Speculation: 2024/25 Trade Rumours, Speculation etc Thread

[Jet]

I didn't read that.

But speaking of the Four Nations, Parayko is maybe the guy that Josh get paired up with.

Last night's game one of the things I noticed is how much Josh Morrissey is not the one being attacked on defense, pucks are going deep on De Melo's side.

If you compare Josh Morrissey to the high regards of Scott Niedrmayer, one of the reasons Niedermayer was so effective is he always had a defenseman whose side you didn't want to go down, that allowed him to be more active defenseively/offensively.

Do the Jets needs a guy like Parayko who could offset Morrissey? I know they haven't played a game at the Four Nations yet, but I guess the question is if Josh makes an even greater impression there is Chevy's priority that kind of player?

In my opinion Fleury and De Melo would be a more ideal 3rd pairing than what the Jets are using now.

Yeah I feel like in previous years, teams didn't have a good attack option against the Demelo Morrissey pair but with Demelo seemingly infected with the yips this season they're taking advantage of it.

I wonder how a Fleury Morrissey pair would fare? I know it's wild to think a depth acquisition could go from a healthy scratch to first pair, but Fleury has been handling second pair minutes well, and Demelo wasn't exactly a top pair pedigree before he was matched with Morrissey

 

[voyageur]

Yeah I feel like in previous years, teams didn't have a good attack option against the Demelo Morrissey pair but with Demelo seemingly infected with the yips this season they're taking advantage of it.

I wonder how a Fleury Morrissey pair would fare? I know it's wild to think a depth acquisition could go from a healthy scratch to first pair, but Fleury has been handling second pair minutes well, and Demelo wasn't exactly a top pair pedigree before he was matched with Morrissey

I still like Fleury playing the left side. Out of the gates first thing you noticed that was different is every defenseman is flying on the left side. Right side Pionk is the only one who can sustain a rush. If you put a Trouba like player on Morrissey's side he's very effective. Now the Trouba ship has sailed but is there a player out there that plays that way that's available? I don't watch enough hockey around the league. Byram is the only guy where I've seen where I could say the skating would be hard to beat. If Melo went down not sure Heinola could be consistent enough there. Miller is a lot like De Melo, maybe a little more physical, a bit faster, but not as good at getting in the lanes, and also not a guy you want handling the puck too much. Salomonsson I don't know if he could do it, but there is potential there.

 

[Jet]

I still like Fleury playing the left side. Out of the gates first thing you noticed that was different is every defenseman is flying on the left side. Right side Pionk is the only one who can sustain a rush. If you put a Trouba like player on Morrissey's side he's very effective. Now the Trouba ship has sailed but is there a player out there that plays that way that's available? I don't watch enough hockey around the league. Byram is the only guy where I've seen where I could say the skating would be hard to beat. If Melo went down not sure Heinola could be consistent enough there. Miller is a lot like De Melo, maybe a little more physical, a bit faster, but not as good at getting in the lanes, and also not a guy you want handling the puck too much. Salomonsson I don't know if he could do it, but there is potential there.

Yeah that's a good point. I'd love to know how Fleury feels about playing his off side. I know D men who don't seem to care either way but I absolutely hate it. I don't like the attack angles, pivoting on my weak side and digging pucks off the boards.

 

[Huffer]

I didn't read that.

But speaking of the Four Nations, Parayko is maybe the guy that Josh get paired up with.

Last night's game one of the things I noticed is how much Josh Morrissey is not the one being attacked on defense, pucks are going deep on De Melo's side.

If you compare Josh Morrissey to the high regards of Scott Niedrmayer, one of the reasons Niedermayer was so effective is he always had a defenseman whose side you didn't want to go down, that allowed him to be more active defenseively/offensively.

Do the Jets needs a guy like Parayko who could offset Morrissey? I know they haven't played a game at the Four Nations yet, but I guess the question is if Josh makes an even greater impression there is Chevy's priority that kind of player?

In my opinion Fleury and De Melo would be a more ideal 3rd pairing than what the Jets are using now.

A no brainer guy they could pair with Morrissey would be ideal. Although we all know how much they cost to acquire (and pay).

A healthy Parayko would be good. Another guy although different than Parayko that I think would be really good is Weegar. Plays the left in Calgary but I think has also played on the right. I don't think either are really available, but would be definite upgrades.

Another good option though could be Pulock. And not because he's from Dauphin. He's transitioned from an offense guy to the guy they have playing the defensive role. And the Islanders could possibly be sellers. But I think he just married a New York girl.

 

[Flair Hay]

I didn't read that.

But speaking of the Four Nations, Parayko is maybe the guy that Josh get paired up with.

Last night's game one of the things I noticed is how much Josh Morrissey is not the one being attacked on defense, pucks are going deep on De Melo's side.

If you compare Josh Morrissey to the high regards of Scott Niedrmayer, one of the reasons Niedermayer was so effective is he always had a defenseman whose side you didn't want to go down, that allowed him to be more active defenseively/offensively.

Do the Jets needs a guy like Parayko who could offset Morrissey? I know they haven't played a game at the Four Nations yet, but I guess the question is if Josh makes an even greater impression there is Chevy's priority that kind of player?

In my opinion Fleury and De Melo would be a more ideal 3rd pairing than what the Jets are using now.

Yeah we absolutely do need a big guy that can play but is a physical presence beside Josh.

People here were not buying the rumour, but Kypreos did say the Jets had interest in Trouba...

Makes me think Chevy is seeing the same thing and looking

I still like Fleury playing the left side. Out of the gates first thing you noticed that was different is every defenseman is flying on the left side. Right side Pionk is the only one who can sustain a rush. If you put a Trouba like player on Morrissey's side he's very effective. Now the Trouba ship has sailed but is there a player out there that plays that way that's available? I don't watch enough hockey around the league. Byram is the only guy where I've seen where I could say the skating would be hard to beat. If Melo went down not sure Heinola could be consistent enough there. Miller is a lot like De Melo, maybe a little more physical, a bit faster, but not as good at getting in the lanes, and also not a guy you want handling the puck too much. Salomonsson I don't know if he could do it, but there is potential there.

Pairing Salomonsson with Morrissey the same way we paired Buff with rookie Josh seems like too perfect a fit for a few reasons

 

[Buffdog]

Soeaking of trigger men, they haven't scored since Ehlers got hurt...

Considering that Cole only scored in 4 of the 24 games BEFORE ehlers got hurt (including a stretch of 11 goaless games in a row), and Vlad only scored in 6 of those games I don't see how them not scoring in the 7 since he's gone down as anything out of the ordinary

 

[bumblebeeman]

Yeah we absolutely do need a big guy that can play but is a physical presence beside Josh.

People here were not buying the rumour, but Kypreos did say the Jets had interest in Trouba...

Makes me think Chevy is seeing the same thing and looking


Pairing Salomonsson with Morrissey the same way we paired Buff with rookie Josh seems like too perfect a fit for a few reasons

There's also the fact that Pionk is a UFA coming up. Maybe the Jets don't plan on re-signing him so adding a RHD with some term would make sense.

 

[Flair Hay]

There's also the fact that Pionk is a UFA coming up. Maybe the Jets don't plan on re-signing him so adding a RHD with some term would make sense.

The more cap efficient we can make the team, the better

 

[WolfHouse]

I didn't read that.

But speaking of the Four Nations, Parayko is maybe the guy that Josh get paired up with.

Last night's game one of the things I noticed is how much Josh Morrissey is not the one being attacked on defense, pucks are going deep on De Melo's side.

If you compare Josh Morrissey to the high regards of Scott Niedrmayer, one of the reasons Niedermayer was so effective is he always had a defenseman whose side you didn't want to go down, that allowed him to be more active defenseively/offensively.

Do the Jets needs a guy like Parayko who could offset Morrissey? I know they haven't played a game at the Four Nations yet, but I guess the question is if Josh makes an even greater impression there is Chevy's priority that kind of player?

In my opinion Fleury and De Melo would be a more ideal 3rd pairing than what the Jets are using now.

Yeah probably because I didn't ACTUALLY say that haha

And let me IMMEDIATELY ignore the thread

Holy fk do I live rent-free in your guys heads. Sometimes I impress even myself.

 

[DRW204]

I've always thought there should be a separate thread for those wanting to bitch and complain about "losing" players to waivers, didn't draft when we had the chance, didn't sign as a UFA etc. and like to bring it up season after season, even after the player has been gone for years. I guess it meets some need, but if you had a dedicated thread those that want to do so could go to town, while most of us could just put on ignore. Presto everyone is happy.

You have thread making capabilities Einstein. Instead of bitching and complaining about it yourself, you can easily make it.

 

[Hobble]

Saw on Reddit that Dylan Cozens may be available from Buffalo. I don’t know his analytics, but I remember he did decent for my fantasy team a couple years ago. May be an interesting, speedy option to upgrade 2C?

 

[WolfHouse]

You have thread making capabilities Einstein. Instead of bitching and complaining about it yourself, you can easily make it.

@KingBogo never bitches and complains... he simply pontificates from above - sharing his pure genius with the huddled masses...

 

[gojetsgo]

Saw on Reddit that Dylan Cozens may be available from Buffalo. I don’t know his analytics, but I remember he did decent for my fantasy team a couple years ago. May be an interesting, speedy option to upgrade 2C?

7. Alright, some other stuff: Buffalo is getting calls on Dylan Cozens. This would terrify me if I were the Sabres, vultures circling overhead while player and team struggle. Right-shot centre, 23 years old, two years removed from a 30-goal season. He’s also signed for five more seasons at a $7.1M AAV, helping his value. I would be very, very careful with this because he’s legitimately wanted.

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sounds more like teams are trying to get him for cheap then the sabres actually shopping him

 

[WolfHouse]

They'd be crazy to trade Cozens... but I also thought they were crazy to trade Mittelstadt - and losing that C depth is a big part of whats holding them back this year imo

 

[Jet]

Yeah probably because I didn't ACTUALLY say that haha


Holy fk do I live rent-free in your guys heads. Sometimes I impress even myself.

So rent free I'll never see another post from you.

 

[Joe Hallenback]

I think they are looking at trading Cozens. He has been terrible defensively and hasn't found that scoring touch he had 2 years ago. He is very similar to Mittelstadt, intriguing player with size and skill but horrible in his own end. Could he use a change of scenery? Sure but that contract is a bit of albatross and you better be damm sure he can play on the 2nd line after.

It would seem the would want a similar aged player in return. That likely means Perfetti.

 

[voyageur]

I think they are looking at trading Cozens. He has been terrible defensively and hasn't found that scoring touch he had 2 years ago. He is very similar to Mittelstadt, intriguing player with size and skill but horrible in his own end. Could he use a change of scenery? Sure but that contract is a bit of albatross and you better be damm sure he can play on the 2nd line after.

It would seem the would want a similar aged player in return. That likely means Perfetti.

Zegras?

 

[Huffer]

I think they are looking at trading Cozens. He has been terrible defensively and hasn't found that scoring touch he had 2 years ago. He is very similar to Mittelstadt, intriguing player with size and skill but horrible in his own end. Could he use a change of scenery? Sure but that contract is a bit of albatross and you better be damm sure he can play on the 2nd line after.

It would seem the would want a similar aged player in return. That likely means Perfetti.

Agree with what you're saying and no way would I trade Perfetti.

Cozens is a guy that for 31 other fanbases they remember the World Juniors and a good World Championships (playing on the wing), and a good 2022-2023 and wonder how he could be available.

But you read the Sabres board and he has been BEYOND stuggling. Extreamly poor defensively, questions about his hockey IQ, etc. The Sabres fans have next to no centre depth and even they want to move him to the wing. And he's making over 7 million to boot.

IMO, if you're another org, you really have to be doing a great deal of research and be crossing your fingers. Is he this poor now because there are issues with the Sabres and he'd get the post Sabres bounce if you acquire him? That's possible, although you could also insert the Arrested Development gif here with the whole, "it didn't work out for them but will for us" meme.

 

[Joe Hallenback]

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One of the above players makes a lot less then the other 2. Who would you rather have?

 

[voyageur]

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One of the above players makes a lot less then the other 2. Who would you rather have?

Namestnikov.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I think when the playoffs come you can never have too many of those guys.

At the right price I'd definitely be interested in him

Key is "at the right price". But I would be concerned that they would use him to bump Names with a result too similar to Monahan last year.

 

[Bob E]

I think the Jets would consider a Cozens for Perfetti deal with adds both ways to even it out. Jets need size and speed on their 2nd line. Now, they would have to be comfortable that within their defensive system he would not be a liability. With Yager coming, they can use a player like Cozens.

I have watched a few Buffalo games on TV recently and Cozens didn’t look great, so youd have to be comfortable that you could coach him up. But by all accounts he’s a good kid so the ‘potential’ is there.

Was at the VGK game with my son last night and I’m still more concerned about their D. A big physical partner for Morrissey would be a benefit. A big elite skating shutdown pairing of Samberg and Salomonsson would be a huge benefit in future years to go up against players like Eichel, McDavid, Matthews or MacKinnon. And TNSE, just go out and get a physical, stay at home, defense first, pking LH dman that replaces Stanley once and for all. They want Stanley in the lineup to help team toughness but, you just can’t play him significant minutes so why bother?

So my ideal d looks like:

1st - Morrissey/‘physical rh dman’(XXX)
2nd - Samberg/Salomonsson
3rd - ‘physical lh dman (YYY)/DeMelo

PB- Miller/Fleury

XXX - a guy like Parayko
YYY - a guy like Edmundson