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Draft 2020 Draft & Undrafted Free Agent Thread: Part VI

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Jamie Benn advances,
Tonight we root for Jordie Benn. And JT.
And Horvat and EP and Virtanen.
Let's go 'nucks!
 
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Edge said:
I hear ya, but I think you kind of stumbled upon your answer. Being in a position to get Lafreniere and Kakko is a completely different ballgame for this organization. I just don't think we can stress that enough.

There's a huge difference that takes place when you can grab those franchise players with a first or second pick in a draft. You go from selecting a guy who "could be" one of the best players in his class, to drafting a guy who is "expected to be" one of, if not the best player in his class. It also allows you to gamble more. Becuase you know if you miss with a later pick, you still got a top pick to show for your efforts.

It's kind of like comparing cuts of meat. Not all of them are equal. Yeah, sometimes you can work wonders with a flank steak. But everyone knows they want a tenderloin.

I also think you can't underestimate the kicks at the can this team has taken over the last 4 drafts. Assuming we hold onto the Canes pick, you're looking at 8 first round picks --- and that doesn't include the first rounder we traded for Trouba, or that we at least negotiated the possibility of first rounds picks with Tampa and Dallas. That's a lot of capital with which to work.

Prior to this rebuild, from 2005-2012, I think we got very good overall value from our draft positions. Would it have been nice to land a Bergeron, Marchand or Point? Sure, but I also think that list is short for a reason --- because it's very hard to find those guys. Tampa and Boston stand out because they found those types more than once. But we also can't overlook that those teams also had some significant misses with high picks as well. So even they don't have a spotless record either.

At the end of the day, we're in uncharted waters as a team right now. We've literally never done what we've done the last few years. Ultimately, that's what our reputation should and will be based on. Because for the first time in a long time, we can honestly say we had the picks and pieces to work with in the first place.
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I really find it hard see the logic in viewing the Rangers as a below average drafting team. They have gotten a ton of value out of the picks they kept, not to mention that one of the more promising, and maybe most talented, first round picks we had passed away.

You want a Point or Bergeron? I know it’s early, but it’s hard to view Igor as anything other than a starting quality goalie with the potential to be one of the best in the league.
 
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DutchShamrock said:
I'm glad you can find joy. I'm so miserable in general all I can do is sit there and think how they manage to score the OT goal in game 7 THIS year when the 1st isn't on the line.
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Dont live 16 months ago.
Not worth it.
 
DutchShamrock said:
I'm glad you can find joy. I'm so miserable in general all I can do is sit there and think how they manage to score the OT goal in game 7 THIS year when the 1st isn't on the line.
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btw the Dallas pick was used by NYR to select Robertson,
who may likely be better than, or still have been, the guy NYR mighta picked ~29
he was rated very highly by many scouts, and NYR are considered to have made a great pick with him

Matthew Robertson (b.2001) Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com
2019-Feb-23 Draft pick rights traded from Dallas Stars with conditional round 3 pick in the 2020 draft to New York Rangers for Mats Zuccarello
 
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cwede said:
btw the Dallas pick was used by NYR to select Robertson,
who may likely be better than, or still have been, the guy NYR mighta picked ~29
he was rated very highly by many scouts, and NYR are considered to have made a great pick with him

Matthew Robertson (b.2001) Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com
2019-Feb-23 Draft pick rights traded from Dallas Stars with conditional round 3 pick in the 2020 draft to New York Rangers for Mats Zuccarello
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It was a bad joke/throw away comment. You do raise a great point about the ultimate selection, though.
 
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jas said:
If the Rangers are trading up, I want Mercer or Gunler. If not, give me Mysak or Perrault.
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Don't think you need to trade up for Gunler. Mercer, yes.

I dunno, if they keep the pick, or even if they trade up a couple slots, I have a strong feeling they'll take Holloway. And I'll be one of like 15% of the board who's happy with the pick. :)
 
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Leetch3 said:
it sounds like he's a riser so not sure he falls to us but I don't see us trading up unless its for a forward
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Brooklyn Rangers Fan said:
Unclear. I think most folks had him around 18-24, but he's been a riser according to reports – and if there's a run on D, he might well go top 15.
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Both you guys most likely right on all accounts. I just feel like we don’t have a D like him in our system and in the later first he’d be a great boom player.
 
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