Players are still going to argue balls and strikes.Yuck. I hate robo umps.
I like the variability and the human element to the game.
Players are still going to argue balls and strikes.Yuck. I hate robo umps.
I like the variability and the human element to the game.
i'm for it. how many times can an ump screw up calling strikes when the catcher's mitt is touching the ground? not calling strikes when the ball clearly goes through the middle of the strike zone?Yuck. I hate robo umps.
I like the variability and the human element to the game.
Yuck. I hate robo umps.
I like the variability and the human element to the game.
When you consider how difficult of a job calling balls and strikes is, most umpires do a really good job. There's a twitter account I follow that grades the umps after each games and most games the umpires are like 95% accurate and 95% consistent. There was a guy in the WS that they graded as 100% accurate, which was the first time they had ever done that. With balls-strikes, most guys do very good work. It's the things that you're already allowed to review that are harder (and even then, most guys do a great job when you look at it).I'd be fine with keeping human umps if they got rid of the bad ones.
Too many f*** faces for me to be against using technology to get shit right.
they get to the stay because of the union.I'd be fine with keeping human umps if they got rid of the bad ones.
Too many f*** faces for me to be against using technology to get shit right.
Awesomely said. Was going to say basically the same.When you consider how difficult of a job calling balls and strikes is, most umpires do a really good job. There's a twitter account I follow that grades the umps after each games and most games the umpires are like 95% accurate and 95% consistent. There was a guy in the WS that they graded as 100% accurate, which was the first time they had ever done that. With balls-strikes, most guys do very good work. It's the things that you're already allowed to review that are harder (and even then, most guys do a great job when you look at it).
Like you said, get rid of the guys who suck, and it's not even an issue.
For those curious, the Mets have 6 players in the BA Top 100 Prospects. Although, one of them is Kodai Senga.
Delusional.Yankees’ switch hitter, Aaron Hicks will stay in left field
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Call me crazy but I never really saw Scott Rolen as "HOF" material watching him. 4th ever in gold gloves is good, I dunno.
I don't disagree, because I don't consider him a top 100 player, but 70 bWAR is not too shabby. Here's the company he's in:Call me crazy but I never really saw Scott Rolen as "HOF" material watching him. 4th ever in gold gloves is good, I dunno.
Ron Santo+ (15) | 70.5 | 9397 | R | ||
102. | Gary Carter+ (19) | 70.2 | 9019 | R | |
103. | Carlos Beltrán (20) | 70.1 | 11031 | B | |
Scott Rolen (17) | 70.1 | 8518 | R | ||
105. | Ed Delahanty+ (16) | 69.6 | 8402 | R | |
106. | Rick Reuschel (19) | 69.5 | 1304 | 3548.1 | R |
107. | Tim Raines+ (23) | 69.4 | 10359 | B | |
108. | Manny Ramirez (19) | 69.3 | 9774 | R | |
109. | Tony Gwynn+ (20) | 69.2 | 10232 | L | |
110. | John Smoltz+ (21) |
He was a much better hitter than Ozzie Smith who got in solely for his glove. He was 10th best 3B all time by WAR. Aside from Beltre who was better from his era?Call me crazy but I never really saw Scott Rolen as "HOF" material watching him. 4th ever in gold gloves is good, I dunno.
Definitely some good names there, I guess he flew under the HOF radar for me.I don't disagree, because I don't consider him a top 100 player, but 70 bWAR is not too shabby. Here's the company he's in:
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Ozzie Smith did legit work with the glove. I'm not trying to say he was a slouch, there was just a never time watching him where I said to myself "this dude is going into the HOF, no doubt".He was a much better hitter than Ozzie Smith who got in solely for his glove. He was 10th best 3B all time by WAR. Aside from Beltre who was better from his era?
It's criminal and a fireable offense that the Yankees didn't take care of this in the offseason and they're ok trotting Hicks back out there. Not sure how the front office expects to win a World Series with him in left.Yankees’ switch hitter, Aaron Hicks will stay in left field
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1 | Alex Rodriguez | 3rd | 34.3% | 390 | 77 | 22 | 117.6 | 64.3 | 90.9 | 55.4 | 2784 | 10566 | 2021 | 3115 | 696 | 2086 | 329 | 1338 | .295 | .380 | .550 | .930 | 140 | *6*5DH/3 | |||||||||||||
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2 | Manny Ramirez | 8th | 28.9% | 226 | 69 | 19 | 69.3 | 39.9 | 54.6 | 53.4 | 2302 | 8244 | 1544 | 2574 | 555 | 1831 | 38 | 1329 | .312 | .411 | .585 | .996 | 154 | *7*9*DH | |||||||||||||
3 | Gary Sheffield | 10th | 40.6% | 158 | 61 | 22 | 60.5 | 38.0 | 49.3 | 56.7 | 2576 | 9217 | 1636 | 2689 | 509 | 1676 | 253 | 1475 | .292 | .393 | .514 | .907 | 140 | *9*7*5*D6H/3 | |||||||||||||
4 | Todd Helton | 6th | 52.0% | 175 | 59 | 17 | 61.8 | 46.6 | 54.2 | 53.4 | 2247 | 7962 | 1401 | 2519 | 369 | 1406 | 37 | 1335 | .316 | .414 | .539 | .953 | 133 | *3H/7D9 | |||||||||||||
5 | Adrián Beltré | 1st | 163 | 55 | 21 | 93.5 | 48.7 | 71.1 | 55.7 | 2933 | 11068 | 1524 | 3166 | 477 | 1707 | 121 | 848 | .286 | .339 | .480 | .819 | 116 | *5D/H64 | ||||||||||||||
6 | Bobby Abreu | 5th | 8.6% | 95 | 54 | 18 | 60.2 | 41.6 | 50.9 | 56.7 | 2425 | 8480 | 1453 | 2470 | 288 | 1363 | 400 | 1476 | .291 | .395 | .475 | .870 | 128 | *9DH7/8 | |||||||||||||
7 | Carlos Beltrán | 2nd | 126 | 52 | 20 | 70.1 | 44.4 | 57.3 | 58.1 | 2586 | 9768 | 1582 | 2725 | 435 | 1587 | 312 | 1084 | .279 | .350 | .486 | .837 | 119 | *8*9*DH/73 | ||||||||||||||
8 | Andy Pettitte | 6th | 10.7% | 128 | 44 | 18 | 60.2 | 34.1 | 47.2 | 61.4 | 108 | 196 | 6 | 27 | 1 | 13 | 0 | 6 | .138 | .163 | .184 | .346 | -10 | 256 | 153 | 3.85 | 117 | 1.351 | 531 | 521 | 0 | 3316.0 | 3448 | 288 | 1031 | 2448 | *1/H |
9 | Omar Vizquel | 7th | 23.9% | 120 | 42 | 24 | 45.6 | 26.8 | 36.2 | 55.4 | 2968 | 10586 | 1445 | 2877 | 80 | 951 | 404 | 1028 | .272 | .336 | .352 | .688 | 82 | *65H4/D379 | |||||||||||||
10 | Jimmy Rollins | 3rd |
Beltre is a no brainer. It'll be interesting to see how much the Astros scandal impacts Beltran's Hof vote.This is how I would vote in 2024, not how likely they are to get in.
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[TD]48.7[/TD]
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[TD]2933[/TD]
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[TD]8.6%[/TD]
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