2024-25 Roster…too soon?

[Clownish]

It probably looks like a Kyle Connor or Brock Boeser type of player. Somewhere in the 8-10 million range, but maybe not until it’s clear one of these young defenseman is actually a 1D. This team isn’t doing shit until they have a 1D to pair with Vlasic, even if you stick Rantanen next to Bedard.

Colorado had the best defenseman in the league next to a 1D while having rantanen next to a top-three center. This team has such a long way to go before being good.

So $8-10 mil for two players who aren't nearly as impactful nor useful for the Blackhawks in terms of increasing puck possession (they're both just shooters like Panarin or Debrincat) as 12.5 mil for Rantanen. I'd say that's a bigger waste as well. If the money is going to be spent, get the best player especially when there isn't much money being saved between the two options. It's all moot since Rantanen wouldn't choose Chicago anyway.

 

[Hawkaholic]

I'm not paying any player not named McDavid or MacKinnon 14mil a year. That's crazy talk.

 

[MHO]

Regarding what to do with Rantanen, there are a few different questions.

1. Will he hit the open market?

Maybe. Players of his caliber usually don't but Colorado's cap situation is murky. If Landeskog retires or makes it known that he is not playing next year, his $7M cap hit will not be on the books for next season. If he plays this season or announces he will play next season, Colorado might not have to cap space to give Rantanen what he wants without moving other pieces. (In that case, I might inquire about Mittelstadt) The cap is going up but Makar is due for a raise after next year and they have a lot of money tied up with no goaltender under contract after this year. Take a look Colorado's cap structure on CapWages or something and see for yourself.

2. Would an 8 year $14M AAV contract for a 29 year old compromise the Blackhawks' salary structure going into their window?

I don't think so. Teams like Toronto and Edmonton, while flawed, have multiple players making 8 figures with term and the Blackhawks have none. They also have been hampered by the cap staying stagnant the past 5 years due to COVID. I think the cap might get to $100M by the time they have to pay Bedard and might even be $120M when they have to start giving significant contracts to other prospects in 4-5 years. Other than Jones, they really don't have too much money tied up long term to anyone and they will benefit from many of their prospects and draft picks playing on ELC's for the next 5 seasons I would guess.

3. Should the Blackhawks offer an 8 year $14M AAV contract to Mikko Rantanen?

I would say they should. Players like him don't hit the market much, if he even does, and he's still relatively young. I feel like when the Hawks signed Hossa, they had a feeling that he would age well. I have no idea if Rantanen will but KD should definitely do his due diligence on his profile and how 6'4 215lb 2 way wingers age. I also still think he's worth it even if he's not a 100 point player without MacKinnon. He's big, kills penalties (until this year for some reason), and can win a faceoff despite the fact that he plays on the wing.

4. Would Rantanen sign with the Blackhawks when other (better) teams will also be willing to give $14M with term?

I don't have a f***ing clue

 

[GIADF]

14M will seem steep at first, but I'd still do it. Cap needs to go up to 92M for a 14M hit to come in at 15% of your cap usage and it's only going to go down from there.

I'm guessing Colorado extending him comes down to what happens with Landeskog, who I believe recently had a health update and it went poorly.

 

[Pertti]

On Rantanen I would give him max 6 year's. Doubt that he gets over 13,5M but 10 - 12 M is a lot for 35 year's old in 6 year's.

As Toronto and Tavares deal was after all mainly because all Matthews, Marner and Nylander made big with Tavares. Had they become as good without Tavares.

6y and 11M for Rantanen, I could live with that but knowing the insanity of GM's that probably isn't biggest offer.

 

[MHO]

Who got the biggest AAV deal last offseason? Was is Guentzel?

 

[Mrfenn92]

Who got the biggest AAV deal last offseason? Was is Guentzel?

Yes

 

[Crow]

So $8-10 mil for two players who aren't nearly as impactful nor useful for the Blackhawks in terms of increasing puck possession (they're both just shooters like Panarin or Debrincat) as 12.5 mil for Rantanen. I'd say that's a bigger waste as well. If the money is going to be spent, get the best player especially when there isn't much money being saved between the two options. It's all moot since Rantanen wouldn't choose Chicago anyway.

Just shooters like Panarin? He averages 63 assists per 82.