Rumor: 2022-2022 Trade Rumors and Free Agency Part 14: Sakic goes back to bed

[Balthazar]

Wouldn't Fletcher talk to Giroux 1st before reaching out to teams since Giroux has full NTC? Why would he listen to offers from other teams like Avs, if from the sounds of it Giroux would only waive for Florida? It just doesn't add up

Giroux said numerous times in the previous weeks that he wasn't thinking about that right now. It adds up perfectly.

 

[Foppa2118]

Wouldn't Fletcher talk to Giroux 1st before reaching out to teams since Giroux has full NTC? Why would he listen to offers from other teams like Avs, if from the sounds of it Giroux would only waive for Florida? It just doesn't add up

If Fletcher did talk to other teams early on, despite knowing Giroux only wanted to go to the Panthers, it would just be doing your due diligence, so you don't put all your eggs in Florida's basket.

They could always change their mind or suffer an injury or two that forced them to send their assets elsewhere.

 

[Balthazar]

There was also many rumors about Ranta or Barron and Jost being in a possible deal for Giroux weeks ago reported by NRD, Elliotte, and Pagnotta. I'm not buying that only Florida was in it and no one else talked to or negotiated with Fletcher.

IMO, it was the Avs for weeks. Giroux wanted to play 1000 games, so they waited. Then Florida entered the picture and Giroux decided he'd rather go there and only there. Avs upped their offer, Giroux and Fletcher waffled, Florida finally upped their offer, and that was it.

Pretty sure Sakic wasn't on it anymore when he traded Helleson.

 

[Foppberg]

Very possible timeline. It did feel to me at the time like the timing of moving Helleson might have meant Joe knew he wasn't getting Giroux, so he just moved early on a defenseman.

Ding ding ding...

Also I can't like posts for awhile, so when you see me dinging you just take that as a "like".

 

[redacted]

None of us know anything except the Avs didn’t land Giroux.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

There was also many rumors about Ranta or Barron and Jost being in a possible deal for Giroux weeks ago reported by NRD, Elliotte, and Pagnotta. I'm not buying that only Florida was in it and no one else talked to or negotiated with Fletcher.

IMO, it was the Avs for weeks. Giroux wanted to play 1000 games, so they waited. Then Florida entered the picture and Giroux decided he'd rather go there and only there. Avs upped their offer, Giroux and Fletcher waffled, Florida finally upped their offer, and that was it.

But he's gone to Florida, so the specifics of how don't really matter now. Time to move on. We can revisit it when they meet in The Final and all us butthurt Avs fans boo his ass.

 

[Reparlana]

Sneak in and grab p Kane or cat! Or sure up the 3rd line. Absolutely hilarious we weren't even in on Giroux.

 

[Balthazar]

Ding ding ding...

Also I can't like posts for awhile, so when you see me dinging you just take that as a "like".

Which board did you troll to get your like privilege revoked?

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

Pretty sure Sakic wasn't on it anymore when he traded Helleson.

I won't disagree with you there. Traded Jost just a couple days later too.

 

[Bender]

Here's the timeline as far as I can tell

- Fletcher is shopping Giroux, talked to Sakic
- Sakic made an offer, Flyers want Helleson (Friedman knew that)
- Giroux tells Fletcher that he's only going to Florida (Friedman knows he wants FLA but doesn't know it's ONLY FLA)
- Fletcher tells Sakic, who then trades Helleson to Anaheim
- Giroux is traded to Florida and everyone learns that he only wanted to go there

There was also many rumors about Ranta or Barron and Jost being in a possible deal for Giroux weeks ago reported by NRD, Elliotte, and Pagnotta. I'm not buying that only Florida was in it and no one else talked to or negotiated with Fletcher.

IMO, it was the Avs for weeks. Giroux wanted to play 1000 games, so they waited. Then Florida entered the picture and Giroux decided he'd rather go there and only there. Avs upped their offer, Giroux and Fletcher waffled, Florida finally upped their offer, and that was it.

Yeah I think something similar to what's being suggested in these scenarios is probably close to what really happened. I also believe that what's being spun right now by members of the media in Philly is damage control because it was a pretty bad return.

 

[Foppa2118]

I don't think Florida only entered the picture after Giroux's 1000th game. I'm sure they were in it the whole time.

And if there's anything to be skeptical about it's that Giroux hadn't already thought about and decided which team he wanted to go to until just recently. He probably thought about it after every loss he had this season.

The equivalent of being stuck at a shitty day job and dreaming of the beach.

 

[Foppberg]

Which board did you troll to get your like privilege revoked?

I can't remember... The main boards I think. I wasn't even trying to troll or anything I was just being cheeky like always but I forgot I wasn't in Avs Land and they don't understand me in other lands and I got in trouble. I'm not leaving home again.

 

[Balthazar]

I can't remember... The main boards I think. I wasn't even trying to troll or anything I was just being cheeky like always but I forgot I wasn't in Avs Land and they don't understand me in other lands and I got in trouble. I'm not leaving home again.

Yea I stopped getting warnings and stuff when I stopped going to the main board. Too easy to get in trouble over there.

 

[Bender]

Alright, I'm calling it right now :

To Colorado:
A. Copp, C

To Winnipeg:
J.T. Compher, RW
2nd Round Pick, 2024
Kaut, RW

...and there will be much rejoicing!

 

[shadow1]

Just watched Spiderman. Expected the board to be like this:

Found it like this:

 

[Alienblood]

Here's what I think happened with Giroux.

If what Seravalli is saying is true that the Flyers never even talked to another team, then all those rumors about other teams, especially the Avs late "still being in it" were intentional leaks from the Flyers to drive up Florida's offer.

The Flyers sent Briere to Colorado as subterfuge. The Avs were looking at Braun when they were in Philly, before they traded for Manson.

After his 1000th game we heard this could take through the weekend. Then Ekblad went down with an injury, and Fletcher said, if you really want to go to Florida we have to make this deal now, because we might not be able to get any more assets for you if they trade for a defenseman. So they did and didn't quite get the haul they hoped.

Basically all the insiders and Dater, unless he was just piggybacking off other rumors, got played by Fletcher so that Florida didn't realize they were the only one negotiating for Giroux, and just offered a 2nd round pick or something.

Better off

 

[Balthazar]

No need for a trade, we have an internal solution

 

[Alienblood]

Better off

Braun sucks ..he couldn't make it here.

Who would need any time to look at him

 

[shadow1]

No need for a trade, we have an internal solution

He's just getting worse and worse.

Why did Colorado trade for Josh Manson? They've got a perfectly good Keaton Middleton just sitting there!

 

[Richard88]

Alright, I'm calling it right now :

To Colorado:
A. Copp, C

To Winnipeg:
J.T. Compher, RW
2nd Round Pick, 2024
Kaut, RW

...and there will be much rejoicing!

I'll play.

To Colorado: Andrew Copp (50%) + WPG 2023 4th

To Winnipeg: COL 2023 1st + Shane Bowers

 

[Hasbro]

Just watched Spiderman. Expected the board to be like this:

Found it like this:

Remember when everyone was terrified about the prospect of Taylor Hall going to the Blues?

 

[Tommy Shelby]

Of course we were never in on Giroux, the insiders almost never know who the Avs want. They just use them as shit to throw at the wall because it frustrates them that Avs don't give them a single nugget of information about anything.

 

[Alienblood]

No need for a trade, we have an internal solution

We have to change fandom anyone that stupid ..we should bolt..i'm beginning to wonder about Joe if he is even entertaining these prices.

 

[Freudian]

I like Hampus Lindholm but I think he's a bit overrated on HF, just like OEL was a while ago. The contract is fair but it the last three years it might not be all that pretty, but that's a problem for a different GM most likely.

 

[shadow1]

I'm dying on my Copp + Stastny hill.

• Copp (50%) + Stastny (50%) <> COL 2023 1st, Aube-Kubel*, Bowers, Kaut
  • *Hopefully Compher but trying to be realistic

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