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Blue Jays GDT: 2022 v2 | Thu, Apr 21 | @ BOS | 1:30pm ET/10:30am PT | Gausman vs Houck

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Worthy reminder that the Jays did have some good contact with RISP earlier but it was right as some defenders.

And then that play there.

Sometimes she goes, sometimes she doesn't. That's the way she f***ing goes, boys
 
Tough one to sit through as the pitching was good but the other side of the house was really lacking...
 
Tapia is somehow becoming one of the least likeable Jays in recent memory, and it’s only been like 2 weeks lol. Usually speed and hustle guys are likeable, but he’s missing the hustle component to that.

The Grichuk trade not looking great at the moment.
 
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I give everyone a break during cold games like that.

Funny how a guy with "tap" in his name has fewer tap hits than Kirk, the slowest runner on the team...probably in all of baseball.

There was some good movement on Kikuchi's pitches tonight. Let's hope that's not just a benefit of pitching in chilly, damp weather.
 
Cloned said:
Tapia is somehow becoming one of the least likeable Jays in recent memory, and it’s only been like 2 weeks lol. Usually speed and hustle guys are likeable, but he’s missing the hustle component to that.

The Grichuk trade not looking great at the moment.
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ye ive never seen a player with less hustle given what his strength as a player is.
 
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Villar? (the reason that 0% of the fanbase wanted him back)
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no, tapia. he almost never runs out his groundballs, and considering 99% of the balls he makes contact with are on the ground, its kinda irritating lol. villar is terrible too though lol.
 
How can i stream the audio feed of games? Sportsnet app? Or do I need to get MLB Gameday?

im gonna be golfing tomorrow afternoon and want to have the game on
 
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Wait... yesterday was on the manager? Or different games?
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The game we were up up 6-1 and we lose 12 -6

Yesterday - Zero outs runners on 1st and 2nd, and takes the bunt sign off for Tapia on a 3-1 count, Tapia couldn't hit the ground with a rock if he was standing on it. You know Tapia is a guaranteed out, so leave the bunt on for the entire AB. Runners on 2nd and 3rd puts more pressure on the pitcher/ catcher than runners in 1st and 2nd. I've never like the way Charlie manages the game.
 
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The game we were up up 6-1 and we lose 12 -6

Yesterday - Zero outs runners on 1st and 2nd, and takes the bunt sign off for Tapia on a 3-1 count, Tapia couldn't hit the ground with a rock if he was standing on it. You know Tapia is a guaranteed out, so leave the bunt on for the entire AB. Runners on 2nd and 3rd puts ore pressure on the pitcher/ catcher than runners in 1st and 2nd. I've never like the way Charlie manages the game.
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I honestly don't think Charlie ever put the bunt on.
 
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I honestly don't think Charlie ever put the bunt on.
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That's even worse, game management is in the managers hands. giving up an out is not the "in" strategy in todays game but when you got a guy as bad as Tapia at bat... moving the runners along and giving up an out is not the worse strategy.
 
Bluelines said:
The game we were up up 6-1 and we lose 12 -6

Yesterday - Zero outs runners on 1st and 2nd, and takes the bunt sign off for Tapia on a 3-1 count, Tapia couldn't hit the ground with a rock if he was standing on it. You know Tapia is a guaranteed out, so leave the bunt on for the entire AB. Runners on 2nd and 3rd puts more pressure on the pitcher/ catcher than runners in 1st and 2nd. I've never like the way Charlie manages the game.
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I think some people just like to blame the manager for everything.

Like... they lost a game by 6 runs. What is the manager supposed to do to change that?

As for last night, I wasn't against the bunt attempt and wouldn't have hated Tapia trying it, but if you want to blame Montoyo for the loss you have to assume that Tapia would have successfully advanced the runners, that the next batters would have brought at least one run in, and that they would have held on for the win.

Realistically, the offense failing to capitalize on multiple early scoring chances and then getting shut down the rest of the game has a hell of a lot more to do with the loss than Montoyo. That and Bo's late error that allowed Boston to take the lead.
 
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I was told one of Tapia's positives is how he'd run his ass off to beat out grounders.

He can't even do that going by last night's game. Him batting after Kirk is a disaster because if Tapia hits it, it's guaranteed to be on the ground for the most sure double play to ever come into being.

Collins made a shitty first impression for his lack of hustle but has more than made up for it with his hot steak and the alleged mountain of work he's putting in with the Jays pitchers. All Tapia does is swing at junk and ground out.

Once Teoscar is back, Tapia better go back to being a bench/rest day filler.
 
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I think some people just like to blame the manager for everything.

Like... they lost a game by 6 runs. What is the manager supposed to do to change that?

As for last night, I wasn't against the bunt attempt and wouldn't have hated Tapia trying it, but if you want to blame Montoyo for the loss you have to assume that Tapia would have successfully advanced the runners, that the next batters would have brought at least one run in, and that they would have held on for the win.

Realistically, the offense failing to capitalize on multiple early scoring chances and then getting shut down the rest of the game has a hell of a lot more to do with the loss than Montoyo. That and Bo's late error that allowed Boston to take the lead.
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A manager can identify when the pitcher has lost control of the game and get him out of the game way before it gets to 6 - 6, stop the other teams momentum. Some managers think its better for the pitcher to work through his problems so he becomes self reliant vs the manager coming in and pulling the pitcher when the other team is on a rallye. Personally I think it damages a pitchers confidence when you leave him in there too long.

I agree there is no guarantee that Tapia puts down a successful bunt, no guarantee that if he did and the runners advance to 2nd and 3rd that they would score. What it does do is it changes the mindset of the pitcher and catcher, that catcher BTW is Boston's 3rd stringer just called up, their top 2 are on Covid protocol. generally speaking pitchers with movement like Evoladi present a challenge to the catcher to block or catch with runners on 3rd. It just puts a different dynamic on the game with runners on 2nd and 3rd. If you believe that Charlie was letting a guy with a .200 BA and a .200 OBP just swing away at the plate, is that not a bit of incompetence? You let a guy who has proven to you he cannot get on base , swing away? If it was Springer, Bo or Vlad sure you let them swing away but a guy who is almost a for sure out with very little chance to do anything at the plate you do nothing, in order to let him in the end do nothing... I think most people saw this happening before it happened, we knew he was going to strike out. How did his AB help the team? For marginal players, managers should be able to manage them better than what we witnessed last night.
 
That's also a throw Bo makes if it's not so cold in Boston. He's been so good defensively. Kikuchi pitched well enough to win too. That's just one of those losses you chalk up to "shit happens"

Can't even really blame Charlie for the lineups right now because he's riding the hot hand with Collins, has a choice between a garbage can in Tapia or Biggio who might somehow be a worse hitter than the former now.

If Tapia is still getting that much time in when Hernandez is back then we have a problem. Otherwise? Eh.
 
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