2022/23 Roster Thread XI: Konecny, So Hot Right Now, Konecny

[flyerslducks]

#FreeFrost

right after he had a pretty good game too. He was making some nice plays in that 3rd period..meanwhile guys like newhook/boldy/etc are all getting the opportunity sigh

Awesome JVR news.

Recommit to the tank. Can’t escape destiny.

agree, just wish it didnt happen to jvr cus we need him to bring that deadline price up. He still has a lot of time to do that but it would've been nice to see him score more while the flyers are "hot"

 

[BiggE]

I was told that Tortorella would never think of doing anything like this

Dino gonna dino. The entire organization needs to go extinct asap!

 

[BiggE]

The rancid cherry on the shit sundae is when Tort’s throws another hissy fit and gives Nic D and Zacky pp time while sitting TK and Frost.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

right after he had a pretty good game too. He was making some nice plays in that 3rd period..meanwhile guys like newhook/boldy/etc are all getting the opportunity sigh

How has Frost not received opportunity??? Come on now.

 

[Curufinwe]

Torts said JVR had played really well and his injury will hurt the team a lot.

Says Cates may be moving back to LW with Laughton at center. Thinks Cates is lacking confidence.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

JvR was/is their best trade chip post the Sanheim extension. They could another deadline where they don’t make the playoffs & don’t trade any of their bigger trade pieces.

 

[freakydallas13]

Well, Holmgren would be first in line, with that deal with AMac, which was much worse as a % of the cap!

I'm still curious about that move, a week before Fletcher offers a million less and a year less, and is talking about trading Risto at the deadline - was this his idea or did the FO make Risto a priority because he's a "Flyer player?" Was Scott still fixated on competing in 2022-23 and decided Risto was necessary?

Trying to polish the entire Risto situation turd by playing what'about'ism doesn't make the Risto turd any better.

 

[deadhead]

How has Frost not received opportunity??? Come on now.

Frost 14:59
Newhook 13:17

 

[Beef Invictus]

How has Frost not received opportunity??? Come on now.

He was dropped out of the 2C slot (which comes with better linemates and usage) in favor of a winger who isn't a center, and who Frost is better than at center. They're always going out of their way to keep Frost as low as possible.

 

[flyerslducks]

How has Frost not received opportunity??? Come on now.

i think he and cates should switch or put cates on his wing with laughton as the 3c. He needs to play with better offensive players, not the likes of freaking deslaurier who he is lined up with rn. Some opportunity to excel offensively with a player like that. You want those 40 points, give him better linemates

 

[freakydallas13]

Cool, team could have traded any combination of Couts, Risto, JVR, or Sanheim for hauls last season/this season, and now we're going to trade none of them.

I love sports.

 

[Beef Invictus]

i think he and cates should switch or put cates on his wing with laughton as the 3c. He needs to play with better offensive players, not the likes of freaking deslaurier who he is lined up with rn. Some opportunity to excel offensively with a player like that. You want those 40 points, give him better linemates

He doesn't want him to get better points, he wants to scapegoat Frost for the season while pretending he's receiving proper usage when he isn't.

I'm sure appeals to authority to justify it will come shortly.

 

[flyerslducks]

Frost 14:59
Newhook 13:17

and yet newhook is on the 2nd line, playing with nichuskin and eventually landeskog when he gets better.

He doesn't want him to get better points, he wants to scapegoat Frost for the season while pretending he's receiving proper usage when he isn't.

I'm sure appeals to authority to justify it will come shortly.

but I thought the goal was to get frost his 40 points! I'm sure deslaurier, macewan, etc will help give frost goals/bury any chance he will give them lol

 

[Magua]

Still waiting on that Deslauriers scratch! Seeing Frost play with absolute no skill plugs, like MacEwen and Deslauriers, in his "make or break year" is just depressing. It's a no-win. It doesn't benefit him; it doesn't benefit a (rebuilding) team; it only benefits Chuck Fletcher's self-justifying ego.

Says Cates may be moving back to LW with Laughton at center. Thinks Cates is lacking confidence.

Wow, who could've predicted that?! They took a blossoming LW and made him a 2C because he plays the "right way" and turned his game into mush in the process.

 

[deadhead]

and yet newhook is on the 2nd line, playing with nichuskin and eventually landeskog when he gets better.


but I thought the goal was to get frost his 40 points! I'm sure deslaurier, macewan, etc will help give first goals/bury any chance frost will give them lol

Have you looked at the AVs roster? What alternative do they have with Kadri gone? Compher?

 

[Curufinwe]

Have you looked at the AVs roster? What alternative do they have with Kadri gone? Compher?

Do they not have a winger with fewer than 20 games of NHL experience that they can force into the 2C slot?

That's what a smart club would do.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

i think he and cates should switch or put cates on his wing with laughton as the 3c. He needs to play with better offensive players, not the likes of freaking deslaurier who he is lined up with rn. Some opportunity to excel offensively with a player like that. You want those 40 points, give him better linemates

Frost is averaging 15 minutes of ice time per game, is on the 2nd PP, and had the team's leading goal scorer from last season (JVR) on his wing all season until JVR got hurt last game.

As deadhead pointed out, he's averaging almost 2-minutes more TOI per game than Newhook. So spare me.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Still waiting on that Deslauriers scratch! Seeing Frost play with absolute no skill plugs, like MacEwen and Deslauriers, in his "make or break year" is just depressing. It's a no-win. It doesn't benefit him; it doesn't benefit a (rebuilding) team; it only benefits Chuck Fletcher's self-justifying ego.



Wow, who could've predicted that?! They took a blossoming LW and made him a 2C because he plays the "right way" and turned his game into mush in the process.

I'm told this is good development.

 

[FLYguy3911]

#FreeFrost

Frost works best with space. No one will give him more space than Nic.

The Risto trade was horrendous, but somehow extending him, and the missed opportunity of not trading him at the deadline (and possibly bringing him back after July 1st!) was worse.

It will be hard to justify another year of Fletcher. He shouldn't even be holding the title now, but I wonder if expectations for this season were so low and with all of the injuries (we know this team loves a good excuse), I wonder if the team finishing ~10-12 would be seen as progress and justify another year of the Fletcher error, I mean era.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Frost is averaging 15 minutes of ice time per game, is on the 2nd PP, and had the team's leading goal scorer from last season (JVR) on his wing all season until JVR got hurt last game.

As deadhead pointed out, he's averaging almost 2-minutes more TOI per game than Newhook. So spare me.

Remember when we taught you that TOI alone is useless without context? Nearly a quarter of that TOI has been spent with MacEwen. More time than he's spent with Allison or TK or Laughton or Farabee. Almost as much as he has spent with Laczynski.

Maybe spare us your scapegoating.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

I would rather see a Laz/Frost/Allison line.
Nic the suck on the 3rd line is LOL worthy

 

[captainpaxil]

Torts said he's going to play laughton at center as he wants to build Cates confidence at his natural position. Lack of depth says one of them has to play c while I feel they're both better at wing.

Farabee Laughton Cates d-lo shows a huge dropoff at the position. Might be our weakest behind center with only ratcliffe in Lehigh
Tk Tippett Allison macewen with Foerster needing playing time.

 

[Striiker]

Check out MacEwen and Frosts icetime to see how these players are viewed by the team and quality of the "chances" they're being given.

Also, this was boosted after last game where JVR fell due to being injured and Frost played more than usual because Hayes and TK got benched. Before that, he was 9th in 5v5 icetime with 11:18 per game.

 

[DancingPanther]

Still has more letters in his name than goals scored in the NHL

 

[Beef Invictus]

I think it's funny that for ages all we've heard is about how JVR is Hextall's team-sinking anchor, now suddenly he's a positive. Hmmmmmm.