Prospect Info: [2024 - 102nd] Owen Protz (LD) - Brantford Bulldogs (OHL)

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It never stops....Okay....so let's try this but let's make it more difficult....

Ben Merrill is terrible
Logan Sawyer is underperforming
Tyler Thorpe is just invisible

Note that there are players who are just off limits. And not worth my magic....Jack Smith...Luke Middlestadt.....Emmett Croteau...there's a freakin limit to any magic...

Sorry, it doesn't ring true ; put some heart in it.
 
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Owen Protz year offensively is rather....dissapointing. Early but strange decision to go with him while Kevin He was available. A LD with rather a low ceiling...wonder what they saw....
 
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Owen Protz year offensively is rather....dissapointing. Early but strange decision to go with him while Kevin He was available. A LD with rather a low ceiling...wonder what they saw....
Having seen a few Brantford games this year, I'd actually say he's been having a very good D+1 season all told, he's probably the second best dman on the team by a decent margin. He'll never be much of a point producer, but he's on target to beat his total from last year by 10 points, so there's some mild progression on that front. It's really not his game though, I wouldn't put much stock into that, he's very much a defense first type.
 

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Having seen a few Brantford games this year, I'd actually say he's been having a very good D+1 season all told, he's probably the second best dman on the team by a decent margin. He'll never be much of a point producer, but he's on target to beat his total from last year by 10 points, so there's some mild progression on that front. It's really not his game though, I wouldn't put much stock into that, he's very much a defense first type.
Depends on his usage too. If no pp time, can't be surprised
 

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Owen Protz year offensively is rather....dissapointing. Early but strange decision to go with him while Kevin He was available. A LD with rather a low ceiling...wonder what they saw....

I'm not sure why you find it disappointing. Protz wasn't really drafted for his offensive abilities. He was drafted because he's a big body who plays a hard nosed brand of hockey.

Think Arber Xhekaj in the sense that Arber wasn't an offensive defenseman, either. But he's big, plays mean, and has a presence. They probably saw something similar in Protz and instead of finding an undrafted like Arber and try convincing him to choose you, they selected one.
 

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Beck? Hutson? Struble? Tuch? Fowler? Kapanen?

All taken after the first round.
Yeah, but for that I forgot to add for 2024.

That draft kinda sucked and it makes it worse when you look at players you liked that went after a certain pick and they're doing better to way better.

Protz will never be a big score sheet guy, but he hurts people.
 

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Yeah, but for that I forgot to add for 2024.

That draft kinda sucked and it makes it worse when you look at players you liked that went after a certain pick and they're doing better to way better.

Protz will never be a big score sheet guy, but he hurts people.
For what it's worth, I thought Protz was one of the more impressive players at this past summer's rookie camp. He skates well, has good offensive instincts and skills and hits like a truck.

Any offence he can add will just be a bonus.,
 

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For what it's worth, I thought Protz was one of the more impressive players at this past summer's rookie camp. He skates well, has good offensive instincts and skills and hits like a truck.

Any offence he can add will just be a bonus.,
100%.

I just meant it more as the Habs scouting staff did a really shitty job this draft.

The ones outside of the 1st round that are doing ok are Thorpe, Protz and Sawyer.
 

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100%.

I just meant it more as the Habs scouting staff did a really shitty job this draft.

The ones outside of the 1st round that are doing ok are Thorpe, Protz and Sawyer.
I would suggest that If you can secure more than one bona fide prospect past the first round, it’s been a good draft. It’s missing on your first round picks that undermine your franchise, whether your team is in the process of a re-build or attempting to build on or maintain an already established level of success.

While one may question some of the current regime’s personnel decisions, their drafting record has, at least to date, been insightful.
 

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100%.

I just meant it more as the Habs scouting staff did a really shitty job this draft.

The ones outside of the 1st round that are doing ok are Thorpe, Protz and Sawyer.

You can argue Koivu and Bergqvist are doing well in the sense that they're both 18 year olds who spent most of their year so far playing in their country's top league in Liiga and SHL, respectively.

We thought they'd be playing on their U20 teams or at worst loaned to a second division team (Mestis & Allsvenskan). But they made their main rosters.
 

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You can argue Koivu and Bergqvist are doing well in the sense that they're both 18 year olds who spent most of their year so far playing in their country's top league in Liiga and SHL, respectively.

We thought they'd be playing on their U20 teams or at worst loaned to a second division team (Mestis & Allsvenskan). But they made their main rosters.

Vecvanags made a bad decision for his playing time and development but outside of that i can't think of a pick that isn't doing reasonably well.
 
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Vecvanags made a bad decision for his playing time and development but outside of that i can't think of a pick that isn't doing reasonably well.

Not a fan of playing in BCHL, for both Vecvanags and Merrill. I think they're both the most disappointing picks from the 2024 draft.

Merrill hasn't been drafted by a CHL team, so he pretty much had the BCHL if he wasn't going to Harvard.

If the CHL/NCAA agreement had been in place before the season, I think Vecvanags would stay in the Q. Because he clearly wants to go the college route. But personally would have preferred he was at AB.
 
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Not a fan of playing in BCHL, for both Vecvanags and Merrill. I think they're both the most disappointing picks from the 2024 draft.

Merrill hasn't been drafted by a CHL team, so he pretty much had the BCHL if he wasn't going to Harvard.

If the CHL/NCAA agreement had been in place before the season, I think Vecvanags would stay in the Q. Because he clearly wants to go the college route. But personally would have preferred he was at AB.
Could he not have quit the BCHL and gone to Acadie-Bathurst as soom as the agreement was signed
 

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Could he not have quit the BCHL and gone to Acadie-Bathurst as soom as the agreement was signed

Yes he could as other players left the BCHL to join the CHL team that drafted them as soon as the CHL/NCAA agreement was official.

However, I don't know if AB would take him back after he left them to go to BCHL not long after they selected him in the Import Draft.

That's just a guess on my part, of course.
 

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