Speculation: 2024-25 Coaching/Management/Ownership

[Ducks DVM]

I look at the kings and can't help but be jealous. They have a system that works. They have won 6 in a row and their young guys coming from the ahl buy in and are chipping in. Something is rotten within our organization and it start at the ahl level

If you’re being honest, they also have Kopitar and Kempe covering up an awful lot of warts.

 

[ZegrassyKnoll]

Another sign they're actially a great match. But perhaps not if they're in an org you root for.

Cronin is one thing but I don't really care (or even want) a GM that is "fun" to work for. Obviously I don't want them to be mean/cruel/unhealthy but a GM shouldn't be out to make friends. They have to make the tough decisions.

 

[Reveille1984]

I mean, it's not like they're mutually exclusive things. You can be an effective leader without being an asshole. The whole "tough guy" shtick is a lot more grating when you haven't really proven anything yet and the team is a perpetual gong show.

Like others have mentioned, there's been way too much noise around Cronin/Verbeek and the type of environment they seem to have created for all of this to be just a fart in the wind.

 

[Hey234]

I mean, it's not like they're mutually exclusive things. You can be an effective leader without being an asshole. The whole "tough guy" shtick is a lot more grating when you haven't really proven anything yet and the team is a perpetual gong show.

Like others have mentioned, there's been way too much noise around Cronin/Verbeek and the type of environment they seem to have created for all of this to be just a fart in the wind.

I agree but at the same time, look at the Tkachuk situation in Ottawa. The owner had to come out and state that they have never been in any discussions about trading Brady. This is not the first time he's had to do this. It still doesn't stop the rumors. Zegras is similar although less public support from the team/owners.

Right now, the rumor this season is that Cronin is awful to play for and Verbeek is rough around the edges. In that video, they clearly are just repeating what we've all been hearing all season and there was nothing new to report. Most of the reports are from last season and in the summer. I can't remember seeing any negative comments about how he speaks to players this season.

All that being said, IMO, Cronin should be fired because he has not been successful and there's a lot of evidence to prove this. Having a GM and coach that are both tough in how they communicate is probably not a good balance.

 

[ZegrassyKnoll]

I mean, it's not like they're mutually exclusive things. You can be an effective leader without being an asshole. The whole "tough guy" shtick is a lot more grating when you haven't really proven anything yet and the team is a perpetual gong show.

Like others have mentioned, there's been way too much noise around Cronin/Verbeek and the type of environment they seem to have created for all of this to be just a fart in the wind.

Social media has pretty much completely negated this theory, ESPECIALLY in sports media.

Everyone is scrambling to join in the noise and get clicks so that "noise" we hear could absolutely just be one fart in the wind echoing over and over.

 

[Hey234]

Social media has pretty much completely negated this theory, ESPECIALLY in sports media.

Everyone is scrambling to join in the noise and get clicks so that "noise" we hear could absolutely just be one fart in the wind echoing over and over.

This. I don't like Cronin but the reports are all old and echoing up the media chain. So far, the players seem less wound up than last season and there haven't been any credible reports this season to my knowledge.

 

[CrazyDuck4u]

It's possible what Corning was back than isnt what he is now. People can change.