Speculation: 2024-25 Coaching/Management/Ownership

[TheDarkWingThatDucks]

The last 8 games we are 20th in shots for, 31st in shots against, 30th in shot differential, 28th in SAT%, 29th in USAT%. 2nd in 5v5 shooting %, and 10th in 5v5 SV %. They are 5-2-1.

That’s not sustainable. That’s a hot streak relying on goalie play and an unsustainable shooting %.

We also were unlucky with shooting percentage to start the year which has shown was also unsustainable. Stats are all fine and good, we look like a much better hockey team overall the last 8 games instead of the first 13. Plenty of room for improvement, but we HAVE been improving and perhaps it hasn’t quite shown up with the advanced stats, but something as simple as 5’ passes in the neutral zone that used to lead to a turnover are now leading to speed into opponents zone. Not always, but not never like before.

My hope is this young team continues to make improvements, it’s the key to our longterm success. Also this team was always only going to be as good as their goaltending, and we have at least a top 5 tandem in the league and it’s not close.

What’s the high danger chances the opposition has, is there a stats for sustained zone pressure ?

Thanks sir !

 

[KaseMeOutside]

"Get pucks deep"

This guy is RC 2.0 that is dump and chase hockey when you don't have the team to play that way.

 

[Hey234]

Friedman talked about the Ducks, specifically Cronin, today on his podcast. Nothing necessarily new. According to his sources, Verbeek was considering replacing him after last season but decided to try again with a new assistant coach and Cronin a new perspective. The comment Friedman kept repeating was unhappiness but the players due to not winning and someone pushing them hard.

He said Burke used to praise Selanne because he's so positive. Carlyle and Burke are angry people and Selanne would keep everyone's spirits up. Gave Cronin lots of rope because losing is not fun so how can he make he room fun. Believes that everyone is trying to find a balance.

Also brought up how things that motivate AHL players may not work for players with NHL contracts. Essentially, players will grind more to make the NHL than grind to stay in the NHL after they feel they have arrived and been paid.

 

[robbieboy3686]

Friedman talked about the Ducks, specifically Cronin, today on his podcast. Nothing necessarily new. According to his sources, Verbeek was considering replacing him after last season but decided to try again with a new assistant coach and Cronin a new perspective. The comment Friedman kept repeating was unhappiness but the players due to not winning and someone pushing them hard.

He said Burke used to praise Selanne because he's so positive. Carlyle and Burke are angry people and Selanne would keep everyone's spirits up. Gave Cronin lots of rope because losing is not fun so how can he make he room fun. Believes that everyone is trying to find a balance.

Also brought up how things that motivate AHL players may not work for players with NHL contracts. Essentially, players will grind more to make the NHL than grind to stay in the NHL after they feel they have arrived and been paid.

He also said some of the veteran players might also be expecting more from the younger players as well. That it’s not always all the players V the coach

 

[MCB]

Friedman talked about the Ducks, specifically Cronin, today on his podcast. Nothing necessarily new. According to his sources, Verbeek was considering replacing him after last season but decided to try again with a new assistant coach and Cronin a new perspective. The comment Friedman kept repeating was unhappiness but the players due to not winning and someone pushing them hard.

Sorry to derail, but was it on the 32 thoughts podcast? I was half listening to it and only got halfway before I got to work, but I want to make sure I listen to that.

 

[robbieboy3686]

Sorry to derail, but was it on the 32 thoughts podcast? I was half listening to it and only got halfway before I got to work, but I want to make sure I listen to that.

Yes 32 thoughts around 43 minutes into it

 

[Mr Rogers]

Interesting stuff. Pretty much confirms that Whitney on SC was talking about how things were going this year and not last year. Some people still weren’t convinced that he was talking about this season.

And that’s interesting that Pat considered moving on after 1 year, things must’ve been bad. I have little doubt now that he’d move on from him after year 2 if we don’t improve.

 

[TheDarkWingThatDucks]

Interesting stuff. Pretty much confirms that Whitney on SC was talking about how things were going this year and not last year. Some people still weren’t convinced that he was talking about this season.

And that’s interesting that Pat considered moving on after 1 year, things must’ve been bad. I have little doubt now that he’d move on from him after year 2 if we don’t improve.

Yeah but (I haven’t listened but reading what this guy transcribed) it sounds like the players are frustrated with losing while having a hard ass coach. Not that the locker room hates Cronin. Also says vets are mad at the young players.

Winning cures everything end of the day, the boys have been winning hockey games for 10 ish games, and it’s clear they are having some fun while doing it.

If the second Seattle game can’t galvanize this group to start playing for each other, then nothing will. Hurt our star 19 year old the game before, score 2 quick goals in the 3rd celebrate in your ice. You go back up there give up another 2 goal lead on the road, score 3 unanswered celebrate on their ice, kill off a double minor, in the final 5 minutes.

If these guys can’t come together as a group after that and really start playing for each other…: we’ve got f***ing huge problems

 

[Boo Boo]

not gonna lie I was a little bit disappointed in the 32 thoughts podcast today when Kyle asked what went right for the ducks to be at .500 and Elliott decided to just talk about our difficult locker room rather than our goalies or contributions from our actual players.

Feels like there was definitely room for them to boost our goalies or like zellweger or even zegras/some of our other young core guys but Elliot took it the total other direction. Obviously it doesn’t really matter but some positive attention around this franchise would be well appreciated.

 

[Mr Rogers]

Yeah but (I haven’t listened but reading what this guy transcribed) it sounds like the players are frustrated with losing while having a hard ass coach. Not that the locker room hates Cronin. Also says vets are mad at the young players.

Winning cures everything end of the day, the boys have been winning hockey games for 10 ish games, and it’s clear they are having some fun while doing it.

If the second Seattle game can’t galvanize this group to start playing for each other, then nothing will. Hurt our star 19 year old the game before, score 2 quick goals in the 3rd celebrate in your ice. You go back up there give up another 2 goal lead on the road, score 3 unanswered celebrate on their ice, kill off a double minor, in the final 5 minutes.

If these guys can’t come together as a group after that and really start playing for each other…: we’ve got f***ing huge problems

The demarcation between the two is murky IMO. We’re talking about people with emotions. I’m sure a coach like Cronin who has a grating personality is pretty awful when the team is losing. Don’t think it’s a stretch at all to say they might “hate” him at least in certain moments.

I know you like Cronin so agree to disagree before this keeps going

 

[Hockey Duckie]

not gonna lie I was a little bit disappointed in the 32 thoughts podcast today when Kyle asked what went right for the ducks to be at .500 and Elliott decided to just talk about our difficult locker room rather than our goalies or contributions from our actual players.

Feels like there was definitely room for them to boost our goalies or like zellweger or even zegras/some of our other young core guys but Elliot took it the total other direction. Obviously it doesn’t really matter but some positive attention around this franchise would be well appreciated.

Drama sells. Planes landing safely don't garner attention, unfortunately.