Our new draft strategy should be to draft as many Pavels as we can
Pavel Moysevich - Stats, Contract, Salary & More
Eliteprospects.com hockey player profile of Pavel Moysevich, 2004-09-29 Minsk, BLR Belarus. Most recently in the KHL with SKA St. Petersburg. Complete player biography and stats.www.eliteprospects.com
Second year of eligibility but now one of the top ranked EU goalies. Not difficult to see why, 6'5 + and check out those early KHL numbers
Prospect Info: 2024 NHL Entry Draft (Ducks pick #3, They didn’t drop! OMG It’s a Miracle!)
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These are Eiserman's stats.... scary stuff for a top 10 prospect.
Exactly why he is plummeting. He has regressed in most areas. Unless he destroys the u18 I doubt he goes too 10.
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I have a strong feeling Verbeek wants to draft Silayev 6'7 if given the chance. He takes after Yzerman who took both Seider 6'4 and Edvinsson 6'6 and loves big defenders.
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To be fair, Seider was only available at his draft position because of the bias against players from smaller hockey countries. I've seen him play in the DEL all season long prior to his draft, and he was already a legit top-4 defenseman for the championship team back then. Had he been born in Canada and played the way he played with a Canadian citizenship, even in the DEL, would he have been taken #1 or #2. Yzerman was lucky as hell to get him with #6.
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Even with the KHL waiting period i'd rather have Silayev over Dicky. Both are LD but one brings something you rarely see with that size and shot and already playing against men in KHL. Dicky will need another year developing anyways, it'd only be an extra year for Silayev before he can arrive from KHL.
Him possessing a big shot is a bonus, doesn't Owen Power still have a mediocre shot ?
He's also no gentle giant like Tyler Myers and Dougie Hamilton, he'll lay down some really big hits as posted in this thread earlier. I remember Shea Weber always killed the Ducks in the playoffs when he was with the Predators, he can be the Ducks version of Weber and just wreck people with his slap shot lol when they try to block it. Then how Weber was so powerful with clean hits that did a lot of damage.
From all I've read about him, he's very opposite of what Pat seems to pick
Russian factor still matters. He isn’t like Minty who was in Canada.
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Probably more of a factor right now than we have grown accustomed to in the last two or three decades. Putin is hell bent on keeping their best at home.
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Here is a quote from Daily Faceoff. The next Victor Hedman sounds like a Verbeek guy
Most of the early season shine has worn off, but Silayev now has the highest-scoring output by a U-18 skater in KHL history (Michkov was a U-19 player last year) after passing Vladimir Tarasenko with his 11th point late last month. The 6-foot-7 blueliner is averaging just under 20 minutes a night while blocking shots, landing hits and showing off great skating for his size. From talking to scouts recently, they think he’s the next Victor Hedman. That’s quite the praise and a reason why many have him as the first defenseman taken this year.
Verbeek has said he isn't scared to pick russians
You quoted a post about Eiserman not being a PV guy.
Ya that doesn’t really mean anything. What is he supposed to say? “We are scared of KHL guys since they have leverage over us”?
The Ducks have drafted 1 KHL guy in like 20 years and it was a 5th round pick. PV has been GM for 2 years and still no KHL guys.
Until we invest actual draft capital into the KHL guys I think it’s still safe to assume it knocks them down our board.
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I think there is little to no chance we draft him with a pick in the top 5…. I don’t think PV can wait for a player to come over from Russia…. He needs help in the line up asap
I believe Silayev can come over in 2 years (start of 26-27 season) and be close to NHL ready. Any pick the Ducks make outside of Celebrini would (optimistically) be on the same timeline. Given that the Ducks will likely be picking 4 or 5, I'd take him there.
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oh thought he was 3…..
I do worry bout those unicorn type players with high draft picks…. I assume if you draft silayev you’re hoping for hedman/pronger hybrid. But silayev def been climbing up the board lately
Who do you have before silayev(obviously celebrini at 1), would you take him at 2? This draft is wide open after celebrini…. I like levshunov at 2, but after that idk how I rank 3-10
Quite honestly I don't think anyone in this draft is worthy of a top 3 pick outside of Celebrini. If I was picking today I'd probably pick in the following order (after Celebrini): Dickinson, Lindstrom, Levshunov/Silayev (tie). After that top 5, I'd be picking out of a hat!
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Well hopefully we just win the lottery….. I feel like there’s going to be a lot of overthinking and second guessing after first pick… tho I’m very high on levshunov
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All physically developed kids with good size in that group. The recent trend seems to have an increasing number of early picks cracking the NHL by their D+2 season. To the contrary of your previous post, I won't be surprised at all if two or three of those others are in the NHL by next year or the one following.
Levshunov especially being a late bday 05 born, I won't be surprised if his development track is similar to Mintyukov in that by mid way through D+1 year and thereafter, he'll look like a man amongst boys playing at any level that isn't the NHL. D+2 straight to the NHL for good. Sometimes they are just best off figuring it out at the highest level.
Dickinson and Lindstrom being 06 born CHL players, have two more seasons where they have to be either in the NHL or CHL - I have my doubts that they both play two more seasons of junior. Likely at least see their 9 games or more by year two.
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Offensively speaking he's found another level of late. 5G 11A and +14 in his last ten games (41P in 42 games for the season)
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Lev already looks like a man amongst boys for his first season in the NCAA. Here's small excerpt from an article by The Athletic on Lev:
He’s seated, but his chest and arms pop out of his workout gear, his head shaved. When he stands, his giant running shoes and long legs further highlight his imposing size.
When you ask his coaches or teammates about it — the unspoken first impression his physique gives off — they laugh or gasp.
“You mean he’s jacked?” jokes assistant coach Mike Towns. “When we first started going down this road, the physical maturity was a concern of ours — this 17-year-old D. And that hasn’t been an issue at all. He sort of has this force field around him where when guys bump into him they fall down.”
Junior Red Savage, who has just passed by him in the hall, says his size was the first thing he noticed about him.
“It’s insane,” Savage says. “I’ve never seen an 18-year-old that big. He’s just a big ball of muscle. He doesn’t have an ounce of fat on him. And he doesn’t understand how big he is sometimes. He’ll just wreck someone in practice without even knowing and just start laughing at the guy.”
I think Lev playing a year in the NCAA makes him advanced physically. If the Ducks draft him, then, hopefully, Verbeek can leave him in the NCAA another season to continue that physical development as well as become even better defensively b/c he's playing against 17-24 year olds in the NCAA instead of 16-20 years in the CHL.
Yeah, I don't disagree with anything you're saying. My assumption with everyone in this draft (sans Celebrini) is that they'll need two years somewhere before playing and contributing in the NHL. They all have flaws/warts that will take time to grow out of.
Korchinski is a perfect example of a D+2 guy in the NHL. He is playing but not really contributing. Makes a lot of rookie mistakes and could only be playing for a team as bad as Chicago. I'm hoping the Ducks aren't Chicago-bad in 25-26. Mintyukov was a pleasant surprise to be ready this early but even he wore down noticeably after a great start.
IF a team has Silayev rated as a Hedman/Chara type of talent I would easily take him even if it meant waiting an extra year to bring him over.
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Yeah that's what I'd expect, maybe one more year back to college and then he'll be ready to apprentice on the job.
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