OT: 2023 MLB Thread

[Deleted member 23124]

Source: Correa changes course, agrees with Mets

In a stunning turn, shortstop Carlos Correa has agreed with the Mets on a 12-year, $315 million deal, eschewing a previous agreement with the Giants, a source confirmed.

www.espn.com

Correa will go to 3rd. Can Baty play 1st?

Or the OF.

 

[NYR94]

Wonder what medical concern SF had and why the Mets don't share that concern. Or is that smoke and mirrors because Correa signaled he had a change of heart? In any event, Steve Cohen is just laughing at the rest of MLB right now. Wow.

On WFAN they were speculating that Boras made up the medical issue as an excuse to nix the Giants deal and sign with the Mets instead. Supposedly someone from the Giants said there was no medical concern.

 

[Machinehead]

So that happened lol

 

[RosensRug]

The other owners must LOVE Cohen

 

[Mac n Gs]

This team is gonna be so fun to watch, but it's also going to hurt just as much when something stupid inevitably derails them by July/August

 

[NYR94]

Okay I don't know what the WFAN guys were talking about, this is from a SF reporter

 

[mas0764]

Meanwhile the Mets couldn't hit in September or October and are just letting it ride.

Guess they aren't.

Source: Correa changes course, agrees with Mets

In a stunning turn, shortstop Carlos Correa has agreed with the Mets on a 12-year, $315 million deal, eschewing a previous agreement with the Giants, a source confirmed.

www.espn.com

Correa will go to 3rd. Can Baty play 1st?

Doesn't Pete Alonso play first? Can Baty play outfield?

 

[Machinehead]

The whole thing is very odd.

Boras is the agent so I'm assuming games were played.

Good for the Mets tho.

 

[Ruggs225]

Wow, just wow! This offseason has been ridiculous.

Such a weird feeling after living with the Wilpons for son long.

 

[Machinehead]

Steve Cohen in 2032 when the Mets already have seven shortstops and Wander Franco becomes a free agent

 

[romba]

You think Cohen's paying alot of luxury tax now, just wait until these contracts age and he continues getting the best free agents year after year and they keep adding new 'Cohen' taxes which he couldn't give two shits about. He will be funding the poorer team's yachts and vacas with those taxes so everyone will be happy (except Yankees, Red Sox and Dodgers fans). Man oh man!

 

[Machinehead]

 

[jerseyjinx94]

Cohen makes enough in 1 day to pay Correa’s entire 2023 salary

 

[Machinehead]

Cohen makes enough in 1 day to pay Correa’s entire 2023 salary

This is why I laugh when people say "oh millionaires fighting with billionaires" during a work stoppage.

That's like a kindergartener with his wrists and ankles tied fighting Brock Lesnar.

 

[Ben Grimm]

The Mets spent more in free agency in one night ($315m) than the Pirates have spent since 2010 ($207m). Rays are at $231M. Reds are at $252M. The Mets are the new Yankees and I love it!

 

[Bob Richards]

This is why I laugh when people say "oh millionaires fighting with billionaires" during a work stoppage.

That's like a kindergartener with his wrists and ankles tied fighting Brock Lesnar.

I think a lot of people really can’t visualize how much larger a billion is than a million. I think their proximity in the “big number names” makes people think they’re closer then they really are.

Frank Lindor’s monster contract over 10 years is 2% of Steve Cohen’s reported net worth lol.

 

[Machinehead]

I think a lot of people really can’t visualize how much larger a billion is than a million. I think their proximity in the “big number names” makes people think they’re closer then they really are.

Frank Lindor’s monster contract over 10 years is 2% of Steve Cohen’s reported net worth lol.

If you took a million dollars in $100 bills, stacked it, and stood on it, you would be about 8 feet tall.

If you did the same with a billion dollars, you would be able to wash the windows of the top floor of the Empire State Building.

 

[sbjnyc]

You think Cohen's paying alot of luxury tax now, just wait until these contracts age and he continues getting the best free agents year after year and they keep adding new 'Cohen' taxes which he couldn't give two shits about. He will be funding the poorer team's yachts and vacas with those taxes so everyone will be happy (except Yankees, Red Sox and Dodgers fans). Man oh man!

IMO Correa is the only new player with a contract that'll probably age badly. Aside from Senga, the other new players have 1 or 2 year contracts (ignoring options).

Correa is really the only add (so far) and I think the length of these contracts is shorter than expected.

Verlander for deGrom
Quintana for Bassitt
Senga for Walker

Resigned Diaz Ottavino and Nimmo

Narvarez means either Nido or McCann (or both) are gone but its only 1 year. Based on last year he is not an upgrade on anyone.

Am I missing anyone?

 

[Taluss]

I think a lot of people really can’t visualize how much larger a billion is than a million. I think their proximity in the “big number names” makes people think they’re closer then they really are.

Frank Lindor’s monster contract over 10 years is 2% of Steve Cohen’s reported net worth lol.

Easiest way to visualize it is;

1 million seconds is 12 days
1 billion seconds is 31 years

Idk a $ example. But yeah the difference is crazy.

 

[Rangers in 7]

Boras leaks the Mets on Correa to get the giants to up the years until he's 57? Jesus, a 13 year deal for a 28 year old with a history of leg and ankle injuries?

LOL

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

LOL

All of a sudden its a "good deal" lol.

Again, I respect the effort and commitment to the team from the owner but this is an Angels-esque offseason if I've ever seen one.

 

[Rangers in 7]

Meanwhile the Mets couldn't hit in September or October and are just letting it ride.

LOL

 

[Machinehead]

Easiest way to visualize it is;

1 million seconds is 12 days
1 billion seconds is 31 years

Idk a $ example. But yeah the difference is crazy.

Here's one.

If you were given a million dollars day for the rest of time, you would have as much money as Elon Musk in the year 2516.

 

[Kocur26]

The Mets have their new Bobby Bonilla 12 years for Correa ?
Hysterical

 

[Rangers in 7]

All of a sudden its a "good deal" lol.

Again, I respect the effort and commitment to the team from the owner but this is an Angels-esque offseason if I've ever seen one.

i just LOL'd because then he goes to the mets

also this is not an angels-esque offseason

also for the yankee fans complaining, you guys did it first in the 2000's so i dont want to hear you bitching

To put things in perspective, at a modest 3% annual growth, the Yankees $206 million payroll in 2005 becomes $350 million in 2023 so I don't really see an issue with the size of the payrolls today. The question is how the rest of the league compares.

The Yankees had a $206 million payroll in 2005 which was 315% of MLB median.

In 2022, the Dodgers had a $286 million payroll which was about 210% of the MLB median. In 2022, 21 out of 30 teams had payrolls over $100 million.

So it seems the gap is closing between the top payrolls and the rest of the league. You just need enough quality to get into the playoffs, which have been expanded twice (?) in that time. Once you're in the playoffs, you don't need to be the best overall team to win. In the NBA, the high seed has an 80% probability of winning a 7 game series on average. In hockey it would take a 51 game series for the higher seed to have an 80% chance of winning and in baseball it is I think a 73 game series. Anything can happen in the playoffs. I'm going by memory so I may be off on some of the numbers but baseball has repeatedly shown you don't need to be a top spender. It hasn't done much for the yankees mets or even the LA who only won in a pandemic shortened season.

Going back to 2000, the median payroll was $56 million compared to the Yankees $92 million so things were a lot more even back then but that's the time when the Yankees accelerated their spending. I think things are headed back in that direction despite exlamations of the media who only look at the absolute size of the payrolls and not how they've changed over time.

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