Yeah I may be in the slight minority but I take Kakko/Lafreniere over Hughes/Byfield for two main reasons. Lafreniere is the best overall prospect of the 4 and Byfield is most likely to bust out of the 4.
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just hope Dallas takes care of business and doesn’t screw us of another better draft pick position lol
albeit if St. Louis doesn’t beat Dallas last year the bruins probably win the cup in 2019. And I’m happy with Robertson.
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I think he's right in that mix of guys in that 22-24 spot that I would consider.
At the end of the day, if you want the higher rewards with that pick, there's going to be some inherent risk. I don't find Perrault's risk to be any greater than some of the other names thrown out there.
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had a chance to detail it out for the curious
| 21 | Isles, Stars, Canucks | 3/4 x 3/4 x 1/4 | 9/64 | 9/64 | 21 |
| 22 | Isles, Stars, Vegas | 3/4 x 3/4 x 3/4 | 27/64 | ||
| 22 | Isles, Canucks, Avs | 3/4 x 1/4 x 1/4 | 3/64 | 33/64 | 22 |
| 22 | Stars, Canucks, Flyers | 3/4 x 1/4 x 1/4 | 3/64 | ||
| 23 | Isles, Vegas, Avs | 3/4 x 3/4 x 1/4 | 9/64 | ||
| 23 | Stars, Vegas, Flyers | 3/4 x 3/4 x 1/4 | 9/64 | 19/64 | 23 |
| 23 | Avs, Flyers, Canucks | 1/4 x 1/4 x 1/4 | 1/64 | ||
| 24 | Avs, Vegas, Flyers | 1/4 x 3/4 x 1/4 | 3/64 | 3/64 | 24 |
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In addition to my inherent concerns about terms like "closer to ready" and "closer to finished" setting the bar too high, too soon, I also get concerned when people use them interchangeably.
To the first point, I always try to remind people that a kid who is closer to playing in the NHL, isn't going to come in playing like he's in the prime of his career. You'd think that's a given, but I also feel like it's easy to forget.
To the second point, I think there's a gap between "closer to ready" and "closer to finished". I know you aren't using them this way, but for others who are reading I think the latter term tends to apply to older prospects who are playing pro overseas and targeted to slide into a more clearly defined role in the NHL.
I say that only because if Lundell ends up as a Ranger, I think there may be people who see him coming in as third line center from day one of his North American career and more or less staying there for the next decade.
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Guhle is a kid who could realistically go in the top 15 --- I think he's going to be a riser. I also believe it's quite possible we see 4 defensemen go in the top 15 (Sanderson, Drysdale, Guhle and Schneider).
I would put Guhle behind Miller, but ahead of Robertson and Jones based on his upside/the potential total package.
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Well, from a scouting standpoint, you aren't too far off.
Lafreniere is the consensus top pick this year, and generally seen to be the best player by a good margin as well.
Last year, I think Hughes was the choice of 60 percent of scouts, with Kakko being preferred by 30 percent, and around 10 percent feeling it was too close to call.
But Lafreniere is also seen as being better than both Hughes and Kakko. So if you're fantasy ranking, the top 3 of the last two drafts, it would probably look like this:
1. Lafreniere
2. Hughes
3. Kakko
4. Byfield
5. Stutzle
6. Dach
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Toronto, now drafting #15, screams defense. That changes up the middle of the first round. Could mean a run on Defenseman happens sooner rather than later.
Love the kid and think that he brings exactly the roster diversification that the starting line up needs. I doubt he would be there with the Carolina pick, but would be all over him.
Would not be able to take Bourque in any of those drafts with the players who seem to come after. And there is no way that Mysak drops to 30.
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I have been pretty gun-shy on Bourque because of the skating and the overall lack of pace, but I think his upside gets downplayed quite a bit. His vision, poise, hands and scoring touch are all top notch and I think he's better defensively than people give him credit for.
Ironically, I could see Ryan Strome being a realistic upside for him as a crafty middle six pivot who doesn't necessarily drive his line but can either be the facilitator or finisher for his line mates. He needs to learn to keep his feet moving though and you'd like to see him push into the middle of the ice more regularly.
Ironically, I could see Ryan Strome being a realistic upside for him as a crafty middle six pivot who doesn't necessarily drive his line but can either be the facilitator or finisher for his line mates. He needs to learn to keep his feet moving though and you'd like to see him push into the middle of the ice more regularly.
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i ordered @Steve Kournianos $5, 300+ page Draft Report for 2020
The 2020 NHL Draft Report is here! - The Draft Analyst
i don't always see what he sees, but great effort to compile
no one is perfect, in 2019 he overlooked Skinner and Edstrom, but did include Ciccolini
and foresaw Jones's strengths,
and in general it was great companion to draft watching,
and cross-referencing players as they catch your attention (like so many of these guys who you all call out here every day)
The 2020 NHL Draft Report is here! - The Draft Analyst
i don't always see what he sees, but great effort to compile
no one is perfect, in 2019 he overlooked Skinner and Edstrom, but did include Ciccolini
and foresaw Jones's strengths,
and in general it was great companion to draft watching,
and cross-referencing players as they catch your attention (like so many of these guys who you all call out here every day)
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I would think but I also could also see 3 d-men potentially going between the Winnipeg #10 Nashville #11 Florida #12 (and if Askarov isn't already taken) the Carolina #13 which would mean forwards would be falling like ten pins. This scenario works if Drysdale, Sanderson, Schneider, Guhle go early (Sanderson and Drysdale should do that anyway) and possibly say a Wallinder, Grans and/or O'Rourke go a lot earlier than expected. Some of these teams I think if they had their druthers would rather go D than C or LW/RW.
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love that site, but haven't taken the bait, to subscribe to Premium for $100/year
Has it been worth it?
I think his write ups are super solid.
Rankings are what they are. Very hard to do. Very subjective. We won’t know the outcome of them in at least 10 years. And so forth.
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It depends. I use their premium filter on a daily basis so that alone makes it worth it for me
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Not even commenting on whether or not I agree with the picks, but if we take 4 kids from the OHL and not even ONE European player, I will videotape myself eating one of my neckties and post it on HF Boards.
No idea if they will or won't, but think I am going to remember this one. Just in case of the need to call you out on it.
Schenider to the Leafs seems like a lock.
Right handed, Defense first, Physically mature, close to ready. Picking for need is dumb but with the position they're in, they kind of have to.
Its going to be really hard to screw up the Carolina pick if they get it. I anticipate that the players I don't want will be gone by the time that pick comes up and there are a ton of "lesser" names that will turn out to be better players than a bunch of guys who are commonly ranked 15-31.
McKenzie's list has him outside of the 1st round.
Doesn't mean he won't go in the 1st, but its a realistic possibility.
Right handed, Defense first, Physically mature, close to ready. Picking for need is dumb but with the position they're in, they kind of have to.
Its going to be really hard to screw up the Carolina pick if they get it. I anticipate that the players I don't want will be gone by the time that pick comes up and there are a ton of "lesser" names that will turn out to be better players than a bunch of guys who are commonly ranked 15-31.
McKenzie's list has him outside of the 1st round.
Doesn't mean he won't go in the 1st, but its a realistic possibility.
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Change is good.
Are the Rangers the unluckiest lottery winners in history? Both years we need a center and we win the lottery to move into a spot where the consensus is a winger
Swap the two, and you have Hughes and Byfield instead
I hear you (and I'm a huge fan of Byfield and would love to get him) but consensus is that Lafreniere is the best player of the four, while in 2019 Hughes and Kakko were neck and neck, so it is probably the better result. And lest we forget, we do have Mika.
Just need to do the work to find that 2C...
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