Not always… UFA exists and you can get replacement level vets to fill roles. Can’t normally be key roles like middle 6 centers, 2nd line wings, 4D…. Only a few of those exist in a season… But you can get 5/6D and 4th liners with ease. Helm is an example this year on the Avs.
Rumor: 2022-2022 Trade Rumors and Free Agency Part 14: Sakic goes back to bed
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Freaky Styley
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I think Kubalik should/would be a great guy to target as a Bura replacement. Seems like he could be had dirt cheap, wouldn't cost against the cap too much either, and I could see him have similar production as Bura in this lineup.
Ideally we could dump JTC as well and use his hit for Kubalik, then throw contracts at guys like Trocheck and Rust (without crunching the numbers, not sure if possible)
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Nuke - Trocheck - Rust
Lehkonen - Newhook - Kubalik
Ranta - Maltsev - LOC
Ideally we could dump JTC as well and use his hit for Kubalik, then throw contracts at guys like Trocheck and Rust (without crunching the numbers, not sure if possible)
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Nuke - Trocheck - Rust
Lehkonen - Newhook - Kubalik
Ranta - Maltsev - LOC
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Gruyeriev
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I think they tried the year they drafted Picks and Aitto but yeah their scouting on goalies kind of sucks. Im not sure if Annunen will be any different.
Gruyeriev
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Significant defensively but quite a large dropoff in offensive production.
That said having Landy, Palat, Lehkonen and Nichushkin as top 9 forwards would be an awful tough group to play against defensively..
If we have enough money Copp would be a great 2C and hopefully we can bring back Manson and Kuemper and JJ on a cheap deal.
Palat replaces Burakovsky
Copp replaces Kadri
Resign Nichushkin, Lehkonen, Sturm, NAK, Kuemper, JJ, Cogliano
Palat- Mackinnon- Rantanen
Landeskog- Copp- Nichushkin
Lehkonen- Compher- Newhook
O'Connor- Sturm- Aube Kubel
Cogliano
Toews - Makar
Byram - Manson
JJ - Girard
MacDermid
Kuemper
Francouz
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Is there a large drop off offensively? Palat basically paces for 55pts a season? So at most you're losing 10pts a year?
Jayevs
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This off season could be the defining moment of Sakic’s GM career IMO. Lots of cap space and lots of really intriguing wingers on the market. I think they’ll go for 2 of these type:
Nichushkin
Palat
Niederreiter
Marchment
Mikheyev
Kane
And one of:
Burakovsky
Olofsson
Kubalik
Rakell
Smith
Barbanov
Nichushkin
Palat
Niederreiter
Marchment
Mikheyev
Kane
And one of:
Burakovsky
Olofsson
Kubalik
Rakell
Smith
Barbanov
Richard88
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The glaring issue with handing out term to that many forwards in UFA is the 2023 contract situation. How do you give MacKinnon, Byram, and Newhook raises when you've tied yourself into Rust, Trocheck, and Kubalik?
Richard88
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I like the look of that, but how do you cover raises in 2023?
Compher leaving and Girard being traded (and being replaced by ELC's/$1m players) would only free up $6.5m, the vast majority of which will slide over to MacKinnon. Then you still have bridge deals for Newhook and Byram to account for.
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With at least some wanting to send EJ packing with a pick to get rid of him or the prospect of buying him out, is not there a single team wanting EJ for basically nothing if we retain 2mil?
I mean, that would be kinda the middle ground, where we take a hit next year of 2mil, but have no penalties thereafter (instead of another 2mil following year with buyout).
Of course, I have no idea if there is any interest in him for an AAV of 4mil, but for a veteran presence #4-5 D, you'd think at least someone would bite? Or is my valuation of EJ completely off? I dunno, just thinking out loud if it comes to that.
His M-NTC of course can be a hindrance, but there still are 19 teams he can be traded to.
I mean, that would be kinda the middle ground, where we take a hit next year of 2mil, but have no penalties thereafter (instead of another 2mil following year with buyout).
Of course, I have no idea if there is any interest in him for an AAV of 4mil, but for a veteran presence #4-5 D, you'd think at least someone would bite? Or is my valuation of EJ completely off? I dunno, just thinking out loud if it comes to that.
His M-NTC of course can be a hindrance, but there still are 19 teams he can be traded to.
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I mean Dmen evaluation around the league seems to be all over the place but certainly at a premium. It doesn't even seem too far fetched for a team to see him as still being able to be a top 4 dman and taking on the full hit.
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Bill Peckerskull
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Edmonton took Duncan Keith and his full $5.54M cap hit. Philly just gave Risto $5.1M. Someone dumb is gonna pay Klingberg $5+M. Hawks gave Seth Jones $9.5M. Tyler Meyers is making $6M.
I can almost guarantee that someone will be willing to take EJ at $6M for 1 year.
I can almost guarantee that someone will be willing to take EJ at $6M for 1 year.
Worry about that when it comes. I'd think the cap would increase quite a bit as well so there's that money to factor in as well.
And the way it's going I doubt Byram and Newhook will be getting that expensive of bridge contracts.
shadow1
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Sakic has never been a big spender in free agency. The biggest deal he's ever given out was the one to Iginla (3yr/$16M), but that was almost 10 years ago. The next closest would be Donksoi's 2019 contract (4yr/$15.6M).
With the Avs cap space situation in a bad spot, and key extensions only a year away, I'll be surprised if Sakic is a big player in free agency. I could see him taking one decent sized stab up front, maybe. But there is definitely not enough money to add two "big" players (i.e. Copp/Trochek level); not after re-signing Lehkonen.
I think it's more likely he shops in the UFA bargain bin and then trades Colorado's 2025 2nd round pick for some RFA none of us see coming.
With the Avs cap space situation in a bad spot, and key extensions only a year away, I'll be surprised if Sakic is a big player in free agency. I could see him taking one decent sized stab up front, maybe. But there is definitely not enough money to add two "big" players (i.e. Copp/Trochek level); not after re-signing Lehkonen.
I think it's more likely he shops in the UFA bargain bin and then trades Colorado's 2025 2nd round pick for some RFA none of us see coming.
Sakic has never succeeded in free agency, but we know he has tried to be a big spender. Repeatedly.
shadow1
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Yup, plenty of rebuilding teams are lining up for RHD vets that can play in the top 4 and insulate their youth. EJ is the perfect candidate since he only has 1 year left.
GoNordiquesGo
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I think there are very few people left who think the Avs won't be strong next year as well. The "window is closing now" mantra has pretty much died down.
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I mean I don’t really think anyone has said we’re going to suck next year or the year after. Just that the cap will affect the team and that chances are they won’t be near as dominant as they have been.
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Ehhh, it’s hard to say.
There were some “murmurs” from this board at the beginning of this year that said the Avs may not make the playoffs this year.
I think that now has died down because fans see that the floor of this team is too good to miss playoffs. But I definitely recall those conversations.
Then again, maybe it was just some residual feelings from getting knocked out by Vegas.
That's mostly a good thing. Term is what usually kills these teams in bad cap situations.
Perratrooper
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EJ controls where he lands to an extent, with his modified no trade that allows him to somewhat pick his destination (list of 19 teams he can be traded to).
I would imagine that EJ 50% retained would interest some of the bottom teams for sure and possibly even some cusp contenders.
I would imagine that EJ 50% retained would interest some of the bottom teams for sure and possibly even some cusp contenders.
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