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Prospect Info: 2020 NHL Draft 1st Overall Pick, Alexis Lafreniere, LW

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Chytilmania said:
Yes lean muscle and strength is the goal and my post was too black and white when it's really in the middle. When I say getting bigger and stronger I'm not saying adding 15 lbs by any means necessary. I'm talking about adding muscle and dropping body fat. For some it could be as simple as a 2-5 lb difference on the scale. Laf is already big he doesn't need to get much bigger weight wise but you can always get stronger.

Yes it's recreational and I'm not comparing myself to professional athletes, but I'm in my early 30s and 20 lbs heavier (185 to 205) but way faster and more athletic than when I was weaker and had more body fat in my 20s. A kid I train has put on 80 lbs over 2+ years of training with me and feels much better on the ice. Every kid I train (14-20) that gains size and gets stronger raves about how they feel speed and agility wise no matter the sport. Too many older guys out there that know nothing about strength training that spread misconceptions.
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Yeah but even with that said, that still doesn’t explain someone like Kessel.
 
Amazing Kreiderman said:
Didn't Kessel have chemo which changed his metabolism? I can't remember the exact details but it was something medical.
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Yeah, for the testicular cancer. I’m not sure if it changes your metabolism in everyone, but even with that said, I’m just talking about the fact that Kessel is ragged on by many for not being in shape (everyone knows about the hotdog jokes) and he’s still one of the better skaters in the league.
 
One Winged Angel said:
Yeah but even with that said, that still doesn’t explain someone like Kessel.
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Some people can get away with doing nothing. Even Bartolo Colon was crushing dingers as a big boy. Kessel is a very talented player but I wouldn't consider him one of the fastest or most physical.
 
One Winged Angel said:
Yeah but even with that said, that still doesn’t explain someone like Kessel.
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Kessel is one of those guys who people almost forget how supremely talented he actually is.

They remember his personality, they remember memes about his physical conditioning, but he really is an elite level offensive talent.

At one time, he was seen as a potential top pick in his draft class. Questions about his commitment to the game is partially what dropped him.

Even now, you regularly hear scouts and people around the league question just how good Kessel could be if he actually dedicated himself completely to being his best.

Because for as good as he is, there’s the perception he could be even better if his work ethic matched his natural ability.
 
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Edge said:
There is a line at the end that really caught my attention.

I had a friend who works for a team other than the Rangers tell me that Lafreniere reminds him a bit of Huberdeau, but with all the offensive attributes cranked a level.
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lazy journalism comparing a french canadian star wing prospect to a french canadian star winger :sarcasm:
 
Edge said:
There is a line at the end that really caught my attention.

I had a friend who works for a team other than the Rangers tell me that Lafreniere reminds him a bit of Huberdeau, but with all the offensive attributes cranked a level.
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A more physical and skilled version of Huberdeau is definitely a super homerun pick.
 
EdJovanovski said:
Because it's boring that both of our highest picks in franchise history are compared to the exact same guy, which imo neither of them is remotely similar to Huberdeau, nor are they similar to each other
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Kakko I don’t see.

Lafreniere I can see a bit based on size, skating, approach, etc.
 
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EdJovanovski said:
Because it's boring that both of our highest picks in franchise history are compared to the exact same guy, which imo neither of them is remotely similar to Huberdeau, nor are they similar to each other
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Well then if they actually aren't similar to Huberdeau to you, it can't matter that much
 
Chytilmania said:
Some people can get away with doing nothing. Even Bartolo Colon was crushing dingers as a big boy. Kessel is a very talented player but I wouldn't consider him one of the fastest or most physical.
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I’m not talking about him being physical. I’m saying he’s a great skater and has been regarded as one for a while.
 
Edge said:
Kessel is one of those guys who people almost forget how supremely talented he actually is.
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Agreed. He’s had multiple point per game seasons.

They remember his personality, they remember memes about his physical conditioning, but he really is an elite level offensive talent.
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The hotdog and Olympic picture memes are hilarious, but he’s a tremendous talent.

At one time, he was seen as a potential top pick in his draft class. Questions about his commitment to the game is partially what dropped him.
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It was a combination of that, a mediocre WJC and Erik Johnson having an incredible WJC that took him out of the top spot. From about October 2004 until the 2006 WJC, Kessel was the consensus #1 for the 06 draft. I first heard about him right after Ovechkin was drafted.

Even now, you regularly hear scouts and people around the league question just how good Kessel could be if he actually dedicated himself completely to being his best.

Because for as good as he is, there’s the perception he could be even better if his work ethic matched his natural ability.
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Which is a scary thought considering the levels he’s produced as is.
 
Edge said:
Kakko I don’t see.

Lafreniere I can see a bit based on size, skating, approach, etc.
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Just from a frame perspective they look exactly the same at the moment. Laf is already Huberdeau sized though so he'll end up playing heavier.

The big difference between the two is that Hubereau is a bit more slippery as a player where as Lafreniere is more willing and able to physically push the action in those high traffic areas. In a way Laf is a blend of both Huberdeau and the guy taken ahead of him in 2011.
 
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