2024 NHL Draft: WE DID IT, CELEBRINI IS OURS!!!

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Jargon

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Don't look now, but we're 4-5-1 in the last 10. Luckily we're about to go on a brutal road trip where only 1 game (Islanders) is arguably winnable. Meanwhile Perry is super-strangely gone from the Hawks with Hall gone for the season, the Wild are bad, and Columbus remains a tire fire.

Odds are still very good that we finish last, but worse than they were two weeks ago.

On the flip side, it's fun to watch some actual wins, team hockey, and some good play from the youths!

If Chicago wins the lottery again it will be truly infuriating.

But yeah, honestly, the Sharks have looked much better the last two games. They’re still bad but I can see them winning a few surprise games here and there. I’m hoping the Bedard factor will keep Chicago ahead of us though.

If Couture comes back this season and is good, I’d worry a little that we might play ourselves out of a top 3 pick.
 
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This kid is extremely intriguing. 17 year old defenseman from San Diego with 18 points in 14 games for Denver in college hockey so far. EP has him listed at 5'11, 165 but the DU website has him at 6'2, 180. His older brother is a 6'3 220lb Red Wings prospect so it's entirely possible he has grown that much.

If the measurables are accurate I think he merits consideration as high as #2 but it would be amazing if we could scoop him up with the Pittsburgh pick.
I like Buium quite a bit, think he’d be a great target for the Pittsburgh pick. He’s a left shot but I feel like I’ve seen him play the right side.
 
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If Chicago wins the lottery again it will be truly infuriating.

But yeah, honestly, the Sharks have looked much better the last two games. They’re still bad but I can see them winning a few surprise games here and there. I’m hoping the Bedard factor will keep Chicago ahead of us though.

If Couture comes back this season and is good, I’d worry a little that we might play ourselves out of a top 3 pick.
Isn't Chicago out of the running for the #1 since the "won" last year?

I still don't fully understand how that works.
 

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Isn't Chicago out of the running for the #1 since the "won" last year?

I still don't fully understand how that works.
You can win twice in a 5 year span. If Chicago wins either lottery this year, they're ineligible for the next 3.

I think it would be so Sharks to "win" 2 lotteries for 2nd overall picks and miss out on a #1 guy.
 

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You can win twice in a 5 year span. If Chicago wins either lottery this year, they're ineligible for the next 3.

I think it would be so Sharks to "win" 2 lotteries for 2nd overall picks and miss out on a #1 guy.
Especially starting from "no worse than picking 3rd" aka last place.
 

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If I remember correctly, you can't move down more than two years in a row. So if you finish last and win the lottery for #1 that doesn't count toward not being able to win it.
Cool, so they're still in the running this year but can't win either 1 or 2 this year and also win in 2025.

Man... it sure would be nice to get some luck as a franchise in these lotteries.
 

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If I remember correctly, you can't move down more than two years in a row. So if you finish last and win the lottery for #1 that doesn't count toward not being able to win it.
The rules are no team can move up via lottery wins more than twice in a five year period. So Chicago has one down and one to go as does New Jersey. The other two draws did not involve teams moving up draft positions.
 
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The rules are no team can move up via lottery wins more than twice in a five year period. So Chicago has one down and one to go as does New Jersey. The other two draws did not involve teams moving up draft positions.
Yes I meant **move up** (said down because number lower lol) in the draft but exactly what I thought
 

Stewie Griffin

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This draft is wide open right after Celebrini. Really makes the lottery a big deal this year, because who knows what prospect all the teams will have ranked 2.
 

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This draft is wide open right after Celebrini. Really makes the lottery a big deal this year, because who knows what prospect all the teams will have ranked 2.
Anyone know what's happened to Kiviharju? A few seasons back he was seen as a possible #1. Started to slip, but not out of the top 32 as a list like this suggests.
 

jarr92

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This draft is wide open right after Celebrini. Really makes the lottery a big deal this year, because who knows what prospect all the teams will have ranked 2.
If the quality of player at 6 is similar to the quality of player at 2 I’d argue the lottery after #1 becomes less important actually. There’s no Carlsson or Fantilli as consolation prizes.
 
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If the quality of player at 6 is similar to the quality of player at 2 I’d argue the lottery after #1 becomes less important actually. There’s no Carlsson or Fantilli as consolation prizes.
Yeah the odds are at best 25% to get the #1 pick. The most important part about finishing in last place is that the pick is guaranteed top 3. If this draft is wide open from #2-#7 then it is not a good year to care if they get a few extra wins and get #6 pick as opposed to finishing last and most likely getting #3.
 
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LilLeeroy

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Yeah the odds are at best 25% to get the #1 pick. The most important part about finishing in last place is that the pick is guaranteed top 3. If this draft is wide open from #2-#7 then it is not a good year to care if they get a few extra wins and get #6 pick as opposed to finishing last and most likely getting #3.
25.5% chance of getting the #1 pick for being last massive. Almost twice as likely as even just the second to last team.

There is also a massive drop off in production from the forward group after Cole Eiserman (although I guess we should be wary of NTDP production after last year).
 

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I'm on the Zayne train (Zayne Parkeh) for either pick that's not #1. Looking like an stud two way defenseman like Brandt Clarke is shaping up to be.
 
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