Speculation: 2024/25 Trade Rumours, Speculation etc Thread

[Royale With Cheese]

Read something yesterday by - I think - Mike McIntyre chatting with Ehlers. Nothing I read told me he’s thinking of signing here. I hope I’m wrong on that.

 

[Jet]

It clearly states though that roster limit restrictions are removed after midnight on the day of, so as @Mortimer Snerd said maybe there is some 24hr thing on TDL day or something because many teams have made trades on that day with full rosters and not waived anyone (unless I am just completely mistaken)

I'd imagine the deals aren't officially finalized on tdl day.

 

[DRW204]

I wonder if Lou signs Nelson and then puts Horvat on the market. Lou wasn’t happy signing Horvat to his deal saying it was too much, and in Lou’s defense it is a million or so too much for his production.

Horvat could be a perfect addition by Jets for 2C if he comes available. He has trade protection so there’s that.

Horvat has a NTC so he decides when and where he gets dealt.

I do like Palmieri from NYI and think he'll be a solid top 9 addition.

 

[surixon]

I will say I liked Gazdec's suggestion of getting Farraro for the bottom pairing.

 

[Jets 31]

You may think this is nuts but what if Chevy had a meeting with our players and asked them if they want any help at the deadline ? I just don't know about screwing with this chemistry we have had all season. Sign Ehlers and Pionk and go to war with the ones that got us here mentality.

 

[Whileee]

I will say I liked Gazdec's suggestion of getting Farraro for the bottom pairing.

I'm not so sure about him. He looks okay superficially, but his on-ice shot metrics are really bad. Hard to assess these on awful teams, though.

I'd be much more enthusiastic about Walman. He'd be expensive, but he's really good. He'd fill in on the top pairs of needed due to injuries.

 

[surixon]

I'm not so sure about him. He looks okay superficially, but his on-ice shot metrics are really bad. Hard to assess these on awful teams, though.

I'd be much more enthusiastic about Walman. He'd be expensive, but he's really good. He'd fill in on the top pairs of needed due to injuries.

Gotcha.

 

[Whileee]

Gotcha.

 

[CanMerc]

TSN Hockey Insider Chris Johnston and Jonas Siegel believe price tag on Brayden Schenn could be a package of a first-round pick, a top prospect, and perhaps another small add as well.
At that price…no thank you

 

[surixon]

TSN Hockey Insider Chris Johnston and Jonas Siegel believe price tag on Brayden Schenn could be a package of a first-round pick, a top prospect, and perhaps another small add as well.
At that price…no thank you

His contract is just too prohibitive at his age.

 

[DRW204]

You may think this is nuts but what if Chevy had a meeting with our players and asked them if they want any help at the deadline ? I just don't know about screwing with this chemistry we have had all season. Sign Ehlers and Pionk and go to war with the ones that got us here mentality.

It's not nuts.

 

[CanMerc]

You may think this is nuts but what if Chevy had a meeting with our players and asked them if they want any help at the deadline ? I just don't know about screwing with this chemistry we have had all season. Sign Ehlers and Pionk and go to war with the ones that got us here mentality.

I still say we need a 2C…but I guess we’ll see.

 

[Huffer]

Fine. Look at his stats last year too. Not bad - but not top prospect worthy. But, you say Moose were bad last year too. Okay, keep going back. His D+1 in the Dub was pretty good, but not outstanding. Then there were several years before that in Finland that were very poor. We have excuses for that too.

If he is so good, when does he start achieving in spite of the less than ideal circumstances?

This is his D+3 season. If he is going to make it in the top 6 he should be killing it this year in the A. Players who do make top 6 in the NHL succeed in the A even on bad teams.

Yes, we can look at last year. He was an AHL All Star at 20 years old. And it depends on what you want to define as "top prospect". I don't remember anyone saying he's an A prospect, some blue chip that can't miss. But yes, after he was an AHL All Star last year at 20 years old, putting up .86 PPG, and 2nd overall for points in the AHL for rookies, people now pointing to this season only when the Moose are terrible is short sighted.

As for his junior years, he had a 1.46 PPG in the DUB in his D+1. Yager was 1.66 in his D+1 on a stacked Moose Jaw team, and is currently 1.61 PPG overall this year (including Moose Jaw and Lethbridge). And I see some trying to pencil him in as the Jets 2C next year.

I am interested to know the list of 21 year old players who kill it on teams with next to no offensive talent, where (at this point in the season) their team has scored a total of 110 goals, which is dead last in the AHL, and second last is 129.

To be clear, my position is not that Lambert is some elite can't miss prospect. What I said, is that to only use this season as an evaluation for him is pretty short sighted, as it seems like some are willing to punt him based on this most recent season.

 

[BobTheSolarsystem]

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Still baffling how detroit let walman go

 

[Tasteless Beaver]

I will say I liked Gazdec's suggestion of getting Farraro for the bottom pairing.

Anything that Gazdic says on TV - do the opposite. His trade takes for the Jets have not been constructive and Ferraro is no exception.

 

[Mad Dog Tannen]

Yes, we can look at last year. He was an AHL All Star at 20 years old. And it depends on what you want to define as "top prospect". I don't remember anyone saying he's an A prospect, some blue chip that can't miss. But yes, after he was an AHL All Star last year at 20 years old, putting up .86 PPG, and 2nd overall for points in the AHL for rookies, people now pointing to this season only when the Moose are terrible is short sighted.

As for his junior years, he had a 1.46 PPG in the DUB in his D+1. Yager was 1.66 in his D+1 on a stacked Moose Jaw team, and is currently 1.61 PPG overall this year (including Moose Jaw and Lethbridge). And I see some trying to pencil him in as the Jets 2C next year.

I am interested to know the list of 21 year old players who kill it on teams with next to no offensive talent, where (at this point in the season) their team has scored a total of 110 goals, which is dead last in the AHL, and second last is 129.

To be clear, my position is not that Lambert is some elite can't miss prospect. What I said, is that to only use this season as an evaluation for him is pretty short sighted, as it seems like some are willing to punt him based on this most recent season.

I actually think it would serve him well centering the 4 th line. Learn the right way to play the game defensively and learn how to be physical in the nhl with his frame.

Carolina did the same with Jarvis before moving him up and it paid dividends.

Anything that Gazdic says on TV - do the opposite. His trade takes for the Jets have not been constructive and Ferraro is no exception.

Really? I’d love Mario on the bottom LD position for the playoffs!

 

[10Ducky10]

I'd imagine the deals aren't officially finalized on tdl day.

If a deal for a player isn't sent to the head office by 3:00 ET, that player is not allowed to play in that season's playoffs.

 

[Mooche]

TSN Hockey Insider Chris Johnston and Jonas Siegel believe price tag on Brayden Schenn could be a package of a first-round pick, a top prospect, and perhaps another small add as well.
At that price…no thank you

Just imagine the ask with retention....

Lol, no thanks.

 

[10Ducky10]

Somebody said he was slow but he isn't.
I hope Chevy doesn't trade for him.
I still want Weegar, Cozens and Frederic!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Yes, we can look at last year. He was an AHL All Star at 20 years old. And it depends on what you want to define as "top prospect". I don't remember anyone saying he's an A prospect, some blue chip that can't miss. But yes, after he was an AHL All Star last year at 20 years old, putting up .86 PPG, and 2nd overall for points in the AHL for rookies, people now pointing to this season only when the Moose are terrible is short sighted.

As for his junior years, he had a 1.46 PPG in the DUB in his D+1. Yager was 1.66 in his D+1 on a stacked Moose Jaw team, and is currently 1.61 PPG overall this year (including Moose Jaw and Lethbridge). And I see some trying to pencil him in as the Jets 2C next year.

I am interested to know the list of 21 year old players who kill it on teams with next to no offensive talent, where (at this point in the season) their team has scored a total of 110 goals, which is dead last in the AHL, and second last is 129.

To be clear, my position is not that Lambert is some elite can't miss prospect. What I said, is that to only use this season as an evaluation for him is pretty short sighted, as it seems like some are willing to punt him based on this most recent season.

He was supposed to help make the Moose a better offensive team than they have been. Is he a victim, or part of the problem?

Yes, he was an AHL all-star last year but look at the AHL careers of players who go on to be top 6 players in the NHL. Many of them never set foot in the AHL. The ones who did usually scored ppg or better, even in D+1, much less D+3. He is scoring at a rate that suggests a bottom 6 NHL'er. Does he have a bottom 6 game?

 

[surixon]

Yes, we can look at last year. He was an AHL All Star at 20 years old. And it depends on what you want to define as "top prospect". I don't remember anyone saying he's an A prospect, some blue chip that can't miss. But yes, after he was an AHL All Star last year at 20 years old, putting up .86 PPG, and 2nd overall for points in the AHL for rookies, people now pointing to this season only when the Moose are terrible is short sighted.

As for his junior years, he had a 1.46 PPG in the DUB in his D+1. Yager was 1.66 in his D+1 on a stacked Moose Jaw team, and is currently 1.61 PPG overall this year (including Moose Jaw and Lethbridge). And I see some trying to pencil him in as the Jets 2C next year.

I am interested to know the list of 21 year old players who kill it on teams with next to no offensive talent, where (at this point in the season) their team has scored a total of 110 goals, which is dead last in the AHL, and second last is 129.

To be clear, my position is not that Lambert is some elite can't miss prospect. What I said, is that to only use this season as an evaluation for him is pretty short sighted, as it seems like some are willing to punt him based on this most recent season.

Lambert to me is such an interesting prospect because I have a real hard time getting a good read on him. His development has been really uneven.

When I watch him play you can see the talent. He's a world class skater with strong puck control. He can push dmen back with his speed and has the vision to take advantage of the passing lanes he creates.

But you can also see where he needs to grow. One thing I've always been cautious about is his shot. He has a below average shot and as explained in an earlier post he doesn't put himself in top scoring positions enough. I've always wondered just how much of threat to score at the NHL level he will be and this season hasn't really done much to alleviate those concerns. I also question if he plays a style of game that will fit in with the forwards we have. Almost all of our top 6 guys excel off a cycle/rotation game where they find soft ice in the slot. Lambert doesn't play that way. He likes circling around the outside with the puck and putting long range shots on net.

So I have a hard time with this player. When he plays a more direct game and goes to the trenches he's dangerous and I have no issue waiting to see if he can get to that game consistently. He does that and he can make a difference on the Jets.

With regards to junior production Lambert was also on a stacked team so I wouldn't be using caliber of team to distinguish the two players d plus 1 scoring rates.

What Yager has going for him is that his style of play is more projectable to the type of C's the org has liked in the 2 spot. He also has a pro caliber shot and atleast in junior has shown a propensity to get to the slot. It will be incumbent on Brayden to continue to do so at the pro level if he is to be that C we want.

 

[Bender Duster]

Anything that Gazdic says on TV - do the opposite. His trade takes for the Jets have not been constructive and Ferraro is no exception.

100% agree. His ideas are as upside down as he was the time Buff nearly knocked him into a parallel dimension.

 

[jokesondee]

100% agree. His ideas are as upside down as he was the time Buff nearly knocked him into a parallel dimension.

One of my favorite hits from Buff. Man i miss him. Gazdic was 6'4' 225lbs just to put Buffs strength into perspective.

 

[Jet]

If a deal for a player isn't sent to the head office by 3:00 CT, that player is not allowed to play in that season's playoffs.
I am pretty sure they have to be compliant at the TDL.

The deal can be sent to head office, that doesn't mean its immediately approved.

 

[CanMerc]

100% agree. His ideas are as upside down as he was the time Buff nearly knocked him into a parallel dimension.

We really need a new Buf…I miss watching him play

If a deal for a player isn't sent to the head office by 3:00 CT, that player is not allowed to play in that season's playoffs.
I am pretty sure they have to be compliant at the TDL.

It’s actually 3pm New York Time, or EST, where head office is located