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Rumor: 2022-2022 Trade Rumors and Free Agency Part 14: Sakic goes back to bed

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Balthazar said:
These 3 players should cost around 15M. Kuemper (6M), Nuke (5.2M), Lehks (3.8M).

That leaves 12M to replace Kadri, Bura, Sturm, Helm, Cogliano, Manson, Murray and MacDermid.

Hmm.
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Personally, I’d move EJ, or half his salary to create more room. Most of the players won’t cost much to replace, tbh.

We’ll be looking at a lesser 2C next season though.
 
EJ will be extremely difficult to move for many different reasons. Also buying him out means that you carry his cap hit into Mack's next contract and Sakic wouldn't do that.

The truth is, next year we'll have to have a whole bunch of players making ~1M. Manson is basically gone and Girard will probably be on the block for a 2nd line upgrade (hopefully a center). They'll want Byram to take his spot/role in the lineup.
 
AvsCOL said:
EJ buyout clears $4mil, then Compher clears $3.5mil

So $7.5mil. Not far off.
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Even in a scenario where Sakic would agree to buy out EJ and some other GM would agree to take Compher without sending a contract back, these 2 guys would have to be replaced. So that's no longer 7.5M.

Also there isn't an unlimited supply of guys making 1M that are competent enough to play in the NHL. We can't have 10 of those.
 
Balthazar said:
EJ will be extremely difficult to move for many different reasons. Also buying him out means that you carry his cap hit into Mack's next contract and Sakic wouldn't do that.

The truth is, next year we'll have to have a whole bunch of players making ~1M. Manson is basically gone and Girard will probably be on the block for a 2nd line upgrade (hopefully a center). They'll want Byram to take his spot/role in the lineup.
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If Manson is gone they’re not trading Girard, pretty simple. Not taking a position of strength and turning it into a weakness.

I personally think EJ gets traded along with a pick to a team who needs the leadership. He’s a respected veteran, and has a modified NTC, meaning he can be traded to 19 teams he submits each year. Compher would be easy to move to Arizona too for example, or a team who needs to hit the cap floor. Only has one year left.

Avs have plenty of money to get what they need done. Sakic keeping the 2023 1st suggests to me that he needs it to use for a trade of some sort. Maybe a draft day trade.
 
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PAZ said:
I have to think it's one or the other and he'll take less or more depending on the circumstance. With Kadri gone this summer there's a good chance the #2-4C role will be up for grabs. Plus he's getting tha #3C role on the Avs right now and a team like Seattle doesn't even have room for him with Geekie/Gourde/Wennberg down the middle and Bernier joining the team next season.

I just don't see any team giving him that type of money. He doesn't have the production or the reputation/history in the league to demand that type of money. IMO, his best comparable is someone like Oskar Sundqvist, but he had a 31 pts in 71 game and played very well in their cup run when he signed his deal (4 x 2.75).

Think Sturm should come in at 2-4 yrs x 1.5-2.5 mil.
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Wanting and getting are two different things... that said, he turned down a 4 year 2.75m per deal from Minnesota. He clearly has his eyes on more.
 
I still think Girard is the casualty this summer to help with the cap.

Also I think Sakic had a deal with EJ last summer: waive your NMC and I'll keep you for this season's cup run but I can't promise you anything about your last year of your contract.
 
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This model seems to love the Avs.
 
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niwotsblessing said:
Maltsev can replace Sturm easily. Sturm is a solid defensive player who does not score, we'd get more offense from Maltsev for less money.

Sign Manson and trade Girard for a 2C.
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Sturm has been really good for us but we probably won't be able to afford him.

Next year we'll have at least 3 guys from the Eagles that will become full time NHLers. Maltsev, Sherwood and someone else (hopefully not Megna). Maybe Ranta.
 
niwotsblessing said:
Maltsev can replace Sturm easily. Sturm is a solid defensive player who does not score, we'd get more offense from Maltsev for less money.

Sign Manson and trade Girard for a 2C.
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Would we get more offense from Maltsev? He hasn't really shown much of anything offensively.
 
Balthazar said:
Even in a scenario where Sakic would agree to buy out EJ and some other GM would agree to take Compher without sending a contract back, these 2 guys would have to be replaced. So that's no longer 7.5M.

Also there isn't an unlimited supply of guys making 1M that are competent enough to play in the NHL. We can't have 10 of those.
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This is really the last year before we have to retool. Wish it didn't take all of our D prospects to put the roster together.
 
My moves would be conservative:
Sign Nichushkin (6 million)
Sign Kuemper (6-7 million)
Sign Lehkonen (4 million long termish).
Don't trade Girard.
Sign Manson only if its 4 million or under.
Sign Sturm for 3 million.
Sign Cogliano.
Sign MacDermid.

That's it.

Landeskog-Mackinnon-Rantanen
Nichushkin-Newhook-Lehkonen
NAK-Sturm-Compher
Cogliano-Maltsev-Sherwood
MacDermid

Toews-Makar
Girard-Manson
Byram-EJ

Kuemper
Francouz

This isn't a retool, still a contender.
 
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niwotsblessing said:
From what I hear he's been putting up numbers for the Eagles. At this point MacDermid has outscored Sturm since the TDL. I am optimistic Maltsev can rack up a few points on the Avs, which would put his ahead of Sturm.
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I mean Maltsev had 0 points in his 18 games this year.
 
Avsboy said:
My moves would be conservative:
Sign Nichushkin (6 million)
Sign Kuemper (6-7 million)
Sign Lehkonen (4 million long termish).
Don't trade Girard.
Sign Manson only if its 4 million or under.
Sign Sturm for 3 million.
Sign Cogliano.
Sign MacDermid.

That's it.

Landeskog-Mackinnon-Rantanen
Nichushkin-Newhook-Lehkonen
NAK-Sturm-Compher
Cogliano-Maltsev-Sherwood
MacDermid

Toews-Makar
Girard-Manson
Byram-EJ

Kuemper
Francouz

This isn't a retool, still a contender.
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The bottom 9 won't have enough offense. I'd try jettisoning Compher to create some capspace for a 2nd line winger, and give a rookie a chance at taking the 3RW spot.

Also, replace Sherwood with LOC...

Landeskog - MacKinnon - Rantanen
Nichuskin --- Newhook --- 2RW
Lehkonen - Sturm - Olausson/Ranta/Foudy/etc
Cogliano - Maltsev - O'Connor/NAK
 
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niwotsblessing said:
He needed more time in the AHL. Better line mates wouldn't hurt.
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Plenty of guys score well in the AHL. I mean Sherwood has 63 in 50 this year in the A but would never crack an NHL teams top 9. Now Maltsev has a bit more potential than him, but I haven't seen much in terms of untapped offensive potential in Maltsev. I do think as a checking forward though he has some potential though.
 
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The Abusement Park said:
Plenty of guys score well in the AHL. I mean Sherwood has 63 in 50 this year in the A but would never crack an NHL teams top 9. Now Maltsev has a bit more potential than him, but I haven't seen much in terms of untapped offensive potential in Maltsev. I do think as a checking forward though he has some potential though.
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That is what I see as well.
 
Avsboy said:
My moves would be conservative:
Sign Nichushkin (6 million)
Sign Kuemper (6-7 million)
Sign Lehkonen (4 million long termish).
Don't trade Girard.
Sign Manson only if its 4 million or under.
Sign Sturm for 3 million.
Sign Cogliano.
Sign MacDermid.

That's it.

Landeskog-Mackinnon-Rantanen
Nichushkin-Newhook-Lehkonen
NAK-Sturm-Compher
Cogliano-Maltsev-Sherwood
MacDermid

Toews-Makar
Girard-Manson
Byram-EJ

Kuemper
Francouz

This isn't a retool, still a contender.
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That bottom 6 is still ugly.
Do what you can to move out EJ & Compher. I think we will see guys like Maltsev, Ranta, Kaut (if he's still around) and OO get a shot at replacing guys like Sturm (if too expensive), Compher, Burakovsky, Helm and Cogliano, as well as minor signings for depth. If/when some of these guys aren't cutting it at that level, they will be replaced at the deadline for more established players. So realistically, I see the forwards looking something like this to start:

9296
Nuke - 2C via trade (Miller?) - Olausson
Lehkonen - Newhook - XX (compher replacement)
Ranta - Maltsev/Sturm - LOC

I think if we insulate OO he could hold his own as a trigger man in the top 6. We will see though.
 
henchman24 said:
Wanting and getting are two different things... that said, he turned down a 4 year 2.75m per deal from Minnesota. He clearly has his eyes on more.
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I think part of the issue was that he never got the opportunity to move up the lineup.

He watched guys like Gaudreau and Rask get gifted top 6 minutes while he was stapled to the 4th line.
 
PAZ said:
I think part of the issue was that he never got the opportunity to move up the lineup.

He watched guys like Gaudreau and Rask get gifted top 6 minutes while he was stapled to the 4th line.
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His frustration on the Mild in understandable. Yet Sturm has been our 3C since arriving, the Avs are giving him the opportunity he was wanting in St. Paul. What has he accomplished?
 
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