GDT: 2022 NHL Draft Round 1 - Leafs Currently Pick 38th

[keonsbitterness]

Fine tribute by Grier.

 

[SprDaVE]

First and second round picks are the lifeblood of an NHL team. Philosophically, my hope is the Toronto Maple Leafs can invest properly in the future every year and keep the pipeline flowing at a healthy rate and provide varied positions with reinforcements on ELC's.

Make good picks, nurture prospects, promote them with structure and let them flourish.

This kind of betting, high volume churn and covering for poor signings and cap management just isn't my thing.

They are, so we moved down 13 spots in a weak draft to get rid of a bad contract. It wasn't a pure 1st round pick dump, it was a trade down. We still have a top 40 pick and the prospects between now and ours will be VERY similar in upside.

We picked Amirov, Knies, Robertson in the last 4 drafts, not counting Hirvonen and later round prospects. This is while being contenders.

There was no betting really. They signed someone they liked and he completely shit the bed. Every team makes those tough mistakes once in awhile, Dubas just made 2 in one off-season, but made a lot better signings that turned out great.

 

[Kelly]

Someone better? The same dude who my ex girlfriend left me for? wtf

 

[ToneDog]

I know your perspective on the moves, doesn’t make your argument accurate. It does suck losing some value, but sh!t also happens.
Mrazek dump cost 13 spots.
Ritchie dump also yielded Boosh.

You are not wrong but 1/2 year of Boosh for choice of a 2nd or 3rd.

 

[Nylanderthal]

It doesn't undo the fact that he completely f***ed up our goaltending situation. Although this move puts him in a good position to fix it once again.

How did they screw up the goaltending? They walked away from Freddie the flake, gave jack a chance and tried to insulate him with a career league average platoon guy and now has a clean slate. For the cost of sliding back 13 picks. GMs make moves, some work some don’t, would you rather this team be so arrogant they refuse to undo the mistakes and double down on them?

Lambert might fall to 38 lmao

 

[Menzinger]

Fine tribute by Grier.

Yep. Probably the best one of the evening

 

[The Podium]

Isaac Howard makes the most sense

 

[Canada4Gold]

OK dumb question is the draft the end of the 2021 season or the start of the 2022 season? I'm always confused how many years draft + 1 is

2021/22 is draft season. 22/23 is draft +1. 20/21 is draft -1

 

[Fogelhund]

Weird pick for San Jose. Filip Bystedt

 

[CaptainCrunch17]

Try to find the positives in the fine print. If Dubas had simply not called Mrazek or Ritchie 365 days ago we would have 2 extra draft picks. Oh well, he’s betting his job on it.

Dubas is terrible at asset and cap management. He keeps giving away high draft picks that could be used to draft some young impact players on ELC’s, that could actually help improve his cap challenges.

 

[diehardleafsfan9878]

leaning towards Gibson, if not the Flower

Fluery resigned in minny

 

[SeaOfBlue]

We also aren't keeing Boosh. High volume churn and a lack of sustained value.

So you are just flat out against rentals.

Literally every competitive team does this, and most of them can't supplant through other means like we can.

And I am not even a personal fan of rentals.

 

[TimeZone]

Isaac Howard makes the most sense

I can't see him being there at 38 though, realistically.

 

[Maplebeasts]

If this "someone better" turns out to be Del Bel Belluz I'm going to be quite upset. I hope someone else takes him before 38.

 

[The Podium]

Dubas is terrible at asset and cap management. He keeps giving away high draft picks that could be used to draft some young impact players on ELC’s, that could actually help improve his cap issues.

You mean guys like Sandin, Robertson and Knies?

Or Niemela?

 

[Hockey 4 Life]

We will still get an excellent prospect at 38. We also can still add picks by moving kerfoot and holl and clear their cap.

 

[ULF_55]

At least tomorrow the picks are much more rapidly done.

 

[Mitch nylander]

Two weird picks recently in Bystedt and Rinzel

 

[Morgs]

Isaac Howard makes the most sense

They can't honestly expect him to be there at 38. It has to be a guy that's undervalued ranking-wise based on their actual talent level:

Trikizov, Goyette, & Hutson make the most sense.

 

[Stephen]

Nobody would sneeze at Lyubushkin for the pick we gave up even without Ritchie involved, so Ritchie was effectively dumped for nothing. Unless you don't like Lyubushkin at all.

I have no issues with him taking these bets. Mrazek suffering 3 groin injuries with literally zero past history of groin injuries cost 2 med staff members their jobs including the Director and was about as bad as the bet could have worked out. A GM of an organization like this should not have to worry about their medical staff, but clearly, that medical staff has been costing us dearly (and not just with Mrazek; Andersen has struggled with injuries, and various skaters seem to have troubles keeping healthy at times).

I would like Dubas to actually see his bets through a bit more though. Ritchie barely given a chance but I guess at the non-existent price to move him, it wasn't worth seeing it through. Mrazek barely given a chance. If you are not giving these guys proper chances, then don't sign them. It is not like these are mediocre prospects who have no track record of success, and it is no surprise that Ritchie was able to figure it out and Mrazek will likely be no different (although CHI sucks and will make it hard for him).

I don’t want Dubas “betting” on anything. I want to see methodical building and stewardship of assets so we can have higher impact ELC’s giving us value as we try to win a championship.

Agree to disagree. This isn’t the way I want to see the team run.

 

[Wiseguys]

awesome trade, basically were trading Mazek for a #1 UFA goalie, who would have gone in the first round in his draft year, and pick #38. The cap space would have gone to the UFA goalie that they will pick up if the Leafs did draft that goalie. Ecxellent trade

 

[Alamo Leafer]

Fluery resigned in minny

wholly crap, I miss one day on hockey news fcol. Shame on me lol

 

[Holls Blackmail]

They are, so we moved down 13 spots in a weak draft to get rid of a bad contract. It wasn't a pure 1st round pick dump, it was a trade down. We still have a top 40 pick and the prospects between now and ours will be VERY similar in upside.

We picked Amirov, Knies, Robertson in the last 4 drafts, not counting Hirvonen and later round prospects. This is while being contenders.

There was no betting really. They signed someone they liked and he completely shit the bed. Every team makes those tough mistakes once in awhile, Dubas just made 2 in one off-season, but made a lot better signings that turned out great.

Eh, I know what you're saying but you're kind of arguing against yourself with the bolded statement.

In 4 years, not one of those is an every day NHLer. That's part of the problem; those ELCs aren't helping the big club while paying the superstars.

 

[al secord]

Did Lambert have mono?

 

[Racer88]

I'd love to know who "source" is

how high did they have Knies? that was a home run, gotta hope they have another pick like that in hand

How do we know that Knies is a home run…….he won’t even play for the Leafs next year so we won’t know for at least 2 years