Draft 2021 NHL Draft and Undrafted Free Agent Thread

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This is the perfect year to draft anywhere in the 10-25.....this draft is the biggest crapshoot since half the kids barely played or were scouted. Some teams in that 10-20 are going to land some real gems, and some teams in the 4-10 are going to land some real duds.
 
If we end up in the 8-12 range, would anybody take a risk on Raty?

i know he has not had a great year, but he was supposed to be the top pick prior to the year.
Could he be the “steal” of the first round?
 
If we end up in the 8-12 range, would anybody take a risk on Raty?

i know he has not had a great year, but he was supposed to be the top pick prior to the year.
Could he be the “steal” of the first round?

Yes, I'd pick him in the 8-12 range. I wouldn't be too excited if we get him ahead of those spots, because I feel there are better, safer, options available in the top-6
 
Was able to watch some more of these prospects in-depth yesterday. Here's what I got...

Dylan Guenther

The first thing that jumps out, obviously, is his quick and strong release. His one-timer rips and is quite accurate. A shoot-first mentality, but has a good eye for the open man. Can't deke to the best of them, but can get around players. Not really too creative one-on-one, but will play situationally. He'll dump and chase if he needs to or use his strong lower body to power his way through the offensive zone. That's another thing that I like, his skating power and edgework. Strong starts and stops don't get off step often, unless after a long shift. He's quite a big and fast skater... almost Gauthier-like. He'll battle along with the boards and lay hits. Pretty aware of his surroundings of the open man/space, both offensively and defensively, to break up lanes or send passes out on the breakout. I think one thing I want him to work on is being a little more committed to the defensive game, but he isn't a liability. Sometimes will lag on the backcheck, but he has a good forecheck. He also has an active stick to plug passing lanes. All-in-all he looks like he could be a solid top-line/top-6 wing option and could be a contributor soon on an NHL PP. I like what he brings to the table. Easily a top-5 talent could go No. 1.

Stanislav Svozil

A two-way defender, but I think he ultimately ends up a mobile defensive defender in the pros. The reason being is his stone hands. Don't necessarily like the way he handles his shots or quick passes, although if given time, could develop that. He has an underrated two-line pass to try for a breakaway. He does play on Kometo's PP, though, so he has some coach's trust. Defensively, I like his game. Gets his sticks in lanes, fights in front (albeit I want him to get physically stronger), and has good awareness of his assignments. He'll also jump in on rushes from time to time and also jump up and disrupt zone entries. Outside of his offensive struggles, I think he also thinks faster than his body does. I want him to work on his edges, strong starts and stops, and overall skating ability, too. ATM, I think he needs a lot of time to hone out his game. Would definitely need an adjustment period in NA hockey. Think he'll be a project that could become a top-4 two-way, but at this moment more like a defensive defender. Mid 2nd round talent, IMO. Might not take him in the 1st round.

Cole Sillinger

Center with offensive flair and finesse, but not all devoted to the other elements of the game. I'll start with the good. He's a deke machine and a shoot-first type. Has good vision, finding lanes to seem passes to open teammates. Breakout passes are good, too. The coaching staff also uses him in all situations including PP and PK. The things I don't like... "junior" style of play. He doesn't use his body or fight for pucks, instead, he allows his teammates to dig in the corners while he waits off to the side. Even then he is limiting his drive of play when the opposition has the puck with lazy forechecking and backchecking. He will, though, use his vision to see if he could jump up and break up a breakout in the neutral zone. Gets knocked down a lot when pressured, but hopefully will gain more strength and grow into his body. He's going to need to commit to the game around him if he's playing in pro hockey, especially in the NHL. If he can develop that, you have yourself a top-6 creative all-star on the wing. If not, he busts.

Olen Zellweger

Small, but bulky, offensive defender with very good footwork and speed. Has QB PP skills and has shown that in his small sample size for this year. Has a good shot that is peppered low with high-quality rebound capability for deflections and clean-up crews. Has a knack for over-committing on pinches, though, and going up for an odd-man rush. A little more defensive coaching could help alleviate that. Very good skater, too and can jump up and come back at ease. Physically aware and will board battle to the best of his ability. Early 2nd round talent, IMO, but he could be a defender who rises into the 1st round.

Sasha Pastujov

Not a huge fan, TBH. He has good forechecking abilities and plays deep in the corners to pry a puck out. There are some things I think that could develop a little later like skating, getting stronger, etc., but ATM he gets knocked down quite easily and doesn't provide much skating effort to pressure opponents. His offensive ability outside the PP seems to lack as well. Just ultimately doesn't bring much to the table. He will go down to block shots, however, he'll lose his assignments in the defensive zone. He is not good with the puck on his stick in a quick transition. He'll throw blind passes and send the puck up the boards without looking and evaluating his situation, thinking on a dime and make a play. You have to have good puck possession in order to play in the pros. His shot is okay, nothing crazy. Passing ability needs to get better. I wouldn't touch him in the 1st round, ATM. Mid-late 2nd round talent, but I think he needs to work on his hockey IQ significantly.

Fedor Svechkov

Big and fast kid who has a quick and powerful pass/release. Has the drive to hound opposing players with the puck on their sticks and try to cause a turnover. Knows how to possess the puck and has underrated stick handling skills. Plays in all situations for Ladia Togliatti and has since been promoted to the VHL. One knock I do have on him, though, is that he gets caught on the backcheck a bit. As a center, there needs to be a bigger desire to get back into your defensive zone. He does forecheck quite well, though, and keeps an active stick to plug lanes, disrupts plays, and create a breakout or zone entry. I love that he has the smarts to slow plays down when needed. There was an offensive chance in the video where two of his teammates kept throwing shots on the net with no thought or look to the open man. Those shots kept getting blocked from the defensive breakdown, but when the puck came to his stick he brought it to the wall (bringing the defensive player with him) and created space for his teammates to open up to. Once that happened, he threw a quick, crisp pass to the defender who swung it to the open man and got a dangerous shot attempt on net. Solid work of play there, IMO. He's big riser for me. Might actually be a top 10 talent in this class.





My other blurbs on some other 2021 prospects is on page 20 of this thread if anyone else was curious...
 
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so who and what players fit the Rangers need and that are undrafted or drafted FA this spring/summer?? I am a little shocked the Rangers haven't signed any yet.

Apparently, the Rangers offered Mike Hardman a contract, but he (and his agent) chose the Blackhawks instead...
 
This is the perfect year to draft anywhere in the 10-25.....this draft is the biggest crapshoot since half the kids barely played or were scouted. Some teams in that 10-20 are going to land some real gems, and some teams in the 4-10 are going to land some real duds.

I forgot who I was talking to regarding this, but it does make sense to have multiple picks in a draft like this in the mid-late rounds. There could be a lot of under-scouted players that fall in this class.

With this said, this whole draft is a big gamble...
 
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If we end up in the 8-12 range, would anybody take a risk on Raty?

i know he has not had a great year, but he was supposed to be the top pick prior to the year.
Could he be the “steal” of the first round?

Yes, only one of few who I feel could actually be a center in the NHL...
 
If we end up in the 8-12 range, would anybody take a risk on Raty?

i know he has not had a great year, but he was supposed to be the top pick prior to the year.
Could he be the “steal” of the first round?

Yeah, I'd say the last picks of the top 10 is where he starts entering into the conversation.

For me, Raty is all about expectations. I've never been someone who felt comfortable viewing as the top pick, and even questioned whether he was a top 5 pick. I just don't think the offensive creativity and instincts are there at the next level.

Having said that, I do think he's one of those guys who could find a valuable niche as a middle six center, preferably getting the bulk of his time on the third, but possessing the ability to jump up a line and play with more offensively inclined/skilled players.

If he exceeds that expectation, great. But I'd be comfortable with getting that type of return on him.
 
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This is the perfect year to draft anywhere in the 10-25.....this draft is the biggest crapshoot since half the kids barely played or were scouted. Some teams in that 10-20 are going to land some real gems, and some teams in the 4-10 are going to land some real duds.

I think we could see a run on European talent early, and then a shift to the CHL kids in the second and third rounds.

But right now I think you're going to start seeing a lot more European names popping up in articles and rankings and interview. Guys like Svechkov or Chibrikov are potentially names that will start popping up more and more in the coming months.
 
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could it be possible the Rangers don't sign many undrafted free agents due to their depth or is their a player thst the Rangers should not pass up on??
 
could it be possible the Rangers don't sign many undrafted free agents due to their depth or is their a player thst the Rangers should not pass up on??
I offered up a few guys that I thought the Rangers should look at on a separate thread, but I don't think there's anyone in this UDFA class of NCAA players that's really worth getting too excited over.
 
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@Edge thanks for the reply.

have u heard any grumblings or concerns about wvwn having a draft after the season?

Right now everyone is kind of guessing on a lot of the North American kids. But there's a solid level of comfort with the European kids.

Long-term you could see the AHL get a whole lot younger (kind of like we saw this year) as teams try to get a better read, and more development time with the 2018-2020 kids.

On an somewhat related noted, a few people from the Rangers were in Charlottetown of the QMJHL last weekend doing some scouting.
 
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Right now everyone is kind of guessing on a lot of the North American kids. But there's a solid level of comfort with the European kids.

Long-term you could see the AHL get a whole lot younger (kind of like we saw this year) as teams try to get a better read, and more development time with the 2018-2020 kids.

On an somewhat related noted, a few people from the Rangers were in Charlottetown of the QMJHL last weekend doing some scouting.
Zach L’Heureux?
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Right now everyone is kind of guessing on a lot of the North American kids. But there's a solid level of comfort with the European kids.

Long-term you could see the AHL get a whole lot younger (kind of like we saw this year) as teams try to get a better read, and more development time with the 2018-2020 kids.

On an somewhat related noted, a few people from the Rangers were in Charlottetown of the QMJHL last weekend doing some scouting.

thanks again for reply.

what about when the draft will actually be? Has there been more talks about that?

I know it was floated to have just round 1 after this season and then complete the draft after next year so teams can sCout properly.
 
thanks again for reply.

what about when the draft will actually be? Has there been more talks about that?

I know it was floated to have just round 1 after this season and then complete the draft after next year so teams can sCout properly.


Last I heard, still scheduled for late July.
 
Players worth watching at a Charlottetown vs Halifax game:

2021

Zachary L’Heureux (1st round)
Cameron Whynot (2nd-3rd)
Oscar Plandowski (mid round)
William Trudeau (mid round)
Robert Orr (late round)


2022

Markus Vidicek (1st round center potential)
Jordan Dumais (1st-2nd)
 
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