GDT: 2024 TDL thread. Post all trades, rumors, and etc around the league. (TDL, Friday 3/8 @ 3pm ET)

[EdJovanovski]

He’d score 70 points next year on Crosby’s wing

Kakko is the one player I imagine wouldn’t be fired up and motivated over being traded he would be even more timid and it would hurt his confidence even worse. And he would be too nervous to play with Sid

 

[Nickmo82]

Here's hoping KK, GP and BO are all still a part of the organisation by day's end.

 

[McRanger92]

Im going to laugh when we get eliminated due to a lack of secondary scoring when Kakko puts up 1 goal and 2 assists in 14 games.

 

[GAGLine]

I'm sad with this deadline because I think we are close. But it seems like there's 2 things going on.

1)Did Dolan truly tell Drury he can't trade our first this year? We will eventually find out either way.

2)Who do we honestly have to move? If the top prospects are out, then it's essentially Jones and Robertson.

Which leads to a deadline where we get a depth player for a few picks. Wennberg might be it folks.

1) It has been reported that it isn't true.
2) Perreault and Othmann are out, but that still leaves Sykora, Berard, Laba, Lamb, Chmelar, Fortescue, Barker, etc. There is some quality there, just not as much as our top 2. That's not to say that we will or should trade any of them, but we have some assets to work with besides our 1st round pick.

Wennberg definitely won't be the only move we make. You don't pay for retention and then not use the space you purposely kept open.

 

[dshea19]

I will say what I have said before: adding BIG pieces at the deadline rarely, if ever, gets the team a championship. If anything, the deadline is about filling in the holes and creating depth for the long war ahead. Championships are created during the offseason at the draft, free agency, and hockey trades to make more drastic changes. If you are thinking about fundamentally altering your team at the deadline, your team was never good enough to win.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

Chychrun is the move. The forwards arent needle movers outside of Buch. Chychrun is the type of D every team covets. Young minute eater on a good contract and will be UFA at an age you have no problem extending if his play warrants. Gus will come out of the lineup but if you're worried about injuries to Lindy and Chychrun, you need a 7 who can step in seamlessly.

Chychrun-Fox
Miller-Schneider

As the top 4 for the next 5 years? Hell yeah brother.

Find a way to get both haha

Kreider-Mika-Buch
Panarin-Trocheck-Laf
Cuylle-Wenberg-Kakko
Vesey-Goodrow-Brodz

Chychrun-Fox
Miller-Trouba
Gus-Schneider

 

[DanielBrassard]

problem is the rangers have zero 2nds for the next 3 years, so any rental who might actually be useful would cost a 1st. That is not a good idea. Thats why Buch is the only player who might be available that is interesting. I like Eberle but not interested in moving 1sts for rentals again.

 

[McRanger92]

Stamkos and Point were better than any center we have.

Stamkos wasnt a center for either cup run. He didnt even play in the first one aside from 1 shift in the Final

 

[jay from jersey]

It tells me our organizational depth kinda sucks after Perrault and Othmann.



We saw the Vatrano show here already and it's not worth a single first. Is he suddenly going to be way better playing with Mika and Kreider this time? Doubt it.

So we can't take his past performance here as an indicator, we can't take his whole year in Anaheim sucking at 5v5 as an indicator... what can we take?

If for no other reason there are too many red flags to give up a first. And we don't have any seconds left to give.

Fully agree with this… vatrano was fine for a 4th when we got him. But once tampas bigger players dug in, that line was totally negated and physically overmatched.
Don’t let good stats on a bottom dweller team and a higher the normal shooting % trick ya.
Granted the team was also gassed for the prior 2 long series, but I wouldn’t count on getting lightning in a bottle and regaining the magic with those 2 again.
I’d stay away from vatrano…

 

[McRanger92]

Fully agree with this… vatrano was fine for a 4th when we got him. But once tampas bigger players dug in, that line was totally negated and physically overmatched.
Don’t let good stats on a bottom dweller team and a higher the normal shooting % trick ya.
Granted the team was also gassed for the prior 2 long series, but I wouldn’t count on getting lightning in a bottle and regaining the magic with those 2 again.
I’d stay away from vatrano…

That the thing about Vatrano, it does not scream Drury move. And he has already rebuffed the Ducks for months. Maybe he is cooking something up that we havent thought of? Idk

 

[irishlaxburger2]

Stamkos wasnt a center for either cup run. He didnt even play in the first one aside from 1 shift in the Final

If anything, that only supports my point further. They were so much better down the middle than we are that they didn't even need to play a guy - who is a better center than anything we have - at the position.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

Im going to laugh when we get eliminated due to a lack of secondary scoring when Kakko puts up 1 goal and 2 assists in 14 games.

If the forward lines are constructed correctly you can bring in another RW and Kakko is in more of a shutdown role.

With Wennberg in the fold I think Kakko and Cuylle could see some more dangerous opportunities, but if the bottom six is that line and some combination of Vesey-Goodrow-Brodz-Edstrom, you could absolutely be right.

They will need a guy or two to step up and get some big goals. My vote would be Vesey and Cuylle. A lot would rest on Wennberg and Kakko becoming something. If Drury gets lucky there, then a lot changes for this clubs chances.

 

[NYR Viper]

I'm pretty happy Drury didn't unload that many assets for Guentzel. They weren't the high end pieces but I'd be pretty pissed if they traded Sykora + Laba + Garand + picks for a rental when they couldn't discuss a contract with him ahead of time.

If the forward lines are constructed correctly you can bring in another RW and Kakko is in more of a shutdown role.

With Wennberg in the fold I think Kakko and Cuylle could see some more dangerous opportunities, but if the bottom six is that line and some combination of Vesey-Goodrow-Brodz-Edstrom, you could absolutely be right.

They will need a guy or two to step up and get some big goals. My vote would be Vesey and Cuylle. A lot would rest on Wennberg and Kakko becoming something.

If Edstrom plays, he could be a wild card. When the ice is hard to come by in front, size is paramount.

 

[McRanger92]

If anything, that only supports my point further. They were so much better down the middle than we are that they didn't even need to play a guy - who is a better center than anything we have - at the position.

I think the analytics folks would tell you Stamkos didnt play C because he wasnt that good at it. Either way, my point is that everyone saying our core isnt good enough. Nobody's core is good enough until they win. There is 0 reason why the Rangers can't. Not saying you do, but there is a loser mindset among Ranger fans.

 

[Anthony5967]

Does Laviolette use the Wennberg line as a matchup line now? Or does he trust Goodrow's line to do the trick. Goodrow line should play 8 mins in playoffs and be used to bang bodies and get snarly.

 

[savebyrichter94]

Would anyone take Zucc at 50%? Just curious

 

[duhmetreE]

2 1sts, Goodrow and Othmman for Batherson and Chychrun

 

[NYR Viper]

Does Laviolette use the Wennberg line as a matchup line now? Or does he trust Goodrow's line to do the trick. Goodrow line should play 8 mins in playoffs and be used to bang bodies and get snarly.

And be primary PKers. Goodrow and Vesey should be PK 1.

Would anyone take Zucc at 50%? Just curious

What's the cost? Zucc would be awesome

 

[McRanger92]

If the forward lines are constructed correctly you can bring in another RW and Kakko is in more of a shutdown role.

With Wennberg in the fold I think Kakko and Cuylle could see some more dangerous opportunities, but if the bottom six is that line and some combination of Vesey-Goodrow-Brodz-Edstrom, you could absolutely be right.

They will need a guy or two to step up and get some big goals. My vote would be Vesey and Cuylle. A lot would rest on Wennberg and Kakko becoming something. If Drury gets lucky there, then a lot changes for this clubs chances.

Cuylle i think is a 16 game player but Vesey couldnt hit water if he fell out of a boat. There is a reason half his goals are empty netters. I love the guy but an offense out of him is gravy.

If we want a guy who does all of the good away from the puck stuff like Vesey but can actual produce at a top 6 level, call Dubas about Reilly Smith.

 

[savebyrichter94]

And be primary PKers. Goodrow and Vesey should be PK 1.



What's the cost? Zucc would be awesome

Not sure but for some reason something tells me not to rule him out

 

[NYR Viper]

Pittsburgh is over the cap, right? That would indicate a move coming. Perhaps Smith or a trade of Bunting elsewhere?

 

[McRanger92]

And be primary PKers. Goodrow and Vesey should be PK 1.



What's the cost? Zucc would be awesome

Linda Cohn tweeted about Zucc & Vatrano today. Shes more of a fan than an insider but I found that odd. Is Zucc really what we need? I feel like he wants to come back to NY less than Buch. He was the OG RW on Meeka and Kreider's wing though.

 

[aufheben]

I think the analytics folks would tell you Stamkos didnt play C because he wasnt that good at it. Either way, my point is that everyone saying our core isnt good enough. Nobody's core is good enough until they win. There is 0 reason why the Rangers can't. Not saying you do, but there is a loser mindset among Ranger fans.

You’re just saying it’s not impossible. There are plenty of reasons why they probably won’t.

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Pittsburgh is over the cap, right? That would indicate a move coming. Perhaps Smith or a trade of Bunting elsewhere?

Yeah either they have to move salary or move Rust to LTIR by 5pm today

 

[Clark Kellogg]

One person’s opinion:

To Ottawa- Braden Schneider

To NY- Jacob Chychrun 50%
Shane Pinto
2024 2nd round pick

Make the offer. If Ottawa hangs up the phone, oh well.

Jacob Chychrun has been playing RD for a majority of the year because Senators are loaded at LD.

Chychrun wants out of Ottawa.

Senators get a cost controlled Canadian stud RD.

Rangers get a top 6 young NY forward and a LD to shore up that side and gives them Lucky Lindgren protection.

Scanlin is ready. He’s a big physical steady d-man who has been playing RD since the end of last season.

Since Trouba doesn’t seem to be going anywhere why not turn an asset who is stuck on our 3rd pair to address current and future needs.