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2020 Draft & Undrafted Free Agent Thread: Part IV

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Edge said:
Bingo.

Should the Rangers somehow win the lottery, the only other scenario I can even possibly envision is the Rangers considering a trade with Ottawa for picks 3 and 5.
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If they made that trade I think it would be really interesting to see who they'd take with 5, and I'm sure that would be the one to drive people here crazy (assuming they take whoever is left of Stutzle/Byfield)
 
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GeorgeKaplan said:
If they made that trade I think it would be really interesting to see who they'd take with 5, and I'm sure that would be the one to drive people here crazy (assuming they take whoever is left of Stutzle/Byfield)
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You’re right on both. The given is they’d take one of Stutzle/Byfield.

With the 5th pick? I’ll just come right out and say it, I think they’d take Sanderson with that pick.

I think they’d also then look to move the Canes pick for veteran help. If they can’t, I think they’d swing big on a winger.
 
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Edge said:
You’re right on both. The given is they’d take one of Stutzle/Byfield.

With the 5th pick? I’ll just come right out and say it, I think they’d take Sanderson with that pick.

I think they’d also then look to move the Canes pick for veteran help. If they can’t, I think they’d swing big on a winger.
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Had a feeling you'd say that you think they would take Sanderson at 5, and I think I'd probably end up in the 'not thrilled about that' camp.

And I've known this whole time that trading that Carolina pick for help now has always been an option, but I still don't know how much I love that idea either, I'd assume that would have to be a LD that's at least like a top pair tweener, if not a bonafide one
 
Harbour Dog said:
What are your thoughts on Amirov around 12OA, or of him slipping into the early 20s?
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Getting away from fantasy drafting for a second, I could definitely see Amirov as a dark horse candidate for the Rangers top pick.

There’s always at least one guy who isn’t talked about as much who’s on the Rangers list and Amirov fits a lot of check boxes.
 
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Looking at the NHL draft black book--the one issue that Lafreniere gets not so great marks for is his skating. They give him a 6. The much larger Byfield get an 8 and Stutzle a 9. Personally between Lafreniere and Byfield I think you have to go with Lafreniere--though having that kind of big body center that Byfield is is something the Rangers really could use. My question is really more about Stutzle because I'm thinking he could easily turn out as good as Lafreniere.
 
eco's bones said:
Looking at the NHL draft black book--the one issue that Lafreniere gets not so great marks for is his skating. They give him a 6. The much larger Byfield get an 8 and Stutzle a 9. Personally between Lafreniere and Byfield I think you have to go with Lafreniere--though having that kind of big body center that Byfield is is something the Rangers really could use. My question is really more about Stutzle because I'm thinking he could easily turn out as good as Lafreniere.
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He's the only one who should even be in the conversation for 1OA.

Byfield is a really, really intriguing player but those guys who are that big at that age always worry me since they're playing against kids who are much smaller. He moves like a top prospect though so there's less worry there on my end, but he's a clear #3 for me.

Those guys nailed their evaluation on Holloway btw. I think he should be ranked even lower.
 
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If by some fantasyland scenario they won the 1st and traded it for 3 and 5

I’d take Stutzle and Holtz

If the gap between Lafreniere and Byfield was smaller, I wouldn’t have a problem doing what Larry says but the gap is just too big to consider
 
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For those who don't like Holloway, what about if we get a 2nd rounder for George or someone. Everyone complains about our bottom 6 it wouldn't hurt to draft guys that fill out there as well.
 
Chytilmania said:
For those who don't like Holloway, what about if we get a 2nd rounder for George or someone. Everyone complains about our bottom 6 it wouldn't hurt to draft guys that fill out there as well.
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Sure. Even late in the 1st its a conversation worth having.

He's almost a sure thing he goes inside the top 15-18 which is is too high and the fact that he has a lot of the intangible attributes that our FO overvalues scares me.
 
Chytilmania said:
For those who don't like Holloway, what about if we get a 2nd rounder for George or someone. Everyone complains about our bottom 6 it wouldn't hurt to draft guys that fill out there as well.
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I have no problem at all with Holloway with a high 2nd round pick. I just don't think he's the type of guy we should target in the current phase of the rebuild, with a mid-to-high first round pick
 
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Edge said:
You’re right on both. The given is they’d take one of Stutzle/Byfield.

With the 5th pick? I’ll just come right out and say it, I think they’d take Sanderson with that pick.

I think they’d also then look to move the Canes pick for veteran help. If they can’t, I think they’d swing big on a winger.
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oh god the reactions if we used #5 on a LHD instead of a 2nd stud forward lol
 
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GoAwayStaal said:
He's the only one who should even be in the conversation for 1OA.

Byfield is a really, really intriguing player but those guys who are that big at that age always worry me since they're playing against kids who are much smaller. He moves like a top prospect though so there's less worry there on my end, but he's a clear #3 for me.

Those guys nailed their evaluation on Holloway btw. I think he should be ranked even lower.
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If they really want Byfield I think Edge's idea is the best--make a deal with Ottawa--see if they'll give us both the 3 and the 5. Worse case scenario if the Kings took Byfield is that you end up with Stutzle (which isn't really a worse case scenario at all) and maybe Sanderson. Stutzle and Sanderson or Byfield and Sanderson--sign me up. I think Sanderson's going to be something like a Scott Niedermayer. That said we really don't need LD but he'd be the guy I'd want there.
 
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eco's bones said:
If they really want Byfield I think Edge's idea is the best--make a deal with Ottawa--see if they'll give us both the 3 and the 5. Worse case scenario if the Kings took Byfield is that you end up with Stutzle (which isn't really a worse case scenario at all) and maybe Sanderson. Stutzle and Sanderson or Byfield and Sanderson--sign me up. I think Sanderson's going to be something like a Scott Niedermayer. That said we really don't need LD but he'd be the guy I'd want there.
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the kings will take byfield and that is why we wouldn't even entertain the trade. you aren't moving down to 3 and getting byfield so stay at #1 and take laf
 
I think we need two really good goaltenders. I don't think Henrik is good enough anymore. The most games Igor's played in one season is low 50's and that includes playoffs. I think our next full season he plays about 50 regular season games and then we try to run with him in the playoffs. If he gets 70 points from his starts--the other goaltender (handling the other 30 or so) if he breaks even in his starts is going to put us in the 100 point range in standings. That's not first place. That might be third or fourth in the division. I don't think Henrik gets us there. He's old and declining and he's got a starter's mentality. We need to turn the page with him.

I'm reluctant to move Alex because IMO we're going to have some kind of goaltending blowup before our next season is over if Henrik is the backup. I don't see Huska or Wall as good options as a fallback plan. Huska wasn't impressive last year. Wall will be a rookie pro.
 
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Edge said:
You’re right on both. The given is they’d take one of Stutzle/Byfield.

With the 5th pick? I’ll just come right out and say it, I think they’d take Sanderson with that pick.

I think they’d also then look to move the Canes pick for veteran help. If they can’t, I think they’d swing big on a winger.
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I think I would vomit if we took Sanderson at 5. Stutzle/Byfield at 3, Drysdale/Rossi at 5
 
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eco's bones said:
I think we need two really good goaltenders. I don't think Henrik is good enough anymore. The most games Igor's played in one season is low 50's and that includes playoffs. I think our next full season he plays about 50 regular season games and then we try to run with him in the playoffs..
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+1

i believe two solid young goalies is the best option. An injury can occur at any moment and we will still have this Covid thing floating around. By season’s end, every point counts so keep the goaltending strong.
 
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GoAwayStaal said:
I think people will back up from the edge when they see Sanderson skate.

I question the offensive upside, but as far as taking care of business in his own end and being able to aid in transition he is a stud.
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lol that is not how it works here...after 12 straight months of how awful our LD is and how we need to acquire a good LD. if we drafted one suddenly those same people will say its a wasted pick cause our LD is stacked in the system
 
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I think people will back up from the edge when they see Sanderson skate.

I question the offensive upside, but as far as taking care of business in his own end and being able to aid in transition he is a stud.
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I think the struggle with Sanderson is that people would keep expecting big points and I don’t know if that will ever be him jam.

Right now, I have a feeling the Rangers like Sanderson’s potential upside more than Drysdale. I think there’s a good possibility that Sanderson might be viewed that way by several teams.

He could be the guy who generates the initial reaction among fans that he was taken too high. But he could also be the guy nobody bats en eye about in 3 years.
 
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Edge said:
I think the struggle with Sanderson is that people would keep expecting big points and I don’t know if that will ever be him jam.

Right now, I have a feeling the Rangers like Sanderson’s potential upside more than Drysdale. I think there’s a good possibility that Sanderson might be viewed that way by several teams.

He could be the guy who generates the initial reaction among fans that he was taken too high. But he could also be the guy nobody bats en eye about in 3 years.
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Honestly, so do I.

There is enough there off the bat where I'm very comfortable taking him in the top 10 and if the offense comes around, hes a superstar.
 
If you think Sanderson is going to be a top pairing D for the next decade, you take him

I'd rather take an elite forward, but if you take Sanderson you make due and start strategizing ways to trade another LD prospect for the forward
 
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