2019 Off-Season Non-Management Thread - Canucks/Boeser talking 4-5 years, $7m AAV - Kypreos)

[The Drop]

Trouba to the Rangers for the 20th (which was their own pick lol) and Pionk.

Jimbo... you’ve been lapped by the Rangers.

 

[MS]

Trouba to the Rangers for the 20th (which was their own pick lol) and Pionk.

Jimbo... you’ve been lapped by the Rangers.

To be fair, this is a case where the Rangers have a huge competitive advantage and there was basically no point even discussing Trouba as he was never, ever going to sign here.

That said, Benning has completely failed to do anything to improve this team or build depth in 6 years. The best trade acquisition on this roster is Sven Baertschi, an injury-prone fringe 2nd liner with a career high of 35 points.

 

[The Drop]

To be fair, this is a case where the Rangers have a huge competitive advantage and there was basically no point even discussing Trouba as he was never, ever going to sign here.

That said, Benning has completely failed to do anything to improve this team or build depth in 6 years. The best trade acquisition on this roster is Sven Baertschi, an injury-prone fringe 2nd liner with a career high of 35 points.

Acquiring first and 2nd round picks is what I’m getting at.

Not Trouba specifically but there are plenty of players out there you can fleece a GM for. Especially if he doesn’t have a first rounder and it’s draft week.

 

[ginner classic]

Feel free to take a stab at that....

 

[The Drop]

Feel free to take a stab at that....

Is that you?

Solid take

 

[PG Canuck]

Absolutely beyond hilarious that Edler “wouldn’t accept a trade” yet he’s likely to hit the open market?

I’m so f***ing tired of this shit franchise.

 

[timw33]

I think we're going to pull off the full Jimbo and miss out on Edler, Gardiner, and Myers.

Instead of going for some value FA like Heed or Nemeth, we'll land Adam Mcquaid at like $3.5MM a season.

 

[member 290103]

Absolutely beyond hilarious that Edler “wouldn’t accept a trade” yet he’s likely to hit the open market?

I’m so ****ing tired of this **** franchise.

I don't believe it. I think this is his agent posturing. That said, I have not been following the news all day. I have no issue with Edler refusing a trade with his NTC. He has that right. I do have a major issue with him trying to put the screws to the Canucks to get a NMC so he gets expansion protection - if that is indeed what the issue is. Why not just sign a two year deal for around 5-6M per and then re up after the expansion draft.

The agent is being smart here trying to drive the bus on this, but I do respect Jim here if he says no, takes a stand and lets Edler walk. I'd rather have no Edler than Edler on a 4 year expansion draft crippling deal that results in the team losing a younger better player.

 

[member 290103]

The idea of trading next year's first makes me sick. Imagine being Ottawa this year, knowing that you suck, and not even being able to look forward to the draft.

We're already going to be bad next year with our awful defense - a Petersson injury (the guy is a bit injury prone thus far) and we're a mortal lock for bottom 5.

Totally agree. If you are a lottery team, you have no business trading 1st round picks. None at all. The only teams that should be ok with trading 1st round picks are the teams that are legit Stanley Cup contenders (this of course is barring some possibility of acquiring a young star player).

 

[BeardyCanuck03]

Absolutely beyond hilarious that Edler “wouldn’t accept a trade” yet he’s likely to hit the open market?

I’m so ****ing tired of this **** franchise.

You're blinded by your bias.

Accepting a trade midseason would mean he's either have to uproot his family suddenly or spend a few months away from them.

Choosing where he goes in the summer allows him to move at a much less hectic pace.

Edler not waiving and then choosing a place he wants to go in the summer makes a lot of sense.

 

[canucksfan]

You're blinded by your bias.

Accepting a trade midseason would mean he's either have to uproot his family suddenly or spend a few months away from them.

Choosing where he goes in the summer allows him to move at a much less hectic pace.

Edler not waiving and then choosing a place he wants to go in the summer makes a lot of sense.

I tend to agree with this. However, it depends on when Jim asked Edler to waive his NMC. He has had a history asking a few days prior to the deadline. It should be done well ahead of time(months).

 

[Bettman Returnz]

I am even more interested to see how many jump band wagons when Seattle enters the league! If this non sense keeps up for the Canucks it could get interesting...1 step forward, 2 steps back!

 

[TruGr1t]

Some have mentioned Zaitsev:

The Canucks potential interest in Toronto blueliner Nikita Zaitsev is more likely a Plan B option, according to a source, as pending-UFA Erik Karlssonand Tyler Myers are other options the team could be interested in.
-Pierre LeBrun

 

[BeardyCanuck03]

I tend to agree with this. However, it depends on when Jim asked Edler to waive his NMC. He has had a history asking a dew days prior to the deadline. It should be done well ahead of time(months).

I mean, I agree with that, but the Canucks were still in the playoff hunt until Edler got injured at the begining of February.

You can argue whether or not that's the right decision to make but in month of the deadline, Edler was dealing with a concussion and trade talks would've been on the back burner for both Edler and the Canucks.

There were last minute offers but do you really think Edler would've wanted to uproot his life/family before being fully recovered from a concussion?

 

[Carnal]

So when Tanev inevitably gets injured next year, we will ice:

Hutton Stecher
Hughes Biega
Juolevi Schenn

Look out western conference there's a new top dog!

 

[canucksfan]

I mean, I agree with that, but the Canucks were still in the playoff hunt until Edler got injured at the begining of February.

You can argue whether or not that's the right decision to make but in month of the deadline, Edler was dealing with a concussion and trade talks would've been on the back burner for both Edler and the Canucks.

There were last minute offers but do you really think Edler would've wanted to uproot his life/family before being fully recovered from a concussion?

Near the start of the season management should have went to Edler and asked if we are out of the playoffs are you willing to move.

This isn’t as bad as Hamhuis(might have the player wrong) where he was asked a day or two before the deadline.

 

[canucksfan]

So when Tanev inevitably gets injured next year, we will ice:

Hutton Stecher
Hughes Biega
Juolevi Schenn

Look out western conference there's a new top dog!

And now unfortunately Jimbo will overpay for a FA defender or via trade.

 

[BeardyCanuck03]

Near the start of the season management should have went to Edler and asked if we are out of the playoffs are you willing to move.

This isn’t as bad as Hamhuis(might have the player wrong) where he was asked a day or two before the deadline.

Who knows, maybe they did? All the rumours about Edler have said that he wouldn't waive. Why would asking earlier change that?

 

[dbaz]

Near the start of the season management should have went to Edler and asked if we are out of the playoffs are you willing to move.

How do we know he didnt?

 

[canucksfan]

How do we know he didnt?

We don’t

 

[Burke's Evil Spirit]

Trouba goes for peanuts, and now WPG down a RS d-man I hope they re-sign Myers to save us from ourselves.

Remember Pionk himself is a right-shot defenseman, who will probably be re-signed to a $2.5M-$3M contract himself. With Byfuglien making $7.6M already I don't think Myers, even at a heavy discount, fits in.

 

[Cancuks]

Let Edler walk. Trade Linus Karlsson back to SJ for Brendan Dillon. There, problem fixed for this season.

 

[DonnyNucker]

Trouba to the Rangers for the 20th (which was their own pick lol) and Pionk.

Jimbo... you’ve been lapped by the Rangers.

Not meaning to defend Jim. But NYR have an advantage over the entire league. UFAs will take less term and $ to sign. Easier to flip players for picks

 

[Addison Rae]

Not meaning to defend Jim. But NYR have an advantage over the entire league. UFAs will take less term and $ to sign. Easier to flip players for picks

When have players ever taken less to play in New York?

 

[ginner classic]

Is that you?

Solid take

Thanks.