2023-24 Bill Masterton Memorial Trophy finalists: Frederik Andersen, Connor Ingram, Oliver Kylington | Winner: Connor Ingram

[Koivu11]

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[Buck Naked]

It's great and all that these guys have fought through things to come back to the game and they deserve a ton of credit for it, but this trophy is honestly stupid. It's all like "my injury is bigger than yours!"

The fact that the PHWA is voting on it makes it even dumber.

 

[Golden_Jet]

It's great and all that these guys have fought through things to come back to the game and they deserve a ton of credit for it, but this trophy is honestly stupid. It's all like "my injury is bigger than yours!"

The fact that the PHWA is voting on it makes it even dumber.

Doesn’t have to be an injury, can be a health issue.

 

[Buck Naked]

Doesn’t have to be an injury, can be a health issue.

I know it can. Doesn't make it any more reasonable for people to vote on.

 

[Golden_Jet]

I know it can. Doesn't make it any more reasonable for people to vote on.

What lol, just cause you don’t like the trophy, doesn’t make it stupid.
Not to mention, I was just stating the trophy is more than just injuries.

 

[tfwnogf]

Stone's heroic recovery snubbed

 

[CH]

I thin Sean Couturier is the most significant snub.

 

[Scrantonicity 2]

I thin Sean Couturier is the most significant snub.

Having to play for Torts is rough but I think this is still Kylington's.

 

[Suntouchable13]

It's great and all that these guys have fought through things to come back to the game and they deserve a ton of credit for it, but this trophy is honestly stupid. It's all like "my injury is bigger than yours!"

The fact that the PHWA is voting on it makes it even dumber.

I agree somewhat but I don’t think these guys are competing for this trophy, or really want to win it. You don’t necessarily want to be a Masterton nominee that means you were dealing with something awful. Generally speaking.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Nice to see Freddie getting this recognition. At mid-season it seemed his career was probably over. Comes back in March and plays the best hockey of his career.

 

[OKR]

What lol, just cause you don’t like the trophy, doesn’t make it stupid.
Not to mention, I was just stating the trophy is more than just injuries.

It is a stupid trophy tho.

 

[CraigBillington]

It is a stupid trophy tho.

Less dumb than the Messier Leadership Award

 

[TheBeard]

Surprised this wasn't given to the entire Sharks goaltending tandem.

 

[Victor Z]

Andersen wins AINEC. At least that's how it ought to go.

 

[tarheelhockey]

It is a stupid trophy tho.

Recognizing people for overcoming challenges is stupid?

 

[HolyGhost]

It's great and all that these guys have fought through things to come back to the game and they deserve a ton of credit for it, but this trophy is honestly stupid. It's all like "my injury is bigger than yours!"

The fact that the PHWA is voting on it makes it even dumber.

What have they fought back from? Have any had career ending injuries or suffered nervous breakdowns? Seriously. Do not know the back stories accept for one who had back to back injury years, but there was no.talk of them being career ending.


If it is purely based upon coming back from an injury? Stone has it sewed up next year

 

[NVious]

Stone's heroic recovery snubbed

There's always next year's injury

 

[ManofSteel55]

Stone's heroic recovery snubbed

He should be a multi-time winner by now.

Andersen wins AINEC. At least that's how it ought to go.

Kylington has a good chance too, especially with the focus the world seems to have on mental health and getting help for mental health issues.

 

[Buck Naked]

What lol, just cause you don’t like the trophy, doesn’t make it stupid.
Not to mention, I was just stating the trophy is more than just injuries.

It's stupid because journalists are making it a competition on who overcame the most. Makes no sense in having a trophy like that. It's dumb.

I agree somewhat but I don’t think these guys are competing for this trophy, or really want to win it. You don’t necessarily want to be a Masterton nominee that means you were dealing with something awful. Generally speaking.

I agree with that. Another reason why this trophy is stupid. No one wants it.

What have they fought back from? Have any had career ending injuries or suffered nervous breakdowns? Seriously. Do not know the back stories accept for one who had back to back injury years, but there was no.talk of them being career ending.


If it is purely based upon coming back from an injury? Stone has it sewed up next year

Well, they wouldn't be nominated for the trophy from the beginning if the injuries were career ending. It's about fighting back and overcoming health issues. But those things should not be a competition that journalists gets to decide who's got the sadder story and give them a trophy for it.

 

[Martin Skoula]

Recognizing people for overcoming challenges is stupid?

This may sound crazy, but you can recognize people for overcoming challenges without making it a sad story popularity contest where their challenges are stacked against each others. It’s a stupid category for a competitive trophy, you can recognize people in other ways.

Nothing worse than being the Masterton runner up, you can’t even have tragedies happen to you good enough to win you chump, just absolutely choked your whole personal tragedy instead of doubling down and milking it.

 

[Chrispy]

This may sound crazy, but you can recognize people for overcoming challenges without making it a sad story popularity contest where their challenges are stacked against each others. It’s a stupid category for a competitive trophy, you can recognize people in other ways.

Nothing worse than being the Masterton runner up, you can’t even have tragedies happen to you good enough to win you chump, just absolutely choked your whole personal tragedy instead of doubling down and milking it.

In that way, is the problem with the Masterton award or is it announcing finalists?

Just announce the award on the night of the show. We really don't need talking heads to debate who is most "deserving" of this award.

 

[Our Lady Peace]

This award shouldn't be "who deserved it more". All players are worthy but Ingram played the whole year as opposed to the other players so I'll give it to him.

They should just announce a winner at the awards show rather than release the "finalists". This isn't a competitive award.

 

[1specter]

I'd imagine Andersen has this locked up

 

[GMR]

Every time Ryan Reaves skates a shift, it’s a feel good story. He should get the award.

 

[aryanoboi]

Im split between Andersen and Kylington. Both of them had remarkable comebacks into the NHL. I thought kylington’s career was done after he left the team again during training camp, but here we are.