GDT: 2020 NHL Entry Draft

[GoAwayPanarin]

Turns out NJ didn't have Schneider high on their board

We had Mukh as our next best available dman and looked to trading down, but couldn't. Wasn't necessarily cause Mukh didn't deserve 20th, but just to acquire extra assets. He's setting a few KHL records at 18 so he is impressive, even if he didn't get ranked high past the ISS (they had him 22)

I personally wasn't a fan of Schneider but the Rangers clearly like him, and enough to trade up too! I dont doubt they thought NJ liked him as well as we have a history of drafting bigger, physical dmen in the last 3-4 years.

Because Fitzgerald said so? He isn't going to alienate and de-value the guy who he just took.

Though if thats true, that should scare the shit out of you.

The guy you took is not a good player.

 

[Matt Rentfree]

he plays as if hes asleep.

He seems like a player with million dollar tools and a ten cent brain.

 

[Hischier and Hughes]

Because Fitzgerald said so? He isn't going to alienate and de-value the guy who he just took.

Though if thats true, that should scare the shit out of you.

The guy you took is not a good player.

It probably makes sense because we'd have taken Schneider at 18 since Guhle was already gone and he was the last of that 2nd tier, Mercer may have been BPA but I doubt he was much higher than the other forwards left on our board to pass on the last universally ranked tier 2 dman

And it doesn't scare me one bit! You have to have faith in your scouting team, the Russian went from a 7th dman to top-4 at 17 turning 18 in the 2nd best league in the world! Im not paid to scout these guys and apparently they caught our scouts' eyes while watching Rodion Amirov. Besides, Russian dmen are usually ranked lower than they ever place a decade later in re-drafts because the KHL keeps them down much longer than most leagues.

I hope both Schneider and Shakir make their teams in three years so they can duel it out!

 

[bernmeister]

Holy crap Ottawa arguably having the best draft

possibly but starting out w/3+5OAs... for starters.
That came with a price.

If I were to make an assumption, Nils would be would be a definitive ask from the BUF delegation. Although you wonder if this draft changes things. The BUF delegation was surprised at some point.

Nils L is off limits.
We'll move Deangelo to the highest bidder if not now, next season.

None of the above will be anywhere close to being ready for 3 years. We may need strome for another year.

No, do not need Strome.
Don't be greedy.
If we can't get top dollar picks this yr, take some for next yr.

Would OTT trade #33 for Strome or was it late 2nd rounders?

No.
Again, let's not get greedy.
I could see late 2nd rounders w/Strome but we'd have to add 2nd + OTT 2021 4th.

I pray to the hockey gods tonight

And Moses went out into the desert ascending the holy mountain to pray. And he heard The Lord say, get thee down for thy people have corrupted themselves.

Did we not only wks ago experience a beating off all odds to get 1OA = LaF?

Even more incredulously, were we not delivered from the bondage of Staal's last yr at 5.7 for a future 2nd?

And yet you consider to go where you say....


ye of little faith.

I'd move Strome.
Keep ADA unless you're getting a Krebs+Tuch type package.
I'm surprised the Buch rumors have died down. Maybe he could build even more trade value this season

Move Strome, don't be picky.
ADA hold out for good offer, but don't get greedy, move without delay in hopes of a slightly better offer if you already have a good one. Let's not repeat the Talbot debacle.
Buch should go now for best return, given all we have.

Schneider has an uphill climb to become an impact player for this organization. By the time he's ready in two years, he'll have to fight with Trouba, Fox, Lundkvist, maybe DeAngelo, and a sleeper in Skinner for that right side. The left side is loaded beyond belief -- Lindgren, Miller, Jones, Robertson, Hajek, Reunanen etc etc.

It's also been reported that NJD were not taking Schneider anyway but who knows.

Rangers have had terrible luck drafting out of the WHL the last 20+ year, if not longer. Dubinsky is the only one that really hit and that was 16 years ago.

Schneider told the Post he loves to shoot the puck but he was 40th in shots among defenseman while acting as a No. 1 on a one-line team. Only 17 assists in 60 games away from the PP and most were simple d-to-d passes or handoffs. Any reports that there are underlying puck skills should be read with caution. He plays a very simple game on the puck. He skates the puck up to center but usually dumps it in. Rangers fell in love with the skating, hitting and personality. Whatever. They got Lafreniere and that's all that matters.

Trouba can be moved in coupla yrs.
Hopeful we can do a deal w/DET sooner.

 

[Edge]

We had Mukh as our next best available dman and looked to trading down, but couldn't.

Regardless of whether this is accurate or not, it highlights an interesting point about why teams sometimes trade up - so they don’t get leapfrogged by a team that reaches out to NJ or Columbus.

 

[AlternateSideParking]

I think the dust's settled and I've accepted their decision. This pick creates crazy competition that will push the young kids hardcore. My issue with Schneider is more to do with the overhype by Canadian markets (understandably so) and how they tried to push him into the Sanderson-Drysdale group. Hockey Canada was not happy that the 2019 draft saw the NTDP (17) with nearly have as many players drafted than the entire OHL (25), and that when combined with the USHL (27) nearly doubled it.

Anyway, Schneider can be a difference maker if all things work out.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Only thing I don't like about the Schneider pick is the number of times I am likely to refer to him as "Mathieu" Schneider in my elder moments. Lindgren was a steadying influence on Fox. McDonagh thrived when paired with Sauer. The team has a ton of puck movers on the back end. A guy like Schneider gives them the freedom to take an extra chance or two.

Team is about to lose ADA. We'll be down to one puck mover, and praying that Nils can be that guy in 2021-22.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Because Fitzgerald said so? He isn't going to alienate and de-value the guy who he just took.

Though if thats true, that should scare the shit out of you.

The guy you took is not a good player.

Obvious bust

Mercer probably gonna be McLeod 2.0

devils are a terrible drafting team as always

 

[Alluckks]

The Devils had the pick before No. 19. They had No. 18 and No. 20...

I am aware, my point was that they were still OTC in the video for pick 18. And if we were presumably trading up to take Schneider, how would we know that the Devils weren't picking Schneider at 18 right then and there...........

In the background of the video you can clearly see the Devils still on the clock at pick 18 with over a minute left and no pick in. So either the Devils could have still taken Schneider right there as we agreed to the trade (in which case we'd have to have multiple players we wanted to move up for) or the feed shown on the broadcast that is in the background is not representative of the information given to clubs in advance and the Rangers/teams already knew who the Devils were picking despite it not being broadcast yet

 

[Alluckks]

Also, for those saying that it was reported that the Devils weren't taking Schneider, please cite. Because I have seen reports from sources that said that the Devils were (and at least one of those tweets from a source was posted here...)

 

[FireGerardGallant]

If we trade for a second another guy Id really like outside the ones already mentioned (Gunler, Mysak, Marat) is Tristen Robins

 

[FireGerardGallant]

Double post

 

[wafflepadsave]

Anybody interested in Daniel Tolgeson spp. if they trade back into the 2-3 round?

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

This is fun:

 

[Avery16]

Turns out NJ didn't have Schneider high on their board

We had Mukh as our next best available dman and looked to trading down, but couldn't. Wasn't necessarily cause Mukh didn't deserve 20th, but just to acquire extra assets. He's setting a few KHL records at 18 so he is impressive, even if he didn't get ranked high past the ISS (they had him 22)

I personally wasn't a fan of Schneider but the Rangers clearly like him, and enough to trade up too! I dont doubt they thought NJ liked him as well as we have a history of drafting bigger, physical dmen in the last 3-4 years.

Source?

 

[Kocur Dill]

Nashville stock piled defenceman year after year and it was a healthy formula for them for a looooong time. Plus, part of competing in the future is having quality players to plug in as other players price themselves out over the next decade.

One thing is for certain, Schneiders skillset isn't redundant.

 

[ManUtdTobbe]

Also knew and so did @Amazing Kreiderman and a few others. I remember @ManUtdTobbe also really liking him.

Uh yeah, I had Nils Lundkvist ranked #18 that year so I hope I knew who he was

 

[egelband]

Wait'll you hear Ken Daneyko try to say "Shakir Mukhamadullin"

He’ll “shakin’ muh rummmmmdrink”

 

[ManUtdTobbe]

Anybody interested in Daniel Tolgeson spp. if they trade back into the 2-3 round?

I'm a big fan of Daniel Torgersson, such a well rounded player. Wrote about him before the draft, it's in Swedish though but should be readable with the translation add on.

NHL DRAFT 2020 – Daniel Torgersson: "Han fuskar inte"

 

[Cmox]

Big 7th round tomorrow. Excited to see what Gorton does there.

Yeah at that point it’s balls out. Go for the high risk, high reward pick. And you still have leftover picks. I wonder if they’ll trade a pick?

 

[EdJovanovski]

Uh yeah, I had Nils Lundkvist ranked #18 that year so I hope I knew who he was

I posted predicting we would take Kravtsov, Miller & Lundkvist

 

[RonGreschner]

Wonder if JD and Gorton will try to move back into the 2nd Round. They have a plethora of D as prospects, Hajek, Rykov, Reunanen, Kjellberg , Sjalin, Ragnarsson , Skinner Robertson Jones, Miller and Lundkvist. I don't see them dealing Robertson, Jones, Miller Lundkvist or Skinner, but everyone else is free game.

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

Wonder if JD and Gorton will try to move back into the 2nd Round. They have a plethora of D as prospects, Hajek, Rykov, Reunanen, Kjellberg , Sjalin, Ragnarsson , Skinner Robertson Jones, Miller and Lundkvist. I don't see them dealing Robertson, Jones, Miller Lundkvist or Skinner, but everyone else is free game.

I would expect some kind of deal to get into the 2nd. Theres a lot of good players still on the board and with the uncertaintly of next years draft, I'm sure they'd like to add another higher end piece this year. If they do I'm hoping they take a center!

 

[RagFinMet]

I like Schneider just not for us
We lose a third rounder in a deep draft to select someone for a position i see no openings for for at least 5 years meanwhile there were plenty of Cs there for the pickens at 22
If we stay at 22 and take Schneider then i could live with it
My preference was trading back not up and grabbing marat + having a 2nd and keeping our 3rd rounder
And we could have targeted Faber who i like almost as much as Schneider plus we could get Hirvonen or another C
My biggest fear is they want schneider to free up trading both tda and lundvist
I dont see schneider nearly as good as Lundvist
In fact schneider on this team is our future 3rd pair RD
U dont select a 3rd pair RD in the 1st round especially when we are so thin at the most important position..CENTER
With all this said i welcome him to the rangers

 

[Heckler81]

I hope we can trade Strome for a second. Make a trade so we can draft Khusnutdinov.

That would be AMAZING!!!!!!!