Prospect Info: 2024 - #50 OA - LW Nikita Artamonov

[Daeavorn]

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

so he will be better than kaprizov yes?

 

[LakeLivin]

so he will be better than kaprizov yes?

Of course, that's just math!

 

[Unsustainable]

 

[Nikishin al Gaib]

No but seriously how quickly could he come over?

 

[CanesFanBudMan]

He is the guy

 

[chaz4hockey]

Hopefully Chicago next year....

 

[CanesFanBudMan]

Hopefully Chicago next year....

His KHL contract goes through next year. He’s not getting that terminated to go to the AHL.

 

[HisIceness]

No but seriously how quickly could he come over?

2026-27 I think

 

[DaveG]

The way he plays reminds me so much of Guentzel. Like it's uncanny how good both are at finding the soft areas on the ice.

 

[Nikishin al Gaib]

2026-27 I think

Ok so we get Russian defender uberprospect next season, and then potential Russian scoring uberprospect the following season.

I mean, not bad for a franchise that supposedly needs to blow it up, according to the national media

 

[robbieberns]

Really see signs of Guentzel as a comparison in terms of being able to find himself in the right spot to be able to capitalize. If he gets a chance to play in our top 6 with other skill players he’ll feast.

 

[HisIceness]

The way he plays reminds me so much of Guentzel. Like it's uncanny how good both are at finding the soft areas on the ice.

Maybe the front office knew what they were doing after all? Pay 30 year old Guentzel until he's 38 or pay 18 year old Russian Guentzel and have him in his prime.

 

[Borsig]

Maybe the front office knew what they were doing after all? Pay 30 year old Guentzel until he's 38 or pay 18 year old Russian Guentzel and have him in his prime.

He's still several years out though. 2 more years before he can even be here. I'm for an extended window though. I just wish we could get these guys at 21 not 23 or 24

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

He's still several years out though. 2 more years before he can even be here. I'm for an extended window though. I just wish we could get these guys at 21 not 23 or 24

That is part of why we're able to draft these players where we do though. All the Russian prospects we've drafted the last several years are considerably better prospects than their draft positions suggest. The league is just hesitant to draft them based on their talent and is impatient. Glad we're able to take advantage of it and get guys like Nikishin and Arty

 

[Unsustainable]

There was rumors he could be here next season.

 

[To Be Determined]

Ok so we get Russian defender uberprospect next season, and then potential Russian scoring uberprospect the following season.

I mean, not bad for a franchise that supposedly needs to blow it up, according to the national media

sorry, but neither helps us life the cup this year so this is an abject failure by the front office. that's what i learned at the tdl.

 

[CanesFanBudMan]

His KHL team is not great so I could see an agreement to terminate his contract early. I just see that doubtful if the plan is to put him in the AHL instead of the NHL next year.

 

[Nikishin al Gaib]

His KHL team is not great so I could see an agreement to terminate his contract early. I just see that doubtful if the plan is to put him in the AHL instead of the NHL next year.

I mean, he could also come over and just make it impossible for us to play him at the AHL level next year during preseason camp, like Jarvis did. If he's as good as advertised, I wouldn't be shocked to see him find a place right away should he find a way to terminate his contract.

 

[poobags]

That is part of why we're able to draft these players where we do though. All the Russian prospects we've drafted the last several years are considerably better prospects than their draft positions suggest. The league is just hesitant to draft them based on their talent and is impatient. Glad we're able to take advantage of it and get guys like Nikishin and Arty

To be fair we've thrown a lot of Russian darts over the last 5 drafts and Nikishin and Artamonov are our only (presumably) big hits so far. Ponomarev maybe but we drafted him out of the QMJHL although he did spend a little time in Russia after that. I guess a lot of these Russian picks were long term prospects anyways so maybe 5 years is too soon to review.

Edit: Oh and Kotchetkov can't believe I almost forgot.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

To be fair we've thrown a lot of Russian darts over the last 5 drafts and Nikishin and Artamonov are our only (presumably) big hits so far. Ponomarev maybe but we drafted him out of the QMJHL although he did spend a little time in Russia after that. I guess a lot of these Russian picks were long term prospects anyways so maybe 5 years is too soon to review.

Edit: Oh and Kotchetkov can't believe I almost forgot.

The two names that intrigue me as depth prospects in the KHL are Grudinin and Rykov. Grudinin is an interesting defensive prospect, though kind of an oddity in that he's defensively-oriented despite being 5'10". I wouldn't be shocked if he shows up on some team's bottom-pairing one day, especially a team that isn't afraid of giving smaller guys a shot. Rykov is the more prototypical NHL depth prospect in terms of size and skillset, so probably he has a stronger likelihood of making it in the next level.

 

[poobags]

We keep the rights of players drafted out of Russia indefinitely because of the lack of transfer agreement right? Is that why we keep going back to the same well?

 

[DaveG]

We keep the rights of players drafted out of Russia indefinitely because of the lack of transfer agreement right? Is that why we keep going back to the same well?

1 - correct
2 - not necessarily. They still will count against the 90 man reserve list (or did they up that again in the last CBA?) even if not under contract, just won't count against the 50 contract list (since there's no contract obviously). I think the biggest reason is that the KHL just seems to be an under-utilized route for picks right now due to the uncertainty of when they'll come over or even IF they'll come over, and that's before the whole geopolitical situation threw things for a loop. I think it's a matter of we look for market weaknesses and try to exploit, and we have a pretty good Russian scout that we trust.

 

[Unsustainable]