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2024-2025 Blues Trade Proposals Thread.
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Brian39
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I actually wouldn't be too surprised if Power is the guy who eventually gets moved if they decide to move one of the big 3 D in the group.
Byram appears to have gained a bit more trust from the coaching staff than Power. Byram is playing against a higher quality of competition than Power and Dahlin. Byram is getting more defensive zone usage than both. Byram is getting 1:30 a night more than Power at even strength. Power has an edge in PP time (by 40 seconds) and PK time (by 19 seconds), but the presence of Dahlin ensures that neither Byram/Power will be the top unit QB.
I think there is a legitimate argument that if they only keep two of the three, the Sabres organization is leaning toward believing that Byram is the better fit as the #2 guy behind Dahlin (who is their clear #1 and very likely untouchable). Right or wrong, the local media appears to be circling around Power as the whipping boy on the back end for his (legitimate) defensive lapses.
I don't think they should move any of the big 3 D men. Power and Byram have a few more years before they are eligible for trade protection and Buffalo has absolutely zero cap constraints for the next couple years. They can absolutely "afford" to keep all 3 in the short-to-medium term and still improve the roster around them. I don't think subtracting any of them solves their defensive issues.
But their GM just badly botched a press conference trying to calm down the fan base and the season is quickly slipping away again. Kevyn Adams is very likely feeling the pressure and believing that he will be out of a job in a few months unless things change quickly.
If they move one of those D, I think that they will be looking to get the best 'hockey trade' possible instead of getting the best value futures package. What 'hockey trade' offer would include a better player than Kyrou? They are on basically every no trade list around the league. Any 27+ year old good enough to make the primary return is going to have the trade protection to block the move. They can't take a guy with just 2-3 years of term remaining and risk that player walking away.
They need a sub 27-year old player who is locked into a long term deal. And they need that player to be a top of the lineup player now, not someone who they think can grow into that role. Is anyone trading them a center that fits that bill mid-season? A D man? Would Adams even be interested in making a D for D swap, knowing damn well that he is very likely going to be giving away the better overall player?
A Byram/Power trade only makes any kind of sense if you believe that Adams is trying to make a season (and own job) saving trade. He is dealing from a position of desperation and I don't think anyone is giving him the perfect fit player in return. While I don't think Kyrou (or any high skill winger) is the player that turns their season around, I also don't think that anyone is giving them that perfect-fit player.
Kyrou is a damn good player. He is under contract for 6 years after this one and even if you believe he is overpaid now, his cap number is going to be a clear value by 2025/27 at the latest. He can't block a trade to Buffalo. He ticks a lot of the boxes that Buffalo needs checked if they are moving one of the D.
I think it is pretty unlikely, but I wouldn't be so quick to assume that a Power for Kyrou centered deal isn't remotely possible.
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That's where my heads at too. They might even want a defenseman back so maybe Leddy and a 2nd?
Sadly we don't have a 2nd for the next 87 years.
Edit: this biggest issue is i do Believe NYR will be asking for a 1st+ for Miller. Might be a better decision to look at trading for him on the offseason.
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I'd take that flier (or is it flyer? hhmmmm). He is not worth a 1st. I question his inner drive.
Don't know, too tired to English. It's what my phone autocorrected to. Haha
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Gotta assume 30 other teams would beat that offer if Miller is available. If we get Miller, we're giving up a decent prospect. Not Snuggerud or Dvorsky but anyone else likely on the table.
Power is one of the players I had in mind in a Kyrou deal. It has to be less than zero chance they’re moving Dahlin. They just traded a 2C for Byram. I can’t see them trading him right after trading for him.
Buffalo is wanting both a top 6 player, and a top 4 D, to the best of my knowledge. They are still stocked full of prospects. I think it’s easier for them to trade for top 4D players than a top 6 player of Kyrou’s value.
It really does appear that Adams is both reaching the desperation level, and over his head in job duties. The top executive of an organization should never appear as inept as he did in the latest interview. It’s been reported they were looking to make a big move earlier in the season.
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I love the player and have for years. He has all the tools to be a great partner for Parayko and I'd be thrilled to buy low on him if the Rangers are actually selling low. That said, I'm not convinced that they are. I know the fans have soured on him, but I'm not convinced that NHL front offices feel the same way. I wouldn't be surprised if his trade value has remained unchanged.
I don't think we have the assets to make a mid-season trade work. They have cap space to add already and no matter how down you are on Miller, he is an above-replacement level player. You don't get better by removing him from the lineup for picks. We don't have a D man to send them (who we would move) that upgrades Miller.
I saw something saying Cozens is the one on the block for BUF. Had a very promising season two years ago but has struggled to replicate. Still only 23. Maybe a change of scenery gets him back on track? Idk what his injury history is or how much that has factored into his regression.
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Two upper body injuries last season and a "head injury" a couple years ago.
No way I would trade for Cozens. It would cost a lot to get him. He doesn’t look like a legitimate top 6 player but he’s paid like one.
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Such an odd start to a career for Cozens. He broke out and then immediately regressed back.
I’m not sure I would want to take on the risk of the contract, but there’s an equally likely possibility that the contract looks pretty good in 2-3 years. Too risky for me to want the Blues to pay up probably what it would take.
I’m not sure I would want to take on the risk of the contract, but there’s an equally likely possibility that the contract looks pretty good in 2-3 years. Too risky for me to want the Blues to pay up probably what it would take.
This upcoming draft is weak outside of the top-7. I’d trade the Blues 1st round pick today to the Rangers for K’Andre, but we’d probably need to send a cap-dump back. (Faulk, Saad, Leddy, Texier, Schenn).
NYR may need to send back something small, but I’d be down with something like that.
NYR may need to send back something small, but I’d be down with something like that.
I was checking out the islanders….
They’re gonna be so different soon.
They have Anders Lee, Brock Nelson, JPG, Matt Martin and Kyle Palmeri who all are 32+ and all 2 years or less under contract.
And they’re pretty close to last place.
I dunno if they have anything we want but I bet they want first round picks.
They’re gonna be so different soon.
They have Anders Lee, Brock Nelson, JPG, Matt Martin and Kyle Palmeri who all are 32+ and all 2 years or less under contract.
And they’re pretty close to last place.
I dunno if they have anything we want but I bet they want first round picks.
Sounds like Canuck fans not happy with Elias P’s trajectory… what would we need to add to Kyrou to get them to bite?
That contract is not appealing at all. Plus it's strapped with tons of bonuses and and a full NMC
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Full NMC from 25-26 until 31-32. 10m Signing bonus next year and 5M signing bonus each year from 27-28 through 31-32
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