Patriots/NFL 2024 Regular Season: Part II - The Patriots will have the No. 4 pick in the draft - Mayo Fired

[Troublesome 85]

If the players actual won games or showed improvement maybe they would have room to complain about the boos.

But since early in the season the players have displayed nothing but egos and most suck ass

 

[GatorMike]

The Patriots’ head coaching job isn’t officially open, but it’s definitely on the radar for people around the league. I’d go as far as to say it’s the job a lot of coaching candidates are eyeing. Why? Drake Maye.​

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If you’re trying to predict where the top coaching candidates will land, look no further than the teams with quarterbacks who have the potential to win big. Those organizations are always the most appealing. I asked three general managers where they thought Maye would land if he were in this upcoming draft; all three said No. 1 overall.​

IF the Krafts were to move on from Mayo and Wolfe, a team that features Drake Maye and Christian Gonzalez as your building blocks with the #1 overall pick, and $115 million in effective cap space would be very attractive to a lot of potential candidates.

 

[CDJ]

Ben Johnson

Manifest

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

The Patriots’ head coaching job isn’t officially open, but it’s definitely on the radar for people around the league. I’d go as far as to say it’s the job a lot of coaching candidates are eyeing. Why? Drake Maye.​

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If you’re trying to predict where the top coaching candidates will land, look no further than the teams with quarterbacks who have the potential to win big. Those organizations are always the most appealing. I asked three general managers where they thought Maye would land if he were in this upcoming draft; all three said No. 1 overall.​

IF the Krafts were to move on from Mayo and Wolfe, a team that features Drake Maye and Christian Gonzalez as your building blocks with the #1 overall pick, and $115 million in effective cap space would be very attractive to a lot of potential candidates.

Normally yes, but the league knows Bob won't spend money on players or building a true support staff.

 

[ON3M4N]

Dollar Bob Kraft deserves everything he gets on Sunday.

I'm curious where the narrative that Kraft is cheap comes from. Have there been reports that he's said no to signing players because of how much they'd cost? I haven't. In fact, the Patriots offer for Ridley ~$22 million a season, but he ended up signing with Tennessee for $23 million. They were ready pay Aiyuk $30+ million a year, but he didn't want to come to New England.

I don't think it's Kraft is cheap as much as it's New England isn't a preferred destination anymore.

 

[Troublesome 85]

I'm curious where the narrative that Kraft is cheap comes from. Have there been reports that he's said no to signing players because of how much they'd cost? I haven't. In fact, the Patriots offer for Ridley ~$22 million a season, but he ended up signing with Tennessee for $23 million. They were ready pay Aiyuk $30+ million a year, but he didn't want to come to New England.

I don't think it's Kraft is cheap as much as it's New England isn't a preferred destination anymore.

Um lol

They have the worst facilities in the league and dont spend on sports science

 

[CDJ]

I'm curious where the narrative that Kraft is cheap comes from. Have there been reports that he's said no to signing players because of how much they'd cost? I haven't. In fact, the Patriots offer for Ridley ~$22 million a season, but he ended up signing with Tennessee for $23 million. They were ready pay Aiyuk $30+ million a year, but he didn't want to come to New England.

I don't think it's Kraft is cheap as much as it's New England isn't a preferred destination anymore.

 

[Oates2Neely]

Kraft is still paying Belichick & staff. He’s now paying Mayo & his staff. If he fires Mayo & crew he will have to pay a new coach and his staff. Not sure if Bert Breer but someone on Sports Hub mentioned yesterday the cost of paying 3 coaches + staff would be well over 100 million dollars. I don’t see it happening. Not this owner. The same owner whose player facilities were rated the worst in the league by players. The same owner whom refuses to provide an NFL operations staff similar to almost every team in the league. Add in the NFL lawsuit & RKK’s desperation to get into the HOF. I just don’t see it. I hope I’m wrong. My money is on Mayo returning.

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

I'm curious where the narrative that Kraft is cheap comes from. Have there been reports that he's said no to signing players because of how much they'd cost? I haven't. In fact, the Patriots offer for Ridley ~$22 million a season, but he ended up signing with Tennessee for $23 million. They were ready pay Aiyuk $30+ million a year, but he didn't want to come to New England.

I don't think it's Kraft is cheap as much as it's New England isn't a preferred destination anymore.

Besides being at the literal bottom of the league in ops and facilities spending and entering the season with $50m in cap space and zero impact signings?

 

[Johnnyduke]

I'm curious where the narrative that Kraft is cheap comes from. Have there been reports that he's said no to signing players because of how much they'd cost? I haven't. In fact, the Patriots offer for Ridley ~$22 million a season, but he ended up signing with Tennessee for $23 million. They were ready pay Aiyuk $30+ million a year, but he didn't want to come to New England.

I don't think it's Kraft is cheap as much as it's New England isn't a preferred destination anymore.

I mean it is well documented that even in Brady years when this was an attractive destination the Pats were always relatively low in cash spending. But Kraft had Belichick as a shield for that.

 

[Smitty93]

Kraft is still paying Belichick & staff. He’s now paying Mayo & his staff. If he fires Mayo & crew he will have to pay a new coach and his staff. Not sure if Bert Breer but someone on Sports Hub mentioned yesterday the cost of paying 3 coaches + staff would be well over 100 million dollars. I don’t see it happening. Not this owner. The same owner whose player facilities were rated the worst in the league by players. The same owner whom refuses to provide an NFL operations staff similar to almost every team in the league. Add in the NFL lawsuit & RKK’s desperation to get into the HOF. I just don’t see it. I hope I’m wrong. My money is on Mayo returning.

When Belichick signed his last extension, it wasn't clear whether it went past 2024, so it's possible Kraft doesn't owe him anymore money.

I'm still inclined to agree with you that Kraft isn't willing to pay for multiple coaching staffs simultaneously, though one of his advisors may say that the financial damage of another season of Mayo & Co. may cost more than replacing him now.

 

[rfournier103]

I'm curious where the narrative that Kraft is cheap comes from. Have there been reports that he's said no to signing players because of how much they'd cost? I haven't. In fact, the Patriots offer for Ridley ~$22 million a season, but he ended up signing with Tennessee for $23 million. They were ready pay Aiyuk $30+ million a year, but he didn't want to come to New England.

I don't think it's Kraft is cheap as much as it's New England isn't a preferred destination anymore.

Billionaire Bob being cheap isn’t a narrative, it’s a fact. The previous responses to your post should be enough to illustrate that.

I have given Bob Kraft a pass on pretty much every blunder he’s ever made made since he’s bought the team because he swooped in and saved the Patriots from being moved to St. Louis when NOBODY else was going to lift a finger to stop the move. I have more than paid him back with my time, money and patience over the last thirty years.

He’s a billionaire who runs his NFL franchise like it’s a corner store in a town with one stoplight. And his fragile ego is pathetic. He’s a grown-ass man with billions of dollars and an insatiable need for validation. Ironically, that’s the one thing his hoarded money will never buy.

I’m sure Bob knows he can’t take his cash with him, and I hope that he realizes that the less he invests in this team, the more he will turn the once-loyal fans against him. Then, someday after he goes off to that big luxury box in the sky, he will have neither the respect of the Patriots fandom or his money. And then, he will have nothing.

 

[ON3M4N]

Funny how many are pointing to the facilities, but when people talk about Kraft being cheap it's typically more about how much cap space they have. People realize that Kraft isn't the GM right? He signs checks, not players.

There have been ZERO report of him telling his GM they can't spend on players.

According to the NFLPA they Patriots graded below average with players in....

Weight Room
Treatment of Families
Team Travel

Basically players feel like the weight room isn't big enough and they want new equipment. They aren't happy the Patriots don't offer a family room or daycare. They team has a private plane for games, so I'm surprised they rated as a D in Team Travel.

The day Kraft tells his GM that he can't sign players is the day I'll call him cheap.

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

Pretty sure you can add Cleveland to that list.

God I hope not.

 

[Dreghorn2]

I'd be shocked if they fire Pierce....unless it's to hire Deion.

Baby Huey Davis isn't independently wealthy. His wealth is 100% the team, so unless he's going to sell he's limited on what he can spend. And how many head coaches is he really going to pay at once? I believe they are currently at 3 with Gruden and Daniels still on the books through 2027.

Just a quick note about Mark Davis.

He recently sold 10.5% of the Raiders to Brady's group with a small piece for Richard Seymour and 2 7.5% interests to private equity groups for around a billion dollars.

In addition the Raiders stadium is the 2nd highest revenue generating facility in the NFL trailing only AT&T Stadium in Dallas and Davis keeps every penny.

Mark Davis has plenty of money. His move to Vegas was a stunning financial windfall.

 

[EverettMike]

Just a quick note about Mark Davis.

He recently sold 10.5% of the Raiders to Brady's group with a small piece for Richard Seymour and 2 7.5% interests to private equity groups for around a billion dollars.

In addition the Raiders stadium is the 2nd highest revenue generating facility in the NFL trailing only AT&T Stadium in Dallas and Davis keeps every penny.

Mark Davis has plenty of money. His move to Vegas was a stunning financial windfall.

Oh, for sure. Believe it's the biggest boondoggle in American "sports stadium socialism for billionaires" ever. Vegas got absolutely f***ed.

 

[CDJ]

Funny how many are pointing to the facilities, but when people talk about Kraft being cheap it's typically more about how much cap space they have. People realize that Kraft isn't the GM right? He signs checks, not players.

There have been ZERO report of him telling his GM they can't spend on players.

According to the NFLPA they Patriots graded below average with players in....

Weight Room
Treatment of Families
Team Travel

Basically players feel like the weight room isn't big enough and they want new equipment. They aren't happy the Patriots don't offer a family room or daycare. They team has a private plane for games, so I'm surprised they rated as a D in Team Travel.

The day Kraft tells his GM that he can't sign players is the day I'll call him cheap.

Do you think he would openly do that or something?

Numbers don’t lie, he’s spent the least amount of cash of all owners in the last 10 years.

 

[BigGoalBrad]

Oh, for sure. Believe it's the biggest boondoggle in American "sports stadium socialism for billionaires" ever. Vegas got absolutely f***ed.

They haven't exactly stopped building them in Vegas though and I think another is coming after the As even without an NBA team.

Younger people don't even gamble that much but the Vegas bubble isn't popping as a vacation destination. I guess it's being done on the backs of $30 mixed drinks.

Directs from Boston get stupidly expensive if you don't book 3+ months out.

Taking a piss at halftime of the half sold UNLV Syracuse game was worse than the Garden I had to run past security in two different private lounges to get to a urinal the concourse had one open line was hundreds deep. Would love to go back in the Drake Maye era.

Hahaha Crappie.

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

Oh, for sure. Believe it's the biggest boondoggle in American "sports stadium socialism for billionaires" ever. Vegas got absolutely f***ed.

Vegas residents don't pay for the stadium, the tourists do. The public portion is paid solely by a tax on all hotel rooms booked

 

[DKH]

Mayo comes back he needs to say nothing - vanilla nothings, no jokes no sound bites, nothing

Pick a handful of media you trust and give them info the rest they can read the others columns

21 hours till potential 1 overall

 

[DKH]

Funny how many are pointing to the facilities, but when people talk about Kraft being cheap it's typically more about how much cap space they have. People realize that Kraft isn't the GM right? He signs checks, not players.

There have been ZERO report of him telling his GM they can't spend on players.

According to the NFLPA they Patriots graded below average with players in....

Weight Room
Treatment of Families
Team Travel

Basically players feel like the weight room isn't big enough and they want new equipment. They aren't happy the Patriots don't offer a family room or daycare. They team has a private plane for games, so I'm surprised they rated as a D in Team Travel.

The day Kraft tells his GM that he can't sign players is the day I'll call him cheap.

I’ll believe Phil Perry and he said the only players who would come here weren’t attractive to good teams

Hopefully Maye changes that

I keep hearing about Belichick great defense last year and realize people don’t understand they got beat in one month by Tommy DeVito, Sam Howell, and Gardner Minschew. And beat 3 guys released

They had 2 jobs

1. Develop Maye
2. Pick top 5

Congrats

I usually go against everything Ben Volin thinks when it comes to the Patriots

You can get rich betting against him

 

[KOZ37]

I’ll believe Phil Perry and he said the only players who would come here weren’t attractive to good teams

Hopefully Maye changes that

I keep hearing about Belichick great defense last year and realize people don’t understand they got beat in one month by Tommy DeVito, Sam Howell, and Gardner Minschew. And beat 3 guys released

They had 2 jobs

1. Develop Maye
2. Pick top 5

Congrats

I usually go against everything Ben Volin thinks when it comes to the Patriots

You can get rich betting against him

Another thing that attracts players is a good coaching staff. I don't think this is a plus for the Pats as currently constructed.

 

[EverettMike]

Deadspin | The Raiders Robbed Las Vegas In America's Worst Stadium Deal

Deadspin | The Raiders Robbed Las Vegas In America's Worst Stadium Deal

deadspin.com

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

Deadspin | The Raiders Robbed Las Vegas In America's Worst Stadium Deal

Deadspin | The Raiders Robbed Las Vegas In America's Worst Stadium Deal

deadspin.com

At $750 million, it’s the largest direct public subsidy for a stadium ever granted, and Clark County will soon be floating a bond to raise all that money and raising hotel room taxes on the Strip by 0.88% in order to pay back their debt holders over the next 30 years.

 

[LSCII]

Zappe doing Zappe like things already benched. Remember last year when there were people in this thread that thought he was a viable starter? Good times....LOFL