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Man Bear Pig said:
I don't even know where to begin with how many illegal moves he makes. Every pitch is a balk.
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Ball. With no one on base, it is a ball. With runners on, they'd be balks.

Also, it is like offside in football where Toronto is entitled to the better of ball or result of the play.
 
Have we talked about what the hell Garcia is doing on the mound? Why's he walking back and forth?
 
Bjindaho said:
Ball. With no one on base, it is a ball. With runners on, they'd be balks.

Also, it is like offside in football where Toronto is entitled to the better of ball or result of the play.
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I know the rule. I don't know why the umpires are letting him do it. It's so obvious.
 
Bjindaho said:
Ball. With no one on base, it is a ball. With runners on, they'd be balks.

Also, it is like offside in football where Toronto is entitled to the better of ball or result of the play.
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It's neither. The rule is it has to be deceiving to the runner or hitter. Since he does it everytime it is neither
 
Jojalu said:
It's neither. The rule is it has to be deceiving to the runner or hitter. Since he does it everytime it is neither
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1) You're not supposed to disengage from the rubber until you release the ball. He comes off it twice as he shuffles back and forth.

2) The pitching motion is supposed to be a smooth and continuous towards home plate (or at least continuous towards the ultimate direction of home plate to allow for things like guys wrapping back or torquing heavily). He starts and stops and goes back and forth multiple times

His delivery is illegal in multiple ways, and more egregious than other pitchers who have had to alter their deliveries to conform to umpire demands. But somehow he's allowed to keep it.
 
Jojalu said:
It's neither. The rule is it has to be deceiving to the runner or hitter. Since he does it everytime it is neither
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No, it isn't. It is illegal to disengage the rubber after starting his delivery OR move side to side in a deceiving manner.
 
Jojalu said:
It's neither. The rule is it has to be deceiving to the runner or hitter. Since he does it everytime it is neither
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Just because he uses an intentionally deceiving delivery on every pitch doesn't make it less deceiving
 
Bjindaho said:
No, it isn't. It is illegal to disengage the rubber after starting his delivery OR move side to side in a deceiving manner.
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That's just it. He's lifting both feet up before the pitch is thrown. It's clear as day that it's a balk. Probably the easiest balk to call too, there's nothing subtle about it like you see sometimes.
 
I just read a quote by Joey Votto about being in a labyrinth when you're in a hitting slump. Biggio is deep in that labyrinth.
 
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Bjindaho said:
Just because he uses an intentionally deceiving delivery on every pitch doesn't make it less deceiving
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How could that possibly disrupt your timing. Batter isn't loading until he lifts his leg, which is at the same point everytime.
 
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