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Figured we could get the ball rolling on this now. 1st round pick should be somewhere in the 20s.
Interesting call on Jake Richard.I always like to try identifying potential higher round (2nd to 7th round) gems. I really like guys who have the tools, but are underutilised at their team, who are clearly younger or still need to fill their frame (like Tanner Dickinson).
Some guys I'm looking at who might be available in the 2nd to 7th round
Vinzenz Rohrer
Niks Fenenko
Kyle Chyzowski
Luke Shipley
Jagger Firkus
Jake Richard
@DatDude44: As you know quite a lot of the USHL, can you chime in on Jake Richard? He seems to go totally under the radar. He's one of the younger players in the draft + still needs to grow into his frame while still contributing on his team. Read something like his skating needs to improve a bit? Seems like a great value pickup in the 5th-ish round.
...And while you're at it, what is your opinion on his teammate Owen Mehlenbacher?
Richard has similiar stick handling ability to Casey mittelstadt. He has natural in tight scoring instincts. He’s consistently smart with the puck whether it’s making a simple decision with it or a high end skill play. His physical strength and skating/pace are IMO the only two things holding him back from being a 1st rd type of pick. He has the vision and puck skills. I see Richard as a late bloomer boom/bust type of player.I always like to try identifying potential higher round (2nd to 7th round) gems. I really like guys who have the tools, but are underutilised at their team, who are clearly younger or still need to fill their frame (like Tanner Dickinson).
Some guys I'm looking at who might be available in the 2nd to 7th round
Vinzenz Rohrer
Niks Fenenko
Kyle Chyzowski
Luke Shipley
Jagger Firkus
Jake Richard
@DatDude44: As you know quite a lot of the USHL, can you chime in on Jake Richard? He seems to go totally under the radar. He's one of the younger players in the draft + still needs to grow into his frame while still contributing on his team. Read something like his skating needs to improve a bit? Seems like a great value pickup in the 5th-ish round.
...And while you're at it, what is your opinion on his teammate Owen Mehlenbacher?
He’s not a power forward at all lol he’s got a ton of skill thoInteresting call on Jake Richard.
Heading to UConn. They're calling him a power forward
“He’s going to be a high-end goal scorer in our league, if not next year then the year after. He’s going to be leading the league at some point,” Lumberjacks head coach Mike Hamilton told MuskegonSports.com.
Richard has similiar stick handling ability to Casey mittelstadt. He has natural in tight scoring instincts. He’s consistently smart with the puck whether it’s making a simple decision with it or a high end skill play. His physical strength and skating/pace are IMO the only two things holding him back from being a 1st rd type of pick. He has the vision and puck skills. I see Richard as a late bloomer boom/bust type of player.
Mehlenbacher is a big kid with natural hockey IQ. He’s got a sneaky good release but he’s at his best when he’s on the walls protecting pucks and making simple efficient un-sexy plays. He can play net front on PP and PK. His edgework, hip mobility and dexterity picking pucks out of tight spaces needs to improve but he’s a good under the radar player who’s game projects well to pro hockey. Lower ceiling safer floor type.
He’s not a power forward at all lol he’s got a ton of skill tho
Probably something around that yeah. Wouldn’t be surprised if Mehlenbacher doesn’t get picked, has a big year and gets drafted in his D+1Thanks for your insight!
Both of them haven't been ranked by any scouting agency yet, but where would you rank them? 4th/5th round for Richard and 6th/7th for Mehlenbacher?
I’d be surprised if Geekie fell that far in this draft. But if you want a big-bodied (or at least stocky) forward with potential for high-end scoring, Rutger McGroarty would be a good substitute. His skating issues are blown way out of proportion in my book.Is Conor Geekie going to be available with our pick? That's whom I'd take if he was there.
We’re not trading away our leading scorer who has one year left on a pretty good contract. We need to go all-in this year.Don’t see DA keeping this pick in this poor draft - he’s going to do something big at the draft, and I suspect Tarasenko will be involved.
If Tarasenko still wants to be traded, I think Army trades him and uses that money for a LHDWe’re not trading away our leading scorer who has one year left on a pretty good contract. We need to go all-in this year.
Trading Tarasenko and going all in are not mutually exclusive. The #1 LHD is a glaring hole, and Leddy is a bandaid, IMO.We’re not trading away our leading scorer who has one year left on a pretty good contract. We need to go all-in this year.
Or bothI'd definitely trade if there is a 26 or under top 4 LHD with higher potential available. Like Sanheim or Provorov. Tho, we would have to create more cap space (Scandella, Barbashev, or Tarasenko most likely)
I was just reading about both of those defensemen! Interesting. I am cautiously optimistic about both.I wouldn't mind Ivan Miroshnichenko if he fell to where the Blues picked. Otherwise I hope they could trade up for a decent D-prospect like Lian Bichsel or Pavel Mintyukov...or trade the pick for some help now.
I’d be surprised if Geekie fell that far in this draft. But if you want a big-bodied (or at least stocky) forward with potential for high-end scoring, Rutger McGroarty would be a good substitute. His skating issues are blown way out of proportion in my book.
Besides, who wouldn’t want a player with such a name.
I would not be against it, especially if it helps the Blues plan on trying to snag a defenseman that should be in play between picks 13 - 22.I like McGroarty as well. Jimmy Snuggerud is another interesting name (not only a name, but as a player; he's a physical right winger with a very heavy shot.) He's rated somewhere late-first/early-second. Maybe if we get another first for Tarasenko or a high second for Barbashev, we could take a chance on him or McGroarty?