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Prospect Info: 2024-2025 Rangers Prospects Thread (Prospect Stats in Post #1; Updated 1/13/2025)

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Aspinall had 1+1 and is up to 3+3 in 7 games this year with a +4 and 16 SOG. Rangers continuing to exploit the market inefficiency, drafting gigantic guys with some amount of skill.

Boilard is still playing, but is scoreless and off to a slow start at 1-2-3 in 7 games including today's.
 
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Lion Hound said:
Would be amazing, however...He's an Avid Isles fan. So if he went that route it would be with them, not with the Rangers.
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Opportunity and fit matters a ton when it
Comes to stuff like this.

These guys want to pick their spot and also slot themselves into a situation where they can have the best chance at a massive second contract coming off of their ELC. Fandom rarely plays a role.
 
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nyr2k2 said:
Laba is really solid in his own end, I'd hate it if they don't at least give him a chance to stick at center.
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He’s more likely to start at the wing when he gets to NYR but Chytil’s in his second year of a 4 year contract now that could leave a spot open when time for a new contract comes.
 
GoAwayPanarin said:
Opportunity and fit matters a ton when it
Comes to stuff like this.

These guys want to pick their spot and also slot themselves into a situation where they can have the best chance at a massive second contract coming off of their ELC. Fandom rarely plays a role.
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Rarely plays a role?
John Tavares after saying he wanted to stay on LI couldn't pass up the opportunity to play with his childhood team.
Adam Fox, Kevin Shattenkirk forced their way to the NY Rangers.
Elais Lindholm was a huge Bruins fan. Plenty of places wanted him
Terasenko grew up a Red Wings fan. he signed there.
 
Lion Hound said:
Rarely plays a role?
John Tavares after saying he wanted to stay on LI couldn't pass up the opportunity to play with his childhood team.
Adam Fox, Kevin Shattenkirk forced their way to the NY Rangers.
Elais Lindholm was a huge Bruins fan. Plenty of places wanted him
Terasenko grew up a Red Wings fan. he signed there.
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Almost all of those guys were UFAs with NHL experience. Tarasenko and his fandom signed in Ottawa year prior because the money was there. Shattenkirk didn’t force his way anywhere, he was a UFA.

How many college UFAs going into their ELCs picked their spot? Rangers traded for Fox before that became a thing for him. These kids want their money ASAP.

If fandom played a role, Hayes and Vesey would have been Bruins out of college.
 
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Lion Hound said:
Rarely plays a role?
John Tavares after saying he wanted to stay on LI couldn't pass up the opportunity to play with his childhood team.
Adam Fox, Kevin Shattenkirk forced their way to the NY Rangers.
Elais Lindholm was a huge Bruins fan. Plenty of places wanted him
Terasenko grew up a Red Wings fan. he signed there.
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Apart from what GoAwayPanarin wrote, you've mentioned a handful of cases among thousands of players and signings. I think that would qualify it as rare.

Hagens is very likely to go 1st overall. Lindros is the only 1st overall player I can recall who refused to play for his draft team, and that had nothing to do with his fandom.

Yes, for some players, fandom plays a role, but it is very seldom the only or even most important reason behind where they sign. For most players, money, living conditions and winning trump any emotional ties they may have to a particular team.
 
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I remember a lot of people (or a small number of loud people) speculating that Kreider wouldn't sign here because he would instead go the free agency route and sign in Boston.

That stuff very rarely happens. Very rarely. If guys go the UFA route it's almost always because they want to pick an organization they think is a better fit for them, which could mean it's better run, known for better player development, has some immediate openings for them, etc. The fandom thing, is very rarely a thing.
 
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guys i wasn't really serious about the Hagens thing

If anyone chooses to spurn their draft team and force their way to NYR, let's hope that Häagens-Dazs
 
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nyr2k2 said:
I remember a lot of people (or a small number of loud people) speculating that Kreider wouldn't sign here because he would instead go the free agency route and sign in Boston.

That stuff very rarely happens. Very rarely. If guys go the UFA route it's almost always because they want to pick an organization they think is a better fit for them, which could mean it's better run, known for better player development, has some immediate openings for them, etc. The fandom thing, is very rarely a thing.
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I remember the Kreider thing, and then of course it wasn’t a thing, everyone always says that’s gonna be a thing and then of course it’s hardly ever a thing.
 
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noncents said:
guys i wasn't really serious about the Hagens thing

If anyone chooses to spurn their draft team and force their way to NYR, let's hope that Häagens-Dazs
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Yikes! Hahaha.

This is probably my favorite thread that I follow on this board. Very little DOOM. Lots of info and some optimism. Thanks guys!
 
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nyr2k2 said:
I remember a lot of people (or a small number of loud people) speculating that Kreider wouldn't sign here because he would instead go the free agency route and sign in Boston.

That stuff very rarely happens. Very rarely. If guys go the UFA route it's almost always because they want to pick an organization they think is a better fit for them, which could mean it's better run, known for better player development, has some immediate openings for them, etc. The fandom thing, is very rarely a thing.
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Marchessault turned down an ELC from the Rangers for that exact reason. He felt he had a better shot at making the 4th line elsewhere.
 
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SnowblindNYR said:
So he would rather not win?

/sarcasm
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I know this is sarcasm, but I will respond anyway:

The no 1 priority for hockey players is to earn a living. The average NHL career is 2 years, I think. If you ask depth players if they would rather sign a 5 million dollar contract with the Sharks or a 1 million dollar contract with a contender, they will pick the Sharks every time.

Winning the Cup is a great goal to have, but nobody is going to sacrifice a life of luxury at a marginal shot to lift the Stanley Cup.

We as fans can romanticise the Cup until we're blue in the face. But for players, especially depth players, it's different.

If you've already made your millions, it's of course a different debate.

Marchessault opting to sign with Columbus was 100% for monetary reasons.
 
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Amazing Kreiderman said:
I know this is sarcasm, but I will respond anyway:

The no 1 priority for hockey players is to earn a living. The average NHL career is 2 years, I think. If you ask depth players if they would rather sign a 5 million dollar contract with the Sharks or a 1 million dollar contract with a contender, they will pick the Sharks every time.

Winning the Cup is a great goal to have, but nobody is going to sacrifice a life of luxury at a marginal shot to lift the Stanley Cup.

We as fans can romanticise the Cup until we're blue in the face. But for players, especially depth players, it's different.

If you've already made your millions, it's of course a different debate.

Marchessault opting to sign with Columbus was 100% for monetary reasons.
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Agree, I would just change a word "luxury" to "financial security" that players seek for themselves and their families.
 
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Agents also take a % of a players money too and living in NYC costs more than it does in most other NHL cities.

It's common sense that a UDFA coming out of college, Europe or the CHL to a contending team is less likely to make that team than he would a bottom feeding NHL team and that can be the difference between the AHL and NHL and AHL salaries are not a very large fraction of an NHL salary. It's somewhere between 70 to 95 K for someone signing their first North American pro contract who ends up in the minors and pretty much 950 K and up if you can play instead for a bottom NHL team. Cut out the agents 10% or so and as referenced with NYC cost of living the team a UDFA choose can matter a lot. Rempe living with the Quick family no doubt helps him quite a lot and the Quick's get a free babysitter and someone about as menacing as a Rottweiler to take on would be housebreakers.
 
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Production in the NCAA is never a bad sign but it is a far cry from a solid determinant of pro success.

As someone who has followed the NCAA for ages, you really have to look at the underlying characteristics of a player and try to see how they could mold and shape their game to fit at the NHL level. As I say so often, Smith, not McDonagh, was the big point producer for Wisconsin in the NCAA. But with the lack of time and space at this level, McDonagh ended up with more offense simply by the virtue of being able to use his mobility to earn space in a way Brendan Smith never was.

We look at Carl Hagelin- he used his speed in the NCAA and you could see he had it- but he was much more of a east-west possession player for Michigan. He didn't have the hands (or vision) for that in the NHL and so he used his best natural asset to reform his game and become a long term bottom 6 winger.

Kreider scored at a modest pace for most of his time in the NCAA, and did not do as much around the net work as he does now. He speed was his skill set, and the poor bastard couldn't find the puck when it was between his skates at the NHL level for years before he was able to redifine his game.

So when you look at Laba, it's great news that he's a top scorer and drawing attention. But the big thing you want to look at is what kind of player and role do we think with his skill set that her can carve out at this level. Because the number of mid round picks that have solid NCAA careers that become 70 point scoring wingers is pretty low. So with Laba, my biggest question is whether his defense can come along enough at this level to be much more than an Anthony Duclair clone.
 
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