2019-20 Kings News/Rumors

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johnjm22

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Management has consistently shown themselves to be reactionary. Coming off the poor road trip, they could see the low attendance forecasts for the upcoming games and choose to escalate the situation with Kovalchuk in the hope he would choose to retire early. Saving the Kings cash out the door.

Low attendance is a real problem for management. In game parking, concessions, advertising & merch add up in aggregate. And when attendance is cratering early in a season, it makes the rest of the year look very long and bleak. That could cause management to do things which look weird to outsiders.

Given Kovalchuk is still owed over $5M in salary, it's easy to see why he would push back if the GM told him that he wasn't part of the team anymore and not even welcome to practice. Kovy isn't going to do anything on his side to allow BLuc to "Mike Richards" him and get out of paying him money.

Lucky for Kovy, Bluc aren't as smart as Dean Lombardi and aren't qualified to even come close to making that happen, seeing how easy it was for the story to leak. Best case scenario is that Jeff Solomon is given the task to clean up this mess. He's the only smart management left who isn't part of scouting.

A lot of fans seem fixated on the on ice issues with Kovalchuk. That is playing into management's spin. Objectively, based on his performance, there is no real reason to single out Kovalchuk over Carter, Quick and given there cap busting salaries, Kopitar and Doughty, for public shaming by the coach and benching. All are paid highly to make this team competitive, going by BLuc's own public statements.

I think sooner Kovalchuk leaves the better. Same for Carter, Quick and almost every single vet outside of Doughty. Once again Rob Blake needs to put on his big boy pants and just buy out Kovalchuk for some significant chunk of his remaining salary.

He missed his opportunity to do so over the summer. Same for making trades. It looks like he only had the appetite or political capital to get rid of Phaneuf. Too slow, too little, too late.
Benching Kovalchuk has nothing to do with attendance. Your logic is very bizarre.

Buying out Kovalchuk would have been a stupid move. It would've just prolonged having him on the books.

If Dean were so smart he would've got rid of Richards during the free buyout window. Richards got caught smuggling drugs so the Kings had an excuse to terminate his deal. That doesn't make Lombardi clever, it makes him lucky that he was able to get of the terrible contract he failed get rid of when he had the chance.
 
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Fishhead

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Of course Kempe is going to be back in. What's the point of sitting him unless you are going to put him back in to see if it works?
 

jfont

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i'm of the opinion that the kings should just trade Kovy for Backes.

I think Backes would fit better even though the game may have left him but who knows, he might find his game here in LA. Change of scenery and all that..

Plus, he's got lots of dogs. he'll fit in with the kings
 

YP44

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Benching Kovalchuk has nothing to do with attendance. You're logic is very bizarre.

Buying out Kovalchuk would have been a stupid move. It would've just prolonged having him on the books.

If Dean were so smart he would've got rid of Richards during the free buyout window. Richards got caught smuggling drugs so the Kings had an excuse to terminate his deal. That doesn't make Lombardi clever, it makes him lucky that he was able to get of the terrible contract he failed get rid of when he had the chance.

I still wonder what the trade was that was rumored to send Richards to the Flames or Oilers on the draft floor. Then the border happened and DL pulled the plug.
 

crassbonanza

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Richards got caught smuggling drugs so the Kings had an excuse to terminate his deal. That doesn't make Lombardi clever, it makes him lucky that he was able to get of the terrible contract he failed get rid of when he had the chance.

You know he wasn't able to get rid of the contract right? This year Richards has a 1.66 million cap hit, next season it is a .7 million cap hit, the following is .9 million. This goes on until 2036.
 

crassbonanza

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So, it seems that the hockey news either jumped the gun or just got plain bad information. Rosen had this tweet about Kovalchuk about an hour ago :

"I don’t know what was reported. I’m a regular player. Everybody’s got a healthy scratch, and we’re in last place, so coach has to do something to change things, and I’m just here every day for the guys, for the team and if they need me, I’m ready to go."
 

ibleedkings

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Jul 19, 2004
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I kind of feel the opposite, he actually benches guys and holds them accountable. I also feel like he does a good job of rotating guys in and out to keep them sharp. I can't remember the last time we had a coach that did this.

Lewis should have been scratched multiple times before his injury and probably AI. Grundstorm keeps sitting and it's frustrating. I like that he holds some accountable, but he's not holding everyone accountable.
 

Seventyx7

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Lewis should have been scratched multiple times before his injury and probably AI. Grundstorm keeps sitting and it's frustrating. I like that he holds some accountable, but he's not holding everyone accountable.
Grundstrom had a lousy game on Tuesday.
 

KingsFan7824

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Management has consistently shown themselves to be reactionary. Coming off the poor road trip, they could see the low attendance forecasts for the upcoming games and choose to escalate the situation with Kovalchuk in the hope he would choose to retire early. Saving the Kings cash out the door.

Low attendance is a real problem for management. In game parking, concessions, advertising & merch add up in aggregate. And when attendance is cratering early in a season, it makes the rest of the year look very long and bleak. That could cause management to do things which look weird to outsiders.

Given Kovalchuk is still owed over $5M in salary, it's easy to see why he would push back if the GM told him that he wasn't part of the team anymore and not even welcome to practice. Kovy isn't going to do anything on his side to allow BLuc to "Mike Richards" him and get out of paying him money.

Lucky for Kovy, Bluc aren't as smart as Dean Lombardi and aren't qualified to even come close to making that happen, seeing how easy it was for the story to leak. Best case scenario is that Jeff Solomon is given the task to clean up this mess. He's the only smart management left who isn't part of scouting.

A lot of fans seem fixated on the on ice issues with Kovalchuk. That is playing into management's spin. Objectively, based on his performance, there is no real reason to single out Kovalchuk over Carter, Quick and given there cap busting salaries, Kopitar and Doughty, for public shaming by the coach and benching. All are paid highly to make this team competitive, going by BLuc's own public statements.

I think sooner Kovalchuk leaves the better. Same for Carter, Quick and almost every single vet outside of Doughty. Once again Rob Blake needs to put on his big boy pants and just buy out Kovalchuk for some significant chunk of his remaining salary.

He missed his opportunity to do so over the summer. Same for making trades. It looks like he only had the appetite or political capital to get rid of Phaneuf. Too slow, too little, too late.

For a couple guys that aren't all that smart, you do give them a lot of credit to be able to concoct a scheme based on attendance forecasts. In a year that they told us, going back into last season, they weren't trying to, or expecting to, compete. Did the cash they owe Kovalchuk surprise them in the last couple days?
 

Sleeping Dog

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I think after the big bonus payment in mid December, the Kings will move him. No one wants to swallow that thing right now.
Do the Kings have to wait until Dec to pay his bonus? Can they pay it now and retain 50% of his remaining contract Nd move him now? Or do they have to wait until Dec.?
 

Choralone

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Do the Kings have to wait until Dec to pay his bonus? Can they pay it now and retain 50% of his remaining contract Nd move him now? Or do they have to wait until Dec.?

Interesting thought - it's only 30 days and the same calendar year, and Kovalchuk would benefit - but I have no idea if it's allowable...
 

SettlementRichie10

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I guess Blake should have hired Marc Crawford as his first coaching hire. And also acquire an incompetent goaltender who is injury prone and immediately sign him to an extension before he appears in a game.

People criticized Lombardi for those moves at the time just as much as people are criticizing Blake now.

I don’t understand why everyone needs to straw man Lombardi’s past to defend Blake. Lombardi is not our GM anymore. Blake is. Are we going to criticize Mcnall for whatever ripple effect his decisions had? Why not go all the way back to Cooke? This is a ridiculous slippery slope regurgitated by people who are incapable of defending Blake on his own merit.
 

Ziggy Stardust

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People criticized Lombardi for those moves at the time just as much as people are criticizing Blake now.

I don’t understand why everyone needs to straw man Lombardi’s past to defend Blake. Lombardi is not our GM anymore. Blake is. Are we going to criticize Mcnall for whatever ripple effect his decisions had? Why not go all the way back to Cooke? This is a ridiculous slippery slope regurgitated by people who are incapable of defending Blake on his own merit.

Because people keep bringing up Lombardi as if he was was flawless, forgetting all of the mistakes made that put the team in this mess in the first place. And let’s not forget how his first three years were also a disaster, which is being glossed over.

It would be nice if the new management started with a clean canvas, but they didn’t. They started with absolutely nothing in the pipeline (among the worst in the league) and now have among the best in the league. Just like Lombardi after his first couple of seasons, I’m willing to give this management team a few more seasons before I decide how stupid and inept they are.

I guess some folk don’t realize the double standards and double speak that’s on display when they trash the current state of the team and forget why they’re in this mess in the first place.
 

HeadInjury

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I continue to think that the front office post-DL is doing a great job.

Phanuef for Gaborik was trading one disaster for another.

Signing Kovy was a stab at helping the offense without giving up assets. They took a shot. It was a failure. But we aren't capped out so it doesn't matter.

I give a pass on elevating Stevens as he had been promised the position and Blake didn't want to renege on it as his first move as GM.

Drafting has been simply top notch. College signings have been top notch.

Goaltending situation is stable long term.

We have traded zero assets looking for a short-term solution.

So embrace the short term suck. We just will end up with another top-5 pick in the next draft.
 
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