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Prospect Info: 2024 NHL Entry Draft (Ducks pick #3, They didn’t drop! OMG It’s a Miracle!)

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Anaheim4ever

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Gliff said:
I really cant see the Ducks interested in Parekh, and to a lesser extent Buium. If Buium was a RHD then I could see it being more likely. But if they are going to take a LHD you have to assume its either Dickinson or Silayev, and then there are such good options at RHD in Levshunov and Yakemchuk that fit the Ducks need and the identity PV is trying to build.

I hate saying a player "isn't PV's style" but Parekh is probably the most likely to fit that category.
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Even though he's from Laguna Niguel he's all over the place in terms of height and weight which makes me think he's on the lower end of the those measurements as players exaggerate height/weight to improve their stock. Tankathon has him at 5'11 and 165 pounds.
 
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Gliff said:
I really cant see the Ducks interested in Parekh, and to a lesser extent Buium. If Buium was a RHD then I could see it being more likely. But if they are going to take a LHD you have to assume its either Dickinson or Silayev, and then there are such good options at RHD in Levshunov and Yakemchuk that fit the Ducks need and the identity PV is trying to build.

I hate saying a player "isn't PV's style" but Parekh is probably the most likely to fit that category.
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I think Eiserman as well. One dimensional with a lot of question marks
 
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Kalv said:
I think Eiserman as well. One dimensional with a lot of question marks
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Just looked him up, he's also a LHS LW. If he was a righty, we got an extra 1st, and he dropped in the draft he might have been worth reading up for. We need another righty in our top 6 with everyone but Terry being LHS. Remember back when all we had were right hand shots?

Goal scoring is definitely a need, but we just have too many better overall players than Eiserman will likely be.
 
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lwvs84 said:
Just looked him up, he's also a LHS LW. If he was a righty, we got an extra 1st, and he dropped in the draft he might have been worth reading up for. We need another righty in our top 6 with everyone but Terry being LHS. Remember back when all we had were right hand shots?

Goal scoring is definitely a need, but we just have too many better overall players than Eiserman will likely be.
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We have a couple of RW's in the system that might have an outside chance of being a top-6 RW in Perreault and Colangelo.

Perrault has been injury riddled this season in the AHL, but is at a 0.75 ppg rate in only 24 games (18 points). That's the highest ppg rate for our youth group.

Colangelo has had a revival in scoring again after transferring from Northeastern to Western Michigan. He's at 1.27 ppg rate, scoring 15g + 13a in 22 games. His 15 goals rank him tied for 9th overall in the NCAA, two behind Cutter. College Hockey News has Colangelo listed at 6'3 and 208 lbs. That fits "Verbeek's player preference".

In the draft, I'm hoping that RW Emil Hemming might be available with late 1st round pick. He's 6'0.5 - 6'2, 192 lbs, and a goal scorer. His production in Liiga is paltry at 6g + 3a in 30 games. Emil will need to take some time to develop against a men's league, but he's too good for the U20 division with 10g + 6a in only 10 games. For a draftee comparison playing in the same men's league, 5'11 and 181 lbs C/LW Helenius has scored 8g + 16a in 34 games in Liiga. Helenius is a top-10 projection. Hemming started off late in the first round, around picks 27-32, but has steadily risen to pick 17 by TSN's Craig Button.
 
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lwvs84 said:
Just looked him up, he's also a LHS LW. If he was a righty, we got an extra 1st, and he dropped in the draft he might have been worth reading up for. We need another righty in our top 6 with everyone but Terry being LHS. Remember back when all we had were right hand shots?

Goal scoring is definitely a need, but we just have too many better overall players than Eiserman will likely be.
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Another left shot but Liam Greentree has scoring potential as well, bigger kid and high IQ. Brock Otten thinks he can be another Jason Robertson if he improves his skating.



Watch the lane he takes here, delaying across ice to find a quiet pocket of ice on his strong side. Then the perfectly placed shot low far blocker side. On the extended replay you can see he made a smart defensive read to create the sequence.
 
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Stole this clip that showcases Silayev's skating and reach. Very impressive.


 
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Stole this clip that showcases Silayev's skating and reach. Very impressive.


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He agility is better then Power was in his draft year. Impressive.

I don’t really care about the points he got at the start of the year, but it is a little concerning his ice time has dropped so much since the start of the year. He was playing about 18 per game but the last like 15 games he has been under 15 mins in all but 3 games and down to 12 in most games.
 

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Yakemchuk with two more goals so far today...at the rate he's going to get some top 5-7 consideration in the final draft rankings...
 
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WhatTheDuck said:


That goal was nasty. A 6'3 RHD with that talent definitely isn't lasting too long on draft day
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Would be nice to have a goal scoring Dman like Visnovsky again. There isn't too many with the size, skill and shot as a RD.

Mintyukov/Yakemechuk
Zellweger/Luneau
LaCombe/Vaak/Hinds/Warren/Helleson
 
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Wow, looking back at Wheeler's ranking from 2020. Makes you think how much emotion to put into fighting about random lists on the internet.

Scott Wheeler mid season ranking

Scott Wheeler has published his midseason ranking (there is a paywall). Here is the top 15: 1. Macklin Celebrini 2. Artyom Levshunov 3. Cole Eiserman 4. Ivan Demidov 5. Anton Silayev 6. Zayne Parekh 7. Zeev Buium 8. Sam Dickinson 9. Berkly Catton 10. Konsta Helenius 11. Cayden Lindstrom 12...
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In general, I usually like to "defend" the writers because they do a lot of work and it's impossible for them to be right. So I usually only enjoy the writeups. That's why I love the EP draft guide, they have so much stuff in there and the ranking is supported with so much info that everyone can draw their own conclusions – I know there are other guides there as well.
 
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I've said it before and will say it again, none of these individual writers have the time to be out scouting each one of these prospects. I lean towards the lists that are collaborative efforts between area scouts (EP for example) or the one's that openly admit they are ranking based on the opinions of reputable third party sources (Bob McK). The latter having spent several decades conversing with NHL scouts, has nailed down how to gauge their excitement level about prospects more than anyone.

Wheeler's lists seem to end up being heavily influenced by statistics, and that will lead to missing those prospects who scouts see as having the untapped potential to pop off in the future.
 
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WhatTheDuck said:
I've said it before and will say it again, none of these individual writers have the time to be out scouting each one of these prospects. I lean towards the lists that are collaborative efforts between area scouts (EP for example) or the one's that openly admit they are ranking based on the opinions of reputable third party sources (Bob McK). The latter having spent several decades conversing with NHL scouts, has nailed down how to gauge their excitement level about prospects more than anyone.

Wheeler's lists seem to end up being heavily influenced by statistics, and that will lead to missing those prospects who scouts see as having the untapped potential to pop off in the future.
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Very well put. My logic is the same.
 

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If we go d I’m pretty confident PV priorities size/skating over skill and scoring. We do have a lot of offensive d so I’m not necessarily against that approach but a lot of times those picks are less sexy.
 
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WhatTheDuck said:

1. Macklin Celebrini
2. Artyom Levshunov
3. Cole Eiserman
4. Ivan Demidov
5. Anton Silayev
6. Zayne Parekh
7. Zeev Buium
8. Sam Dickinson
9. Berkly Catton
10. Konsta Helenius
11. Cayden Lindstrom
12. Carter Yakemchuk
13. Michael Brandsegg-Nygard
14. Liam Greentree
15. Trevor Connelly
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=== Tier 1 ===
1. Macklin Celebrini

=== Tier 2 ===
2. Artyom Levshunov
3. Cole Eiserman
4. Ivan Demidov

=== Tier 3 ===
5. Anton Silayev
6. Zayne Parekh
7. Zeev Buium
8. Sam Dickinson
9. Berkly Catton
10. Konsta Helenius
11. Cayden Lindstrom

=== Tier 4 ===
12. Carter Yakemchuk
13. Michael Brandsegg-Nygard
14. Liam Greentree
15. Trevor Connelly
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Wheeler's tiers are probably just talent tiers and not similar to Pronman's tiers such as tier 1 = generational. Celebrini isn't on Bedard level.
 
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