They would be getting ~3M of cap space and staying in the first round. They also likely can trade Mrazek for another asset if they wanted and save Murray's cap hit completely, unlike with Murray who they're going to have to pay AND retain to get rid of.
Mrazek has negative value so you aren't moving up from #25 to #7 by adding him.
I mean, I don't take Jiricek, but yeah I agree with the sentiment. I'd add to get it done.
Absolutely nothing wrong with a 50 point 2C in 3 years who is a plus 30 and tips ice in your favour when he is on da ice .. he has great speed, he has great strength and he has hockey IQ for playing winning Cup type hockey .. if you want him to win da scoring title well go with someone else (that is wrapped up anywho for next 10 years easy)
We have da 25th pick not a top 10 pick my friend .. I did not even consider da top end of da 1st round as ZERO chance he gets us us
Like Scotty used to say and Joe says today .. NHL speed 1st, NHL size 2nd (Scotty) and NHL hockey IQ 3rd (Joe 2nd) .. when you find those 10-20 guys in each draft then you look to skill and prioritize according to team needs .. but no sense gambling on a highly skilled guy with not much else until later rounds
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I think there should be some retention also, Murray has $15M in actual cash still owed to him.
$15M in cash for a player in the AHL isn't something Ottawa can afford to do with their internal budgets.
Murray has HUGE negative value big cap hit and real $$ goes up each of the next 2 seasons too. Also, he hasnt had a decent season in 4 years and cant stay healthy.Mrazek has negative value so you aren't moving up from #25 to #7 by adding him.
Perhaps the offer is missing and simply overlooked Sandin from the Leafs side.
Da only thing I can add is I am told he was completely misused with Steelheads and played by himself most of time (as he can carry his own line) .. but I don't watch enough OHL games anymore to know .. I leave it up to a few friends who live/scout/coach in league for a living to tell me .. and of 5 guys I know who are still in da league all of them say he will only get faster and better as he plays with more talent .. 1 of them tells me it is possible he could be next PointThanks for the explanation. If you use the typical NHL e calculators, that are predictors of someone's offense at the NHL level, based upon their minor league stats, he is projected to be a 20 point C at the NHL level.
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NHL Equivalency calculator from dobberhockey.com
My question is, and was, what do you see in him, that suggests there is more offensive upside than he's shown so far?
The reason it could happen is because Ottawa nearly had a deal with Buffalo for their 16th pick and Ottawa giving up the 7th pick. Murray just wouldn't waive.
dat boi mad fast tho, be sk8in n dealin like its just anotha day at da craps table n he's shakin up
The idea came from the actual trade which was Murray retained + 7 + for 15. Essentially we take away the plus, they drop 10 more spots and no retention. Also gives them the ability to trade Mrazek and get out of both contracts.
That's a difficult trade to consider, the shiny #7 pick would help us down the road, but we would be committing to starting Murray which is a pretty big red flag for me, and you can't just bury that 6 million dollars or use him as a backup that would be like 10 million in net we can't afford.
In that case, I think the play is Fleury with Murray as the back up. I'm thinking Dubas has something other planned if it does happen, because spending what 11 million on goalies makes no sense for us.
No way this management team can reasonably gamble on Murray returning to his form from 5 years ago in such an important stage of the team’s development.
