Rumor: 2024-2025 Trade Rumors and Free Agency Talk | Part Deux

[hockeyfish]

Jesse is the one they have on, preparing myself for some bad takes on what the Avs actually need before the deadline

Close to an extension!!!

 

[The Merchant]

Jesse is the one they have on, preparing myself for some bad takes on what the Avs actually need before the deadline

He was fine. Predictably nothing juicy, trade-wise. Only names dropped were Jones and Ferraro as speculation.

 

[dmac7719]

Jesse is the one they have on, preparing myself for some bad takes on what the Avs actually need before the deadline

Well I stand corrected. He brought up an upgrade at 2C and an upgrade to top 4 D. And brought up how the Avs would love to bring in a more consistent partner for Girard to move down Manson.

Said that the Avs often go after the guys that aren't in the cycle (so doesn't think it will necessarily be Jones). Brought up Ferraro as the guy he could see the Avs going after (this was pure opinion based on his part)

 

[hockeyfish]

Well I stand corrected. He brought up an upgrade at 2C and an upgrade to top 4 D. And brought up how the Avs would love to bring in a more consistent partner for Girard to move down Manson.

Said that the Avs often go after the guys that aren't in the cycle (so doesn't think it will necessarily be Jones). Brought up Ferraro as the guy he could see the Avs going after (this was pure opinion based on his part)

Pretty much everything we have all talked about here.

 

[CobraAcesS]

Jesse is the one they have on, preparing myself for some bad takes on what the Avs actually need before the deadline

Thank you, just saved me from wasting my time.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

Ristolainen expected to stay in Philly? — The Fourth Period

According to Flyers beat reporter Kevin Kurz of The Athletic, the Flyers “haven’t gotten many calls on” Ristolainen and while things can change with one phone call, he is not expected to be moved, as of now.

 

[LOFIN]

Close to an extension!!!

To be fair, it was reported after the trade by multiple people that they apparently were really close last summmer... Then Drai got his contract.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

If Dallas doesn't have any interest in Risto, and there is a bidding war between Dallas and the Avs for Jones, it likely won't end well for The Avs.

The only saving grace might be that the Avs can probably take Jones at a higher cap hit than Dallas can, and thus Chicago wouldn't have to retain as much.

 

[hockeyfish]

If Dallas doesn't have any interest in Risto, and there is a bidding war between Dallas and the Avs for Jones, it likely won't end well for The Avs.

The only saving grace might be that the Avs can probably take Jones at a higher cap hit than Dallas can, and thus Chicago wouldn't have to retain as much.

When was the last time the Avs actually won a bidding war?

 

[AvsCOL]

If Dallas doesn't have any interest in Risto, and there is a bidding war between Dallas and the Avs for Jones, it likely won't end well for The Avs.

The only saving grace might be that the Avs can probably take Jones at a higher cap hit than Dallas can, and thus Chicago wouldn't have to retain as much.

I think Seth Jones would be a great add, but to have Chicago retain on that deal it's going to cost a premium. Not sure the Avs have the assets to be playing this game. Unless we get some magic from the front office, I really can't see this happening. If the rumored trade from Dallas is Mavrik Bourque and a 1st, the Avs are nowhere close to being able to offer that.

Avs need to start drafting better or this window will be short lived imo. You need assets to move, and the Avs don't have many. It's a shame that Behrens got hurt, because I think he'd be a valuable trade chip.

 

[CobraAcesS]

If Dallas doesn't have any interest in Risto, and there is a bidding war between Dallas and the Avs for Jones, it likely won't end well for The Avs.

The only saving grace might be that the Avs can probably take Jones at a higher cap hit than Dallas can, and thus Chicago wouldn't have to retain as much.

That's what I'm thinking. We can do the trade at 7M now and going forward, where Dallas probably wants 6M.

We know Sakic has a good relationship with Patt Brisson, and Jones father is in Denver. If they really want Jones they can probably win the battle with Dallas.

Who knows though, maybe neither team wants to go higher than 6.5M, and Chicago is like fine, we'll see you in the off season lets play chicken until March 7th.

 

[Tommy Shelby]

When was the last time the Avs actually won a bidding war?

They crushed the Miles Wood sweepstakes

 

[Richard88]

Utah has a bunch of pieces I wouldn't mind.

C Barrett Hayton - LHS - 6'1" 201 lbs. - 24 y/o - $2.65m AAV x 2 years - 59GP-15G-17A-32P
W Lawson Crouse - LHS - 6'4" 216 lbs. - 27 y/o - $4.3m AAV x 3 years - 58GP-9G-4A-13P
C/W Nick Bjugstad - RHS - 6'5" 208 lbs. - 32 y/o - $2.1m AAV x 1 year - 51GP-5G-10A-15P
C/W Kevin Stenlund - RHS - 6'3" 215 lbs. - 28 y/o - $2m AAV x 2 years - 59GP-7G-6A-13P
D Sean Durzi - RHS - 6'1" 198 lbs. - 25 y/o - $6m AAV x 4 years - 7GP-0G-3A-3P
D John Marino - RHS - 6'1" 202 lbs. - 27 y/o - $4.4m AAV x 3 years - 17GP-0G-6A-6P
D Olli Maata - LHS - 6'2" 209 lbs. - 30 y/o - $3m AAV x 1 year - 49GP-2G-11A-13P

This beyond obvious guys they wouldn't want to move, and I'm not even sure if the guys above would all be available.

Potential for a one-stop shopping spree here.

Hayton is the obvious prize, but all 3 of Crouse/Bjugstad/Stenlund are quality 3rd line forwards who bring size, speed, jam. On D, Durzi would cost a fair bit but would fit our style really well. Excellent at puck retrieval, breakout and stretch passes, kickstarting offense from the back. Marino is super underrated. Maata would fit in nice at 3LD and has no salary commitment beyond this year.

Kesselring?

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

When was the last time the Avs actually won a bidding war?

Exactly

 

[The Merchant]

When was the last time the Avs actually won a bidding war?

Kuemper

 

[Richard88]

When was the last time the Avs actually won a bidding war?

Probably Lehkonen for Barron + 2nd. There wasn't much noise around Lehkonen but there were surely other teams interested.

 

[Grackle Party]

Lots in here, but one quote in particular caught my attention in regards to Zegras:

"You need to put him on a team with a star player who will outwork him. That's the only way you fix him," one NHL executive said.

I haven't entertained the idea of him being the 2C solution, but if that's true then there wouldn't be a better player in the league to "fix" him than Nathan MacKinnon.

He lists McTavish as potentially available here which is a bit surprising

 

[AllAboutAvs]

When was the last time the Avs actually won a bidding war?

CDH and Kylington.

I better include one of these:

 

[CobraAcesS]

Exactly

Yeah, but this isn't Vegas or NY, it's Dallas lol.

 

[Pokecheque]

He lists McTavish as potentially available here which is a bit surprising

Anaheim is such a train wreck. So much talent on that roster that they're wasting. They'll try and ruin Carlsson too.

 

[CobraAcesS]

Probably Lehkonen for Barron + 2nd. There wasn't much noise around Lehkonen but there were surely other teams interested.

Manson too, as well as Kadri

 

[Hasbro]

Yup, not sure what this infatuation with meh players on other teams is. I guess classic case of grass always greener on the other side.

I mean, i get it, Mittelstadt, Colton, Wood...all play like shit, dont provide the secondary scoring we need. But replacing them with guys that dont do that on their teams either, wont probably fix the issue, right? Or do they just hope they will randomly blossom into snipers and playmakers on Avs?

The size is always queener on the other side of the fence.

I like his speed, but worry about the short peak of Power Forwards and he's not a center.

I guess it comes down to what the trade give would be.

 

[Ararana]

I haven't entertained the idea of him being the 2C solution, but if that's true then there wouldn't be a better player in the league to "fix" him than Nathan MacKinnon.

MacKinnon would murder Zegras within a week. I'd make for great TV, lets do it.

 

[hockeyfish]

He lists McTavish as potentially available here which is a bit surprising

I don't really get the appeal of McTavish to be honest.

 

[RoyIsALegend]

Kesselring?

Armstrong said they're really happy with Kesselring, they have contract control with him, and he's in their plans moving forward.

$1.4m per season for 2 years and still an RFA after that. They don't want to move him.