GDT: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[Jovavic]

Snatched defeat from the jaws of victory, that was a close one!

 

[tunnelvision]

2024 NHL Draft Ranking Top 32 – November - HockeyProspect.com

HockeyProspect.com is pleased to release our first 2024 NHL Draft Ranking of the season. This list is a top 64 ranking with the top 32 available free and the

hockeyprospect.com

Defensemen in the top-15:

3 Silayev
4 Dickinson
8 Levshunov
9 Yakemchuk
12 Jiricek

 

[majormajor]

2024 NHL Draft Ranking Top 32 – November - HockeyProspect.com

HockeyProspect.com is pleased to release our first 2024 NHL Draft Ranking of the season. This list is a top 64 ranking with the top 32 available free and the

hockeyprospect.com

Defensemen in the top-15:

3 Silayev
4 Dickinson
8 Levshunov
9 Yakemchuk
12 Jiricek

And Cayden Lindstrom #2.

It makes a lot of sense to me. I agree with having Demidov and Eiserman somewhat lower. I'm not sure if there are many better options this year but they definitely feel like lackluster picks if they're taken at #2.

 

[DoingItCoolKiwi]

And Cayden Lindstrom #2.

It makes a lot of sense to me. I agree with having Demidov and Eiserman somewhat lower. I'm not sure if there are many better options this year but they definitely feel like lackluster picks if they're taken at #2.

Interesting to hear that after not checking in for a while. Hadn't even heard of Lindstrom. How does he compare to players with similar draft profile (eg. Byfield/Slafkovsky)?

Whats up with Eiserman? Late birthday, and stats seem to be trending to what Will Smith did a year ago. From outsde he looks like a decent #2, unless the issue is just that he is a midsized goalscoring winger?

 

[majormajor]

Interesting to hear that after not checking in for a while. Hadn't even heard of Lindstrom. How does he compare to players with similar draft profile (eg. Byfield/Slafkovsky)?

He is a lot like Byfield in that they don't really use their 6'5 frames, they're slick skilled players and not very strong. They don't play with long sticks so the reach isn't a big difference either. Maybe Lindstrom will develop his physique better.

Edit: I forgot, I did see this elite prospects profile of Lindstrom, where he shows some good physical defensive engagement.

Whats up with Eiserman? Late birthday, and stats seem to be trending to what Will Smith did a year ago. From outsde he looks like a decent #2, unless the issue is just that he is a midsized goalscoring winger?

He's all finish. Not a versatile player who contributes in other ways.

 

[DoingItCoolKiwi]

He's all finish. Not a versatile player who contributes in other ways.

So a better version of Kemell/Lekkerinmäki? Sounds like a draft day faller, but playing at US NTDP instead of pro league probably helps with keeping the draft stock high

 

[cbjthrowaway]

So a better version of Kemell/Lekkerinmäki? Sounds like a draft day faller, but playing at US NTDP instead of pro league probably helps with keeping the draft stock high

that's the overly-pessimistic way of viewing it.

the more grounded/straightforward comp, imo, is that he's cole caufield with average size. which is a hell of a player.

the overly-optimistic comp is diet pastrnak.

 

[DoingItCoolKiwi]

that's the overly-pessimistic way of viewing it.

the more grounded/straightforward comp, imo, is that he's cole caufield with average size. which is a hell of a player.

the overly-optimistic comp is diet pastrnak.

Didnt really mean to be pessimistic. Both of them are 19 year olds having decent seasons at pro level. No telling how they end up. Just picked them since they are recent picks with similar size and profile. Also both fell relative to public rankings, which i feel has been a recent trend with average sized shooting wingers.

Eeli Tolvanen was another midsized shooter that fell a lot on draft day. He has actually scored really well this year. Looks like a decent pick in the end

 

[ThisIsMyAlibi]

Man, these guys really know how to LOSE!

 

[BB88]

edit

 

[tunnelvision]

I thought this was a noteworthy post by Mark Edwards from HP:

As of today it's the worst group I've ever seen in the OHL and probably the QMJHL as well (HP will turn 20 in 2024) - WHL is easily the strongest league in the CHL this year. Down year for the NTDP and Sweden to name a couple more.

I like the Top 10 overall and some people tend to just rate a draft on the top 10. It falls off reasonably quickly after that IMO.

In general I go league by league compared to what I've seen in years past. It's a down year based on that.

FWIW, I've never heard this many NHL scouts rip a draft class as much as I've heard it this year.

 

[BB88]

edit

 

[BB88]

edit

 

[BB88]

edit

 

[majormajor]

Jarmo's successor might think for example that Provorov, Werenski or Severson aren't necessarily their long-term top-4 defensemen. Nobody is untouchable. None of them are great at playing a shut-down game.

I think with their contracts, the chances that Werenski or Severson get traded are very minimal. You hope that Jiricek, Mateychuk, and company develop strong defensive games, and if not that then try and acquire a Chris Tanev type through trade. I'm not opposed to drafting a defensive D either, but it's far from the only option. It's also not clear that this will be our biggest issue in a couple years. We have a lot of talent and question marks everywhere.

 

[tunnelvision]

I'm not opposed to drafting a defensive D either, but it's far from the only option.

Sure, and drafting isn't the only way to fix your center depth either.

 

[BB88]

I think with their contracts, the chances that Werenski or Severson get traded are very minimal. You hope that Jiricek, Mateychuk, and company develop strong defensive games, and if not that then try and acquire a Chris Tanev type through trade. I'm not opposed to drafting a defensive D either, but it's far from the only option. It's also not clear that this will be our biggest issue in a couple years. We have a lot of talent and question marks everywhere.

I don’t think contract has anything to do with Werenski.

I’d just put my money on Gm’s around the league being much higher on him than HF boards& they wouldn’t trade him.

Also trying to address the lack of defensive Dmen is not good enough reason to pick one with a top5/10 pick.

Anyways they should go for talent/ceiling, no matter the position. I just made the mistake of bringing up another European as an option, who’s game seems to be build for todays NHL/Columbus high work ethic model

But I’ll probably take a timeout from Columbus board, getting pretty toxic these days

 

[Cowumbus]

Cayden Lindstrom is on a heater. 4 points away from his prior year’s total.

 

[cbjthrowaway]

Cayden Lindstrom is on a heater. 4 points away from his prior year’s total.

this is my guy for the 2024 draft. a fantilli-lindstrom-voronkov trio down the middle would be so nasty.

 

[Ice9]

We'll draft 3rd or 4th if we went 0 for the entire way out.

 

[ThisIsMyAlibi]

That’s what you like to see.

 

[Cowumbus]

That’s what you like to see.

View attachment 781157

Unfortunately not really. Unless they are 1OA (maybe 2OA) the player isn’t going to make the team better next year. We need to fix the team, and one player will not do that.

They aren’t going to be as bad as San Jose, Chicago.

 

[Fred Glover]

That’s what you like to see.

View attachment 781157

Here is what I’d like to see: play the kids big minutes and force feed them, giving them a chance to grow
And
the owners fire Jarmo
those two things happening will make this sorry season a success

 

[EDM]

This thread is ridiculous

 

[CBJx614]

That’s what you like to see.

View attachment 781157

The only thing I like about that is that FINALLY Pitt is starting to fall from their two decades of dominance.