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2024-25 Ottawa Senators Regular Season MVP

Who is their regular season MVP?

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Felidae

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a few candidates it looks like. The ones that stand out statistically..

Linus Ullmark
- 10th in sv% (.911)
- 9th in GSAA (12)
- 7th in shutouts (4)
-13th in goals saved above expected

Jake Sanderson
-10th in scoring among dmen (55), leads team
-14th in goals among dmen (11)
-13th in ATOI leaguewide (24:23), leads team
-24th in SHTOI among dmen (2:35), leads team
-14th in blocked shots (162) leads team
-leads team in takeaways (52)


Tim Stutzle
-leads team in points (72), 33rd leaguewide
-leads forwards on team in ATOI (19:51), 32nd among forwards leaguewide

Brady Tkachuk
-14th in hits leaguewide (227), leads team
-leads team in goals (29), 41st leaguewide

Drake Batherson
-2nd in points on team (62)
-2nd in goals on team (23)

Thomas Chabot
-22nd in points among dmen (44)
14th in EVP among dmen (34)
-2nd on team in takeaways (35)
-2nd on team in +/- (17)

Let me know if anyone should be added.
 
Different guys stepped up at different times of the season so it’s hard to avoid recency bias.

I’d say Sanderson or Ullmark and I’ll go Sanderson by a slim margin.

Early in the season it was Stutzle. Tkachuk there for awhile too.
 
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Sanderson has been the MVP this season.

Shout out to Ullmark for coming in, giving the Sens the great goaltending they need. And for Chabot, who was a whipping boy, but has returned back to his old self.
 
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the gap in offensive production between Sanderson and Chabot is mostly explained by PP production (Chabot outscored him EV). Since it seems like Sanderson was on the 1st unit almost the whole year, is he that much better as a PPQB than Chabot?
 
Felidae said:
the gap in offensive production between Sanderson and Chabot is mostly explained by PP production (Chabot outscored him EV). Since it seems like Sanderson was on the 1st unit almost the whole year, is he that much better as a PPQB than Chabot?
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Offensively they are similar in terms of using their mobility with the man advantage to create new shooting angles and walk the line.

I would say that Sanderson is quicker and faster overall, and Chabot has a bit of a muffin of a shot from the point. Opposing teams don't quite have to worry about giving Chabot that shot.

Defensively, Sanderson tends to be a less gaffe prone as well.
 
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Felidae said:
the gap in offensive production between Sanderson and Chabot is mostly explained by PP production (Chabot outscored him EV). Since it seems like Sanderson was on the 1st unit almost the whole year, is he that much better as a PPQB than Chabot?
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Sanderson is more deceptive and better at creating and finding shooting and passing lanes. Chabot's strength offensively is mainly in transition and stepping into the play at the right times. EV Sanderson plays the shuutdown role and was probably more on the unlucky side to start the season. Had an on-ice SH% of 5.15% in the first 23 games, ended up with 2 EV points in that time. In the next 56 games that is up to 9.05% and he has 21 EV points. For whatever reason the puck wasn't going into the net at the start of the season when Sanderson was on the ice. That has since corrected.
 
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Sanderson was incredible this season, other than the 10-20 games when he was stuck babysitting Hamonic, the worst defenseman in the league.

Definitely the Sens' MVP this year.
 
Felidae said:
the gap in offensive production between Sanderson and Chabot is mostly explained by PP production (Chabot outscored him EV). Since it seems like Sanderson was on the 1st unit almost the whole year, is he that much better as a PPQB than Chabot?
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On the flipside, Sanderson is pretty much deployed in a defensive role 5 on 5. He gets the toughest match-ups and doesn’t get many offensive zone starts. I’m pretty sure he gets much less offensive zone starts than most d-men in the Norris convo.
 
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This is true. 5 in 5, Sanderson and Zub jump on the ice whenever the opponent's top line is out, paired with the Sens' checking line. His job is to prevent the other team from scoring. He doesn't get as many offensive chances as Chabot. Chabot has the opposite deployment. He plays with the Sens' top 2 lines in offensive situations, usually facing the opponent's checking line.

Sanderson plays PP1 as he's better than Chabot on the PP.
 
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Felidae said:
the gap in offensive production between Sanderson and Chabot is mostly explained by PP production (Chabot outscored him EV). Since it seems like Sanderson was on the 1st unit almost the whole year, is he that much better as a PPQB than Chabot?
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I voted Chabot because Sanderson's production has been depending too much on the PP (Chabot 37 ESP vs 23 ESP for Sanderson). I know this is not going to be popular among Sens fans. I just don't value PP production all that much compared to ES production. Chabot has the 2nd most ESP among Sens players.

Sanderson also wasn't great in the first half when Zub was injured as he was stuck with Hamonic who is simply not NHL caliber anymore. Close to 400 mins 5v5 with him... that was holding him back a lot

Chabot-Jensen have the best GF% on the team and arguably have been the Sens best pairing all season, however Sanderson-Zub has been gaining ground with Zub rounding back into form. They are also used as the top shutdown pair and Sens don't have a dominant 2-way line as of now (Giroux has slowed down a lot and Stu has had a revolving door of wingers all season) so maybe it would be different if they had a dominant 1st line.

Chabot has been a 2-way force all season and carried this team with his usual elite transition play, wouldn't be surprised if he gets a few Norris votes, although he has been saddled with Hamonic too

So this is close between Chabot and Sanderson for me, even though it should be Stutzle who despite getting 75 pts has been better defensively (might get a few Selke votes). But people won't vote for him because that kind of production is a bit disappointing for him. He's way too good to not be easily over PPG

To summarize, IF Sanderson was able to play all season with a healthy Zub and a dominant 1st line centered by Stutzle, then I would have voted him easily. He's easily the Sens best player (with Stutzle close 2nd) but voted differently due to context.
 
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Offensively they are similar in terms of using their mobility with the man advantage to create new shooting angles and walk the line.

I would say that Sanderson is quicker and faster overall, and Chabot has a bit of a muffin of a shot from the point. Opposing teams don't quite have to worry about giving Chabot that shot.

Defensively, Sanderson tends to be a less gaffe prone as well.
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I know this is often mentioned in Sens GDTs but this is a bit of an urban legend. The problem is he doesn't use his slapshot much, he always shoots wristers for deflections instead. He's a bit like Stutzle, stubborn in wanting more assists than goals

From NHL Edge : Top Shot Speed (mph) 96.35 89.74 (league average) 83 (percentile)

He can wire the puck, just doesn't do it much. As you can see in the 2nd video, it's mostly only going to be when he feels that the goalie doesn't see anything



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Chabot frappe en A.N. | Sénateurs d’Ottawa

Thomas Chabot décoche un tir frappé de la pointe en avantage numérique pour réduire l'écart à 3-2 en deuxième période
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JKG33 said:
This team isn't where they are without Ullmark
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He has had hot stretches but a very inconsistent season overall as he struggled with injuries too. Forsberg has been pretty decent too and Merilainen has been the best of the 3 (although small sample size). Chabot, Sanderson and Stutzle all have been more important. I'd say he was 4th
 
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Just to give people an idea (first half the season though)

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Pinto and Greig have been much much better since.
 
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