Speculation: 2024-25 Roster thread

MMC

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Frank Vatrano has Matt Duchene disease. He only shows up on ufa years
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MMC

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This is part of the reason I don’t understand this crazy hate going on. Not too mention it’s not like he plays a soft lazy game. Weird place right now.
I don’t get it either. Plenty of talk about how snakebit Cutter was but it’s been a similar story for Frank this year. I get that he didn’t have that first NHL goal storyline going but still
 

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Harkins doesn't have the skill to play up that high. I would swap him and Vatrano.
Maybe so but I actually think his physicality would mesh with McT’s and I think his puck retrieval would go well turn Terry’s.

His role wouldn’t really be skill-based, it would be a wrecking ball puck hound that wins battles and gets the puck to one of the other two goal scorers
 

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Kind of amusing to see Vatrano and Strome in the top 5 given how they are absolutely despised :laugh:

It will come for Vatrano, he's snakebitten to hell right now. Main thing is he's getting the chances, I'd be more worried if he wasn't producing and not getting the chances to do so.
 

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I don’t get it either. Plenty of talk about how snakebit Cutter was but it’s been a similar story for Frank this year. I get that he didn’t have that first NHL goal storyline going but still
It’s funny everyone ripping on Cronin (I’m not a fan either) and yet say our highest expected goals forward who plays gritty and works hard “can’t play hockey”. He missed some wide open chances but anyone who has played the game knows how quick that can happen out there and a slump being hard to break out of.
 

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It’s funny everyone ripping on Cronin (I’m not a fan either) and yet say our highest expected goals forward who plays gritty and works hard “can’t play hockey”. He missed some wide open chances but anyone who has played the game knows how quick that can happen out there and a slump being hard to break out of.

Cronin sucks. So does Vatrano when he's not scoring. He's not particularly good at anything except scoring, so when he's not scoring people are gonna rip on him. Also, expected goals don't win games.
 
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The goal scoring will come for Vatrano but I’m not convinced he’s a good all around hockey player and never have been.

He’s kind of a liability sometimes
 

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The goal scoring will come for Vatrano but I’m not convinced he’s a good all around hockey player and never have been.

He’s kind of a liability sometimes
If he truly wants to stay, this down season will help him stay. We might actually be able to get a nice value contract from him if he’s truly embarrassed with his play once contract extension talks happen.
 

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Continuing on from the (prematurely) closed Buf@Ana thread:

I'm tired of making excuses for our young guys, they just need to f***ing produce. Seeing Michkov going crazy is absolutely frustrating.

Yeah I made that decision. They are not playing till Monday and with a practice coming up this weekend like to move the discussion here. Normally I’d keep it open if there was a game the following day they play. Sorry.
 

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Continuing on from the (prematurely) closed Buf@Ana thread:

I'm tired of making excuses for our young guys, they just need to f***ing produce. Seeing Michkov going crazy is absolutely frustrating.
“Going crazy” is extremely generous. Michkov has helped Philly’s PP, but he has not had a big impact at even strength. Leo has more even strength points than him.
 

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“Going crazy” is extremely generous. Michkov has helped Philly’s PP, but he has not had a big impact at even strength. Leo has more even strength points than him.
And Leo is only 4 points behind him and by all standards we’d all agree Leo isn’t playing anywhere close to where we know he can.
 

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“Going crazy” is extremely generous. Michkov has helped Philly’s PP, but he has not had a big impact at even strength. Leo has more even strength points than him.

I see this argument commonly but it makes no sense to me. Goals are goals, it doesn't matter where they come from. You wouldn't call 15 points in 18 games going crazy? Michkov is nearly ppg on a shit team.

And Leo is only 4 points behind him and by all standards we’d all agree Leo isn’t playing anywhere close to where we know he can.

So our best rebuttal is that one of our young guys "only" has 4 less points? It's shit performances all the way down, someone needs to step up in a big way.
 
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So our best rebuttal is that one of our young guys "only" has 4 less points? It's shit performances all the way down, someone needs to step up in a big way.
Agreed. But it’s not just on the players who should be better. It’s also the coaching and system. Cronin’s one good move was putting Z with Leo over the last several games. I know Z likes to play C, but he has looked really good up there.
 
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