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Pre-Game Talk: 2019 NHL Draft, Pt. V: Got your ticket? (Mod note in pinned post)

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Nuckler said:
What do people think about domnick fensore, he's a 5'7" dman who played for the USA ntdp in pronmans 107 prospects for 2019 he pins him as a kid with excellent skating, puck skills, compete level, and hockey sense. If he was 6' he'd probably go top 5 from the sounds of him. Also a September 01 bday so very young.

Anyways he mentions the possiblity of drafting him and converting him to forward And really he would be pretty much the same size as caulfield. If he's there at our 3rd or 4th would you take a risk on him and hope he either has a late growth spurt or can convert to forward?
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Small LHD I'd be fine with if he's there in the 3rd round. But with Hughes, Juolevi on the left potentially already that's a pretty small group to be going forward with in the future if they do all hit.

biturbo19 said:
Pelletier is a kind of peculiar name on that list of forward considerations in the Top-10. Really haven't seen him getting any of that kind of steam in his draft stock, and from what i've seen, i wouldn't got near that high with him. I'd be looking at him more as potentially falling to our 2nd rounder. Personally, i'd probably throw Lavoie in there instead, which others might find peculiar and a bit of a reach i guess. But with his size, shot, skating, there's huge upside there if he can develop a level of consistency to his game and play at that playoff level all the time. What puts Pelletier in that conversation at 10 for you?
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DFAC said:
@biturbo19 just wanted to say that I really enjoy reading your analysis (even though I might not agree with it 100%).

One of the better posters around here:thumbu:

I know you are high on Lavoie... my question is how much of his success do you think is attributed to his size dominating at the junior levels? Will this translate to the NHL where he won't be the biggest guy out there on the ice?

He would be a fine pick in the later half of the 1st round... just wouldn't take him at 10 where other guys like Krebs, Newhook or Caufield might be there.

One guy I would avoid is Soderstrom.... the last thing the Canucks need is a small-ish defensive dman. Hard pass. If the Canucks do decide to go and pick a dman, they should look at York/Heinola/Seider. Heinola is my favorite of the 3, followed closely by Seider and then York. I think Heinola and Seider both have top pairing potential and at pick 10, that's not a bad outcome at all. I've heard Harley's name thrown around too but I haven't seen or read too much of him to form much of an opinion
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Lavoie I would be pumped with getting in the 2nd round.
y2kcanucks said:
It’s being reported by Dhaliwal that the Canucks are leaning towards a defenseman at 10. So, in other words, these idiots haven’t learned a thing and are going to make another mistake just like their big blunder in 2016.
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That's ridiculous. Really hope someone ahead of us takes whoever "our guy" is in that case so that they actually take the BPA. If any of Boldy, Cozens, Caufield or Zegras are still available and we go with a D-man I will be pissed (assuming the top 5 goes to the consensus with Hughes, Kakko, Byrum, Turcotte, Dach).
 
THE Green Man said:
That's ridiculous. Really hope someone ahead of us takes whoever "our guy" is in that case so that they actually take the BPA. If any of Boldy, Cozens, Caufield or Zegras are still available and we go with a D-man I will be pissed (assuming the top 5 goes to the consensus with Hughes, Kakko, Byrum, Turcotte, Dach).
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My guess is if Broberg is taken at 8 by Edmonton then the Canucks will probably take Soderstrom. You just get that feeling that no matter who is on the board they're going with a defenseman. It's Benning's typical one track mind.
 
Wasnt Jouelvi drafted because of that wjc tournament? And yet scouts often put international play ahead of regular season. When will they learn?
 
y2kcanucks said:
My guess is if Broberg is taken at 8 by Edmonton then the Canucks will probably take Soderstrom. You just get that feeling that no matter who is on the board they're going with a defenseman. It's Benning's typical one track mind.
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1000% that is the fear. If one of my 9 names is on the board I am livid. If it's a choice between Krebs, Podz, Newhook and the d-men I am ok with taking a blue liner but still hesitant. Personally I would rather trade down and re-coup an additional 2nd if my top 9 are gone.
 
y2kcanucks said:
It’s being reported by Dhaliwal that the Canucks are leaning towards a defenseman at 10. So, in other words, these idiots haven’t learned a thing and are going to make another mistake just like their big blunder in 2016.
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This draft is wide open and there 3-4 Dmen who wouldn't be reaches at 10. This is why I have the term BPA. Each teams list is different and the BPA on one list isn't necessarily going to be the same as another team, or the numerous public lists.

I believe the BPA at 10 is likely going to be a forward but as long as it's not Soderstrom (don't think he has much upside), I wouldn't be too upset if they draft Seider, Harley or Broberg.
 
THE Green Man said:
1000% that is the fear. If one of my 9 names is on the board I am livid. If it's a choice between Krebs, Podz, Newhook and the d-men I am ok with taking a blue liner but still hesitant. Personally I would rather trade down and re-coup an additional 2nd if my top 9 are gone.
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I'm not at all okay with taking a d-man over any of those names.
 
BeardyCanuck03 said:
This draft is wide open and there 3-4 Dmen who wouldn't be reaches at 10. This is why I have the term BPA. Each teams list is different and the BPA on one list isn't necessarily going to be the same as another team, or the numerous public lists.

I believe the BPA at 10 is likely going to be a forward but as long as it's not Soderstrom (don't think he has much upside), I wouldn't be too upset if they draft Seider, Harley or Broberg.
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Wrong.

Byram is the only d-man who wouldn't be a reach at 10, and he won't make it to 10. This draft is clearly forward top heavy, so reaching on a defenseman is a bad move at 10.
 
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I think at this point you have to be pretty disappointed if they take a defenseman because it certainly looks like another case of drafting for need. Broberg has made his way into a few top 10 lists I've seen, but none of the other d-men are even close. They tend to fall on most lists at 15+ OA.

It would make some sense if they thought they could draft a guy that will slot into the line-up as early as next season because there's clearly room on the blue line. Especially if Edler leaves via FA. I just don't see a defenseman on the list that is even close to NHL ready.

It will be especially disappointing as I definitely see us having the chance to get one of Podkolzin, Krebs, Cozens, Boldy or Zegras. This organization cannot handle another Juolevi-Tkachuk screw up.
 
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y2kcanucks said:
My guess is if Broberg is taken at 8 by Edmonton then the Canucks will probably take Soderstrom. You just get that feeling that no matter who is on the board they're going with a defenseman. It's Benning's typical one track mind.
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No they will go with their BPA. Benning, Weisbrod and Brackett have all said this recently.
 
DonnyNucker said:
No they will go with their BPA. Benning, Weisbrod and Brackett have all said this recently.
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What they say and what they do can be two different things. For all we know they may have Hughes, Kakko, Byram, Broberg, Soderstrom, Harley, Seider listed as their BPA on their list which would be absolutely ridiculous.
 
Their BPA has proven to be hilariously far from the actual bpa, or even the consensus best player.
Multiple times
 
y2kcanucks said:
What they say and what they do can be two different things. For all we know they may have Hughes, Kakko, Byram, Broberg, Soderstrom, Harley, Seider listed as their BPA on their list which would be absolutely ridiculous.
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The highest available player on their list may be a dman. That’s not drafting for position it’s drsfting BPA. You may dislike how they rank players but that doesn’t change the fact that they would be taking their highest ranked player available
 
DonnyNucker said:
The highest available player on their list may be a dman. That’s not drafting for position it’s drsfting BPA. You may dislike how they rank players but that doesn’t change the fact that they would be taking their highest ranked player available
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The problem is they've proven to be horrible at scouting, drafting, acquiring, and developing defensemen. The skepticism is warranted. The blue line is in shambles for a reason.
 
y2kcanucks said:
What they say and what they do can be two different things. For all we know they may have Hughes, Kakko, Byram, Broberg, Soderstrom, Harley, Seider listed as their BPA on their list which would be absolutely ridiculous.
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Now you're just hyperbolically speculating to try and prove your point.

For all we know they have one of those dmen ranked very high and if that dman is gone they go forward.
 
TruGr1t said:
The problem is they've proven to be horrible at scouting, drafting, acquiring, and developing defensemen. The skepticism is warranted. The blue line is in shambles for a reason.
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Now that’s a fair point. Although, not sure the organization can stop drafting dmen because they have traditionally drafted forwards better. Would lead to a pretty imbalanced team
 
DonnyNucker said:
The highest available player on their list may be a dman. That’s not drafting for position it’s drsfting BPA. You may dislike how they rank players but that doesn’t change the fact that they would be taking their highest ranked player available
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I disagree. I think they likely have emphasized defensemen on their list because of position.
 
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DonnyNucker said:
Now that’s a fair point. Although, not sure the organization can stop drafting dmen because they have traditionally drafted forwards better. Would lead to a pretty imbalanced team
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Obviously not, they should actually be loading up on defensemen in this draft. It would, however, make me resistant to them reaching for a defenseman at 10 OA over some of the marquee forwards. I am hoping they go defense heavy in subsequent rounds.
 
My best guess is that Dhaliwal heard the Canucks may have one of Broberg, Harley, Seider, or Soderstrom high up on their list and with the Canucks picking 10th, it's pretty likely that none of those players are taken before 10.
 
York is getting underrated IMO. That said, I still don't see a defender I want at 10.

C'mon Benning, either take BPA or trade down four or five spots and fill yer boots. There are five guys from 12 -20 in the rankings. All appear like 2nd pairing quality, solid D.
 
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