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They’ll likely double down, rather than admit the approach doesn't work.
Prospect Info: 2023 1st Rd Selection - #28 OA (via BOS, WSH) - C, Easton Cowan [London Knights, OHL; [Height 5.11 -- Weight 185]
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I think we have a systemic problem than players problem
Even with the players we have, we should look better, more organized
We looked like a pee wee team that didn't know what we were doing
For me what I'm seeing is last years training camp and then the absolute dominance for the first half of the OHL season got people thinking this guy is a blue chipper, Marner 2.0 type of prospect.
But since then it just hasn't been at that level. Don't get me wrong, he hasn't been bad by any means, in fact he's been great, but the expectations and the bar he set with that run hasn't been one he's been able to maintain.
Obviously the people attacking him and crapping on a kid for a "disappointing" tournament are low life losers. But on the other hand the the people in here vilifying anyone who dares to make valid criticism are just weird - it's not personal.
Me trying to be objective about his future, lots of good traits, good prospect. His skating this years has me a bit concerned about his NHL upside. For those who watch him regularly, did he try to bulk up and lose some speed, injury issue maybe? The lack of quickness is concerning.
But since then it just hasn't been at that level. Don't get me wrong, he hasn't been bad by any means, in fact he's been great, but the expectations and the bar he set with that run hasn't been one he's been able to maintain.
Obviously the people attacking him and crapping on a kid for a "disappointing" tournament are low life losers. But on the other hand the the people in here vilifying anyone who dares to make valid criticism are just weird - it's not personal.
Me trying to be objective about his future, lots of good traits, good prospect. His skating this years has me a bit concerned about his NHL upside. For those who watch him regularly, did he try to bulk up and lose some speed, injury issue maybe? The lack of quickness is concerning.
This is the epitome of the dark side of our fanbase.
1. Can’t even spell the players name they know so much about.
2. Name call.
3. Offer very little substance to the conversation.
Wait, let me try…
Eastone Cawen is the suxor. Took a bad penalty and tried too hard. Total bust, no hope, it’s over. Trade him and a 2nd for Sidney Crosby.
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Cowan stunk.
Whatever.
He's just a kid.
But f*** did he play bad. He didn't play the worst on the team, but based on minutes played, I would say he played the worst on team. Entire team.
Whatever.
He's just a kid.
But f*** did he play bad. He didn't play the worst on the team, but based on minutes played, I would say he played the worst on team. Entire team.
Reasonable post.
I just don’t think anyone in here is saying he played “well”. I won’t take time to defend or make excuses - and it wouldn’t be hard to do. Easton himself would say he could have been better.
Again, I will say it. We had close to 30% of our fanbase posting Cowan into our lineup before camp started. Our very fair, calm and savvy fans have no clue what they are watching. They sure do love shouting at the moon though.
Anyway…I will likely sit out for a bit. Until some semblance of common sense and intelligent hockey talk return.
Yeah I bet there is a significant overlap between the fans that were sure he was going to make the lineup this year and those who want to see him traded over 5 WJC games.
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Did Cowan play well? Not really, he definitely deserves some of the criticism.
Was Cowan really given a chance to succeed with a team like that in the first place? Not really, nobody on this roster played well…this is a team game, no one player can change the fortunes of a team. The Oilers would have a cup every year then since McDavid was drafted.
I don’t know what people were expecting him to be. Nobody said he was going to be the next Matthews. The only reason people are saying he’s “overrated” is because the Leafs chose him.
When you get drafted or traded to the Leafs, then chances are TSN and SN will talk a lot about you.
A lot of non-Leafs fans hate that. They’re just salty why a team that has won nothing since 1967 still manages to be the centre of attention, while their little team is irreverent outside of the city they live in.
Let the kid develop and chill out.
On a side note, I’m not taking any international hockey seriously if Russia isn’t playing. Politics aside, they’re a powerhouse and if you’re not letting them play, you’re not really testing yourself. Same with “Four Nations” nonsense.
Do I couldn’t careless about the WJs.
Was Cowan really given a chance to succeed with a team like that in the first place? Not really, nobody on this roster played well…this is a team game, no one player can change the fortunes of a team. The Oilers would have a cup every year then since McDavid was drafted.
I don’t know what people were expecting him to be. Nobody said he was going to be the next Matthews. The only reason people are saying he’s “overrated” is because the Leafs chose him.
When you get drafted or traded to the Leafs, then chances are TSN and SN will talk a lot about you.
A lot of non-Leafs fans hate that. They’re just salty why a team that has won nothing since 1967 still manages to be the centre of attention, while their little team is irreverent outside of the city they live in.
Let the kid develop and chill out.
On a side note, I’m not taking any international hockey seriously if Russia isn’t playing. Politics aside, they’re a powerhouse and if you’re not letting them play, you’re not really testing yourself. Same with “Four Nations” nonsense.
Do I couldn’t careless about the WJs.
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I know he's shown a higher offensive ceiling in the OHL, and I'm the absolute last person's opinion you want to ask for about the London Knights. No expertise there, whatsoever.
But I thought the read on Cowan was that he had the upside of a middle six energy player type, not a line driver. What I saw at the tournament was that type of player, who maybe felt a bit too much pressure to carry the puck, take longer shifts, and generate offensively. You'd have to think that when he makes the jump to the professional level, less will be expected of him and any bad habits or poor decision-making in his game can be ironed out by coaching, development, and experience.
But I thought the read on Cowan was that he had the upside of a middle six energy player type, not a line driver. What I saw at the tournament was that type of player, who maybe felt a bit too much pressure to carry the puck, take longer shifts, and generate offensively. You'd have to think that when he makes the jump to the professional level, less will be expected of him and any bad habits or poor decision-making in his game can be ironed out by coaching, development, and experience.
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what I saw was a resemblance of a player who's played for too long at a level too easy - he's developed poor habits. He's been "that guy" for too long down there and has developed tunnel vision. Not sure what / if any effect this will have on his development but he certainly seems more one dimensional than he was.
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Exactly. I think people watched his stats and that insane point streak and instantly thought we got a high end talent. This is a workhorse player that benefits from a great system in London.
The sad part of this is limited options with players like this.
He was a fairly dominant Junior hockey player - last year. I watch a lot of Knight’s games. He was not good enough to make the Leaf’s at camp, IMO, too good to go back to Junior and not allowed to play in the AHL.
This is part of what we are seeing. What he needs is better competition to learn and adjust to his future role in the NHL.
He’s not a first line dominant player. Not a PP driver, top minute getter etc etc.
I honestly feel bad for the kid.
He was a fairly dominant Junior hockey player - last year. I watch a lot of Knight’s games. He was not good enough to make the Leaf’s at camp, IMO, too good to go back to Junior and not allowed to play in the AHL.
This is part of what we are seeing. What he needs is better competition to learn and adjust to his future role in the NHL.
He’s not a first line dominant player. Not a PP driver, top minute getter etc etc.
I honestly feel bad for the kid.
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Noting, he was Canada's leading scorer in the tournament. 1g, 2 assists. 3 points. Top scorer. The team didn't play well, it was poorly coached, poorly selected, and our guy lead the team in scoring. He isn't a high end talent, wasn't drafted in such a spot, and isn't expected to be that either. If you had other expectations, that's on you, not him. He is likely a decent, complimentary middle six guy, with energy, some grit, and a good 200 ft game. He's a 28th overall pick, not an elite lottery pick. That he lead the team in scoring, says a lot about the team, how "mid" it was, and about his positive effort.
If you think he played poorly, give your head a shake... his game was perfectly fine, other than the penalty.
If you think he played poorly, give your head a shake... his game was perfectly fine, other than the penalty.
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Anyone personally attacking Cowan on social media needs to go seek mental help.... Ridiculous.
Hockey Canada needs to start icing the best team possible. As opposed to picking players base functional roles
Andrew Gibson has no offensive game what so ever for OHL standards. Parekh would have been better choice
Andrew Cristall should have been on the team. He has size and skill, finishing touch
Michael Misa albeit young, is a top end talent. He has more points than Luca Pinelli
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Future #1 OA Candidate McKenna had one point, and was a -2... put that into perspective.
Seems like it's been a meh year for Cowan compared to the hype of last season.
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In context, Cowan led the team in scoring. Relative to his efforts and output, how dissatisfied can we be with a team that doesn't look like it was properly constructed, or worse; The Canadian program is in catastrophic decline. I wonder how many of us remember Don Cherry's prediction years and years ago, that given then current trends, the American program would surpass the Canadian program.
I think Cowan will be fine, and trading him now is obviously emotionally reflexive to an important (missed) annual goal in Canadian hockey. But has the saying, "Canada is Hockey. Hockey is Canada" ever had a darker connotation? Hockey Canada, like our country's government, needs to adjust course with impunity.
If I'm the organization with either Cowan or George I'm breathing a sigh of relief despite the team result, because in spite of the dumpster fire, they found ways to contribute. Cowan's fine.
I think Cowan will be fine, and trading him now is obviously emotionally reflexive to an important (missed) annual goal in Canadian hockey. But has the saying, "Canada is Hockey. Hockey is Canada" ever had a darker connotation? Hockey Canada, like our country's government, needs to adjust course with impunity.
If I'm the organization with either Cowan or George I'm breathing a sigh of relief despite the team result, because in spite of the dumpster fire, they found ways to contribute. Cowan's fine.
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