Speculation: 2024-2025 General Discussion III: No pressure JBB!

[Stormbreaker]

Just don't trade Howard please.

 

[LordStanlersCup]

Just a stupid thought I had:

Buffalo: Boeser + LA's 2nd + Perbix

Vancouver: TBL 2026 1st + Goncalves + TBL 2025 4th

Tampa: Tuch

Boeser has a M-NTC and is a UFA after this season. If I was Buffalo's GM I genuinely have no idea what I would do. You pretty much have to build through the draft and they suck at player development

 

[DistantThunderRep]

Boeser has a M-NTC and is a UFA after this season. If I was Buffalo's GM I genuinely have no idea what I would do. You pretty much have to build through the draft and they suck

Don't need the end of that sentence.

 

[HoseEmDown]

Just a stupid thought I had:

Buffalo: Boeser + LA's 2nd + Perbix

Vancouver: TBL 2026 1st + Goncalves + TBL 2025 4th

Tampa: Tuch

Is there some other Alex Tuch I don't know about because that's a horrible deal for us. The Buffalo one would be a good add but not at the cost of a 1st, 2nd, 4th, Goncalves and Perbix.

 

[JTBF81]

Just a stupid thought I had:

Buffalo: Boeser + LA's 2nd + Perbix

Vancouver: TBL 2026 1st + Goncalves + TBL 2025 4th

Tampa: Tuch

I think Vancouver might consider it (although they may want a better player or prospect than Goncalves), but I don't see Buffalo agreeing. They seem to want a top 6 C or top 4 caliber RD as the main piece in exchange for Tuch, and Tampa isn't offering that here. I'd think Boeser also exercises his ntc as soon as Buffalo is mentioned, because it's Buffalo and they're terrible.

 

[Rschmitz]

Is there some other Alex Tuch I don't know about because that's a horrible deal for us. The Buffalo one would be a good add but not at the cost of a 1st, 2nd, 4th, Goncalves and Perbix.

This is what it feels like to get Hosed

 

[DistantThunderRep]

Is there some other Alex Tuch I don't know about because that's a horrible deal for us. The Buffalo one would be a good add but not at the cost of a 1st, 2nd, 4th, Goncalves and Perbix.

We still have a second and fourth this year. Those are extras, we aren't going to improve without moving a first. Gage is progressing well, but is easily replaceable. And Perbix is replaceable as an extra defenseman as is.

 

[JTBF81]

We still have a second and fourth this year. Those are extras, we aren't going to improve without moving a first. Gage is progressing well, but is easily replaceable. And Perbix is replaceable as an extra defenseman as is.

Yeah, Tampa would do the deal most likely, but Buffalo isn't getting what they probably want and likely declines. If Tampa could somehow trade for Dobson or Andersson, or idk really who as a top 6 C that would work, then maybe.

 

[ccman68]

Is there some other Alex Tuch I don't know about because that's a horrible deal for us. The Buffalo one would be a good add but not at the cost of a 1st, 2nd, 4th, Goncalves and Perbix.

that offer is pretty much nothing. i guess there is some risk goncalves could pop off, but everything else in that trade is just worthless. a single 1st for 2 playoffs runs with tuch would be great value

 

[Zwui21]

There we have our trade target for the summer, hopefully lol

 

[Point21]

From ESPN

 

[JTBF81]

From ESPN
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Is this just a proposal or is this being reported as an actual trade?

 

[JTBF81]

From ESPN
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Nm, I found the article. Good, that price seemed a little steep imo.

 

[Felonious Python]

link to article (it's just a suggested trade)

Rantanen traded again? Utah loading up? Six trades we want to see before the NHL deadline

How many more blockbusters will take place before 3 p.m. Friday? Here are six deals we'd love to see.

www.espn.com

I don't really see why Seattle would do the deal. Maybe they audition Atkinson for the rest of the season, but they're retaining on Gourde for a 3rd round pick. By that logic, we could just send them a 4th-5th round pick and get him full price.

 

[Five Alarm Fire]

link to article (it's just a suggested trade)

Rantanen traded again? Utah loading up? Six trades we want to see before the NHL deadline

How many more blockbusters will take place before 3 p.m. Friday? Here are six deals we'd love to see.

www.espn.com

I don't really see why Seattle would do the deal. Maybe they audition Atkinson for the rest of the season, but they're retaining on Gourde for a 3rd round pick. By that logic, we could just send them a 4th-5th round pick and get him full price.

It’s a steep price to pay but I would consider it. Probably would pull the trigger. Peterka could explode here, he’s only 23 and has put up good numbers on a bad team.

Agreed the assets could be balanced a little bit between Utah and Buffalo.

 

[HoseEmDown]

We still have a second and fourth this year. Those are extras, we aren't going to improve without moving a first. Gage is progressing well, but is easily replaceable. And Perbix is replaceable as an extra defenseman as is.

It's not the pieces that we are trading It's who we are trading them for that i don't like. I do like Tuch and think he would be a good add but feel like we can do better for those assets. I would target someone closer to what Hagel was when we got him, not near 30 and will want one last big deal when his contract is up.

Maybe you can take out Goncalves and Perbix and replace with like a Schmidt and Fortier and it would be better. Don't like weakening our depth that isn't great to begin with.

 

[Rschmitz]

We still have a second and fourth this year. Those are extras, we aren't going to improve without moving a first. Gage is progressing well, but is easily replaceable. And Perbix is replaceable as an extra defenseman as is.

that offer is pretty much nothing. i guess there is some risk goncalves could pop off, but everything else in that trade is just worthless. a single 1st for 2 playoffs runs with tuch would be great value

Yeah, Tampa would do the deal most likely, but Buffalo isn't getting what they probably want and likely declines. If Tampa could somehow trade for Dobson or Andersson, or idk really who as a top 6 C that would work, then maybe.

Ya'll got Hosed

 

[DistantThunderRep]

It's not the pieces that we are trading It's who we are trading them for that i don't like. I do like Tuch and think he would be a good add but feel like we can do better for those assets. I would target someone closer to what Hagel was when we got him, not near 30 and will want one last big deal when his contract is up.

Maybe you can take out Goncalves and Perbix and replace with like a Schmidt and Fortier and it would be better. Don't like weakening our depth that isn't great to begin with.

We gave up 2 firsts and 2 "roster" players for Hagel. How is this move comparable in the value? We are giving up significantly less.

 

[DFC]

It would be shocking if we didn't do anything. Friedman is reporting that JBB is busy, so something is coming.

 

[Rschmitz]

From ESPN
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In a vacuum, I take this instantly.

First Gourde, that's cheap for someone who could be a big difference maker(or not, if he's hobbled). Worth the cost.

Peterka is 23 years old and is creeping toward a ppg. He currently makes nothing, and you could potentially lock him up for cheap long term or bridge him for 3-4 million. It's the kind of age/production that we love to target. That being said....he's still left handed and on the smaller side, the inverse of Tuch. Not an ideal fit, we need size and a right handed shot. We've also been lectured to quite a bit on this board that Buffalo doesn't want futures but players, so don't mention this to them unless we are giving up key pieces off our roster....

All of the above taken into account, it's trade season and you can't just cherry pick players that fit perfectly at fair value. If the above were offered or nothing else, yes we take it. We can also trade Peterka in the offseason for a more ideal fit.

We gave up 2 firsts and 2 "roster" players for Hagel. How is this move comparable in the value? We are giving up significantly less.

You're taking the bait

 

[AlwaysSunnyInTampa]

It would be shocking if we didn't do anything. Friedman is reporting that JBB is busy, so something is coming.

Probably not on a game day but here's hoping it's soon

 

[FinnLightning26]

I would love to get Peterka. I've been impressed every time I've seen him play.

 

[DFC]

In a vacuum, I take this instantly.

First Gourde, that's cheap for someone who could be a big difference maker(or not, if he's hobbled). Worth the cost.

Peterka is 23 years old and is creeping toward a ppg. He currently makes nothing, and you could potentially lock him up for cheap long term or bridge him for 3-4 million. It's the kind of age/production that we love to target. That being said....he's still left handed and on the smaller side, the inverse of Tuch. Not an ideal fit, we need size and a right handed shot. We've also been lectured to quite a bit on this board that Buffalo doesn't want futures but players, so don't mention this to them unless we are giving up key pieces off our roster....

All of the above taken into account, it's trade season and you can't just cherry pick players that fit perfectly at fair value. If the above were offered or nothing else, yes we take it. We can also trade Peterka in the offseason for a more ideal fit.



You're taking the bait

It's likely that Buffalo is only interested in roster players. But... the fact that this is out there means someone from Buffalo leaked it. Can't see them doing that if they weren't trying to gauge interest.

I'm kind of afraid to think what we might offer for Tuch, given the contract and the rising cap.

 

[Stammertime91]

I wouldn't complain if we gave up Geekie for Tuch.

364 days a year: Buffalo sux

Today: gimme your best Sabres for my AHL player