2024-2025 Blues Trade Proposals Thread.

[ds774622]

As much sense as Parayko makes to the Leafs for the Leafs. He makes sense here to the Blues and probably to about 20 other teams in the NHL. You don't move him unless as others have said there's a young high end defenseman coming back. Don't like it? Fine, look elsewhere.

There's just no shot you can convince me that we come out break even trading Parayko for Knies, Kampf, Cowan, and a 1st. That doesn't make sense for either teams long-term outlook.

It would be really fun to have Knies and Snuggerud together sure given their college connection. But where do we fit all of these guys in?

Bolduc is already at the NHL level, Holloway is currently a top 6 contributor at 23, Buchnevich is signed long term, Neighbors just signed an extension this season, Stenberg is probably a year or two away. That's 5 primary left wings. That's also not factoring in Cowan or whoever. Sure one of those players may not pan out the way you like but 4 are already on the NHL roster, 2 have been tried at center and there weren't great results. There's just no need to add more wingers or late 1sts in an event where we ship out Parayko.

If they or whomever wants a Faulk or a Schenn or a Leddy or a Fowler, sure lets talk. But moving out the area we know we don't have internal solutions to to add to an already rather large surplus doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

I don't think these types of roster upgrades, from a Blues perspective, have a likelihood of happening at the TDL. These are more summer/pre-draft transactions.

Leveraging Parayko for someone younger like Knies+ (and short-term cap dumps) would also require moving a forward for a defenseman. Then you start talking about flipping Kyrou or Neighbours or a prospect for a D-man and the moves work in tandem. But yes, Toronto isn't a good partner for a d-man replacement in a Parayko deal.

It's an interesting thought experiment, trying to add and subtract while preserving value. But I'd swoon for Knies.

 

[bleedblue1223]

I hope Army is able to make some sort of hockey trade that benefits the Steen era, at the expense of this season, and they use the summer to fix whatever roster issues come from it.

Not to the same scale, but like the Lakers acquiring Luka, and then figuring out the ideal roster in the summer. Maybe it's a Byfield, a Buffalo D, one of the other young D, or someone else. I want to build up that next core with another major piece.

 

[ChicagoBlues]

The more I get into it, the more any deal for Nemec starts with Bolduc, not Neighbours.

 

[Brian39]

You're right. Puckpedia for some reason has 26-27 highlighted in bright red. I thought that meant it was this year and didn't look at the dates. My bad. It's my fault for not looking more carefully, but I still miss cap friendly It was much more readable than any of the current options..

It makes it a better deal for us, but I still don't pull the trigger for all the reasons you laid out.

They have it highlighted as a 'potential lockout' year. It is probably my least favorite aspect of their format, because it absolutely looks like a 'current year' highlight since they include all previous years of the contract on the player's page.

 

[bleedblue1223]

Dreger is saying there are 4 teams with serious interest in Schenn. Mentioned price for Toronto could be equivalent of 2 1sts, 1st + Cowan/Minten/Danford.

 

[Blueswin]

Dreger is saying there are 4 teams with serious interest in Schenn. Mentioned price for Toronto could be equivalent of 2 1sts, 1st + Cowan/Minten/Danford.

Who would you take of the 3? Cowan/Minten/Danford.

 

[bleedblue1223]

Who would you take of the 3? Cowan/Minten/Danford.

Cowan is the clear best of the 3, I like the other 2 and they are more high floor/low ceiling types, but I think they have a NHL future. Danford probably fills a bigger need than Minten.

 

[StlBigFly]

I think if Toronto said they’d give me max domi, their 2026 1st and any one of their prospects for Schenn I’d tell them that Philly has Scott Laughton available and that was probably the aisle they should be shopping in. Not sure I’d do it. If I had to I’d probably want Danford because I feel we have a lot to process as it goes for 19-21 year old forwards.

Schenn’s interested teams - 4?

Canucks JT Miller-lite replacement seems mega obvious to me and my guess at the source of the “let’s get both Schenns” rumor. Also the Canucks are the type of crazy to trade guys with term midseason.

Vegas because Friedman indicated they tried for him previously.

Toronto because their media groups need clicks and every single time a potential center is available they discuss which prospect will be traded every deadline. Pretty much can’t be the source of the let’s get both Schenns rumor because the salary cap. Luke was already a victim to torontos cap. They aren’t fitting 10 million worth of Schenns.

And I can’t decide the 4th? Any team that would have ties to the Schenns or a specific need for Brayden’s skillset?

 

[Spektre]

Dreger is saying there are 4 teams with serious interest in Schenn. Mentioned price for Toronto could be equivalent of 2 1sts, 1st + Cowan/Minten/Danford.

Two articles in the athletic in the last 3 hours contemplating Schenn to Toronto. Lots of smoke at least

 

[shpongle falls]

That would be the mammoth sized return they mentioned earlier.

I’d be hesitant to trade Schenner at this point now that it looks like the team
has finally woken up. Listening to the Long Shift Ryan Suter interview he talks about how great a guy and captain Schenn is and how he’s like the glue that holds the good locker room culture together or something along those lines.

But I guess ultimately I’m going to trust Army’s judgement on this one.

 

[LGB]

Danford's production is not impressive, but what I have seen of him I've liked.

 

[Dr Robot]

Danford's production is not impressive, but what I have seen of him I've liked.

His name is too close to Sanford, we can’t risk it.

 

[BlueDream]

His name is too close to Sanford, we can’t risk it.

Risk what?

We’ve never won a Cup without someone named “-anford” on the team.

 

[A Real Barn Burner]

Risk what?

We’ve never won a Cup without someone named “-anford” on the team.

As long as If we trade for him the media reports it as Canford just to keep the magic working

 

[BlueMed]

Who would you take of the 3? Cowan/Minten/Danford.

I'd take any of them for Schenn. The question is whether Toronto is willing to deal any of those guys for a player without salary retention.

 

[ChicagoBlues]

I'd take any of them for Schenn. The question is whether Toronto is willing to deal any of those guys for a player without salary retention.

I’m pretty sure a few members here strongly advocated for Minten to somehow join the Blues.

 

[ChicagoBlues]

His name is too close to Sanford, we can’t risk it.

You never know! I might have a Big Dummy reaction. It’s like OCD n shit.

 

[jjniner]

My concern to trading Schenn…. Holloway and Kyrou both appear to have the ultimate respect for the captain and from what I have witnessed, Dylan’s effectiveness is unwavering when he hasn’t played on BS’s wing.

 

[MortiestOfMortys]

I hope we don’t trade Schenner. He’s the captain, and he’s a true Blue in every sense of the word. I feel like we’re always looking for guys like him, and they’re hard to find.

But at the same time… all good things must end, he doesn’t fit our window anymore, and I’d get it if we wanted to get while the getting was good. I think we’ll regret it for awhile, but ultimately it could be a good thing for us.

With that said… I hope all of this smoke around a TOR trade scenario is just meant to drive up the bidding price. A 2026 1st and Cowan/Minten is fine, but decisively not more than that. The 1st is future trade fodder, and Cowan/Minten probably don’t crack our top-5 prospects right now. To me, it stinks of Zach Dean, where the draft pedigree outweighs the actual prospect value; I.e. we’d be buying high on prospects who probably won’t move the needle that much. It’s fine. Is fine worth it, tho?

I’m much more excited by a prospective trade with CAR or LAK, but Schenn holds the cards in where (or if) he goes.

 

[TurgPavs]

Schenn's playing his 1000th NHL game tonight, so you have to wonder if they have been waiting until after tonight's game......

 

[kimzey59]

I hope we don’t trade Schenner. He’s the captain, and he’s a true Blue in every sense of the word. I feel like we’re always looking for guys like him, and they’re hard to find.

But at the same time… all good things must end, he doesn’t fit our window anymore, and I’d get it if we wanted to get while the getting was good. I think we’ll regret it for awhile, but ultimately it could be a good thing for us.

With that said… I hope all of this smoke around a TOR trade scenario is just meant to drive up the bidding price. A 2026 1st and Cowan/Minten is fine, but decisively not more than that. The 1st is future trade fodder, and Cowan/Minten probably don’t crack our top-5 prospects right now. To me, it stinks of Zach Dean, where the draft pedigree outweighs the actual prospect value; I.e. we’d be buying high on prospects who probably won’t move the needle that much. It’s fine. Is fine worth it, tho?

I’m much more excited by a prospective trade with CAR or LAK, but Schenn holds the cards in where (or if) he goes.

I'd put Cowan pretty close to Stenberg.

Dvorsky
Snuggles
Lindstein
Stenberg
Cowan

Minten doesn't do anything for me.

 

[Spektre]

My concern to trading Schenn…. Holloway and Kyrou both appear to have the ultimate respect for the captain and from what I have witnessed, Dylan’s effectiveness is unwavering when he hasn’t played on BS’s wing.

I like Schenn the player. I'm not sure if Army has been playing 4D chess by having Holloway and Kyrou play with Schenn (or it's just a coaching decision), but Schenn looked cooked last year. If the Blues can get a 1st, plus another 1st type aspect, I'll say it's an absolute steal.

 

[BleedBlue14]

I'd put Cowan pretty close to Stenberg.

Dvorsky
Snuggles
Lindstein
Stenberg
Cowan

Minten doesn't do anything for me.

The benefit of Minten is that he can likely play in the lineup for us this season. The downside of this trade is we'd have an extremely young center in our middle 6 barring someone isn't brought in.

I actually like the prospects of a Schenn trade being centered around Minten more than Cowan and that's mainly due to me believing Minten will stick at center and not believing Cowan will. I just don't see any reason at all to bring in Cowan. I don't necessarily think he's a better prospect than Stenberg I think he's pretty similar in a lot of ways like you had said. We already have Buchnevich, Holloway and Neighbors under contract. Bolduc's in there, Stenberg likely could be a LW. I'm fairly confident that is a good enough LW grouping to be a competitive team. We're just much weaker down the middle now and in the future barring change. I wouldn't mind Danford being a part of the deal either. But I think that's asking for quite a bit.

 

[kimzey59]

The benefit of Minten is that he can likely play in the lineup for us this season. The downside of this trade is we'd have an extremely young center in our middle 6 barring someone isn't brought in.

I actually like the prospects of a Schenn trade being centered around Minten more than Cowan and that's mainly due to me believing Minten will stick at center and not believing Cowan will. I just don't see any reason at all to bring in Cowan. I don't necessarily think he's a better prospect than Stenberg I think he's pretty similar in a lot of ways like you had said. We already have Buchnevich, Holloway and Neighbors under contract. Bolduc's in there, Stenberg likely could be a LW. I'm fairly confident that is a good enough LW grouping to be a competitive team. We're just much weaker down the middle now and in the future barring change. I wouldn't mind Danford being a part of the deal either. But I think that's asking for quite a bit.

Is Minten really better than Alexandrov?

Dvorsky is the start of addressing the Center position, and then you have first rounders the next two years to further address that issue(and this years is probably going to be another top 10 pick). Minten would not be a long term piece. He's a placeholder until a better player comes along.

 

[simon IC]

I think if Toronto said they’d give me max domi, their 2026 1st and any one of their prospects for Schenn I’d tell them that Philly has Scott Laughton available and that was probably the aisle they should be shopping in. Not sure I’d do it. If I had to I’d probably want Danford because I feel we have a lot to process as it goes for 19-21 year old forwards.

Schenn’s interested teams - 4?

Canucks JT Miller-lite replacement seems mega obvious to me and my guess at the source of the “let’s get both Schenns” rumor. Also the Canucks are the type of crazy to trade guys with term midseason.

Vegas because Friedman indicated they tried for him previously.

Toronto because their media groups need clicks and every single time a potential center is available they discuss which prospect will be traded every deadline. Pretty much can’t be the source of the let’s get both Schenns rumor because the salary cap. Luke was already a victim to torontos cap. They aren’t fitting 10 million worth of Schenns.

And I can’t decide the 4th? Any team that would have ties to the Schenns or a specific need for Brayden’s skillset?

NJ? Perhaps a deal involving Schenn and Nemec?