jackets get better, it won't be because of a free agent signing or trade acquisition. It will be players like Chinakhov, Johnson, Jiricek and Fantilli simply maturing into the high end players they have shown glimpses of being.
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That's true. But the young players of most of the teams listed there will also improve. Why would that be a bigger factor for Columbus? I guess you could break down the youth on each team, but I didn't bother when I made my initial guess.

EDIT: And I did actually factor in, albeit very simplistically, that the youth might improve and other teams decline due to age. That's why I said Montréal and Calgary may be behind Columbus and Pittsburgh too if the stars align.
 
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Aaaarrgghh said:
That's true. But the young players of most of the teams listed there will also improve. Why would that be a bigger factor for Columbus? I guess you could break down the youth on each team, but I didn't bother when I made my initial guess.

EDIT: And I did actually factor in, albeit very simplistically, that the youth might improve and other teams decline due to age. That's why I said Montréal and Calgary may be behind Columbus and Pittsburgh too if the stars align.
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On second thought, I should add Ottawa to that maybe category and Minnesota and St. Louis to the unlikely category. Hmm... I will bump up Columbus to #5 or #6 even assuming a Pascal Vincent level quality coach.
 
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Aaaarrgghh said:
That's true. But the young players of most of the teams listed there will also improve. Why would that be a bigger factor for Columbus? I guess you could break down the youth on each team, but I didn't bother when I made my initial guess.

EDIT: And I did actually factor in, albeit very simplistically, that the youth might improve and other teams decline due to age. That's why I said Montréal and Calgary may be behind Columbus and Pittsburgh too if the stars align.
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Because the expectation isn't just that the Jackets young players will improve. It's that they will improve and top out (as a collective) as being better than young players on other similarly situated teams.
 
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Crede777 said:
Because the expectation isn't just that the Jackets young players will improve. It's that they will improve and top out (as a collective) as being better than young players on other similarly situated teams.
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I hope that you are right. As I said, I will probably bump my guess up a few places depending on the coach they hire. The new coach will be instrumental to the size of the step forward that the youth takes.
 
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Aaaarrgghh said:
Avoiding being overly optimistic and needlessly negative, I look at it like this: who can realistically be worse than CBJ? In the West I figure Anaheim, Chicago, San José definitely could. Maybe Calgary too. In the East I think Montréal might be worse and Pittsburgh in the unlikely event that all their star players fall off completely.

So that's 4 teams that are possible below Columbus and 2 that is a maybe. Thus, I figure Columbus, as of right now, will have pick #4 pre-lottery. But I assume or hope that D-Wad's got a few more moves to make this off-season, so that is subject to change based on those and, of course, the choice of Head Coach. I will change my guess accordingly.
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And two years ago who predicted the Bruins would be a playoff team (never mind President's Trophy winners) or that the Devils were playoff bound? And be honest, who had the Devils not making the playoffs this year, the Knights making it as the last playoff team or that the Canucks and Caps were making the playoffs?

From year to year you never know. You don't know which teams are going to have collective career years up or down, which teams will be decimated by injuries and which teams youngsters are going to figure it out all at once. The year the CBJ made the playoffs with Steve Mason as a rookie, none of us saw it coming.

I am not saying you are wrong or right, just saying none of us know. It's why they play the games.
 
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